You letting the BLF members know that Gearbest.com is trying to censor a member of the forum, to a delete a thread with over 90 replies on it, showing you real proof, making me a troll?
So it’s totally fine that a company like Gearbest.com can dictate what is on this forum and what should be deleted? Yea, I’m a real troll. And GB is the good guys, just trying making a buck or two. And you did see the other ticket, there they pay for good reviews on different review sites. Thats also ok with you all? A good company selling good products, don’t need to pay people to write good reviews for them. But heck, I’m just a troll, so GB must do everything right.
Good for them. Then they can continue censoring this forum, and creating fake positive reviews for all future.
Yup, I would have done the same thing not taking the money, but in the thread he is getting too defensive. It is what it is, thanks for the heads up, the truth requires no defense.
He is only being defensive in response to the attacks he has had in this thread, he posts that he received an item with a dangerous fault and in short order is called a liar, told to just accept the situation and forget it, accused of making the whole thing up and more but you get the drift (or you should), then when he defends himself, which he should not have to do, he is accused of being a troll, way to go, what a nice friendly place to warn others about faulty items and shonky practices.
Note to self, keep my mouth well and truly shut if I get treated like this by a trader, Chinese or other.
Sooo, If I get this straight, in your original post, Top ‘o’ the page, you say you can’t trust these power banks to sell to “my customers”
NOW, you claim to just be an average Joe who supposedly blew $3000 on equipment without ever registering to be a “Legitimate” business, so this makes you by default an Under the Table “Dealer”.
So, now you blame the seller of a product they did not produce and go around threatening them and using BLF links as a Tool?
Who’s the Tool now?
You never made a website, didn’t do proper research as to the many facets of running a legitimate business and now GearBest is the bad guy because they wanted to refund ALL your money?
You could have deleted the insidious post and then when they did take care of you, followed up with a new intelligent post.
Or, if they screwed you, again you could have followed up with a new intelligent post.
But that thinking apparently is too far up the scale for you to realize.
Please dont delete your thread - it serves to warn others.
Also you are a business man now if you are selling for profit. So solve this like a business, if GB can offer you credit, or reship, or discount of defective that is a path to take.
I have not come so long in the process that I’m selling much, just listed a few item on a page like Ebay. First I had to buy the stuff I wanted to sell, not much, but have a stock of 10pcs + for the items I wanted to sell.
Since I have ordered from several places, I used slow freight on most of the items, and because of that many of my items can be weeks away. So had no plan to start selling in large scale before I had it all at home.
BUT, the power banks was one of the things I had plans to sell yes. So I don’t lie when I say it is a total loss for me, since I of course will not sell them now. So then I sit with 10 Xiaomi style power bank + 1 broken. Paid $66 for it, but no use for it because of the issue with the first one.
I was planning to first see if there was a marked for my items here in Norway. I think it is, if not, my loss. And there is no “under the table dealer” in Norway. If I should start to sell them on a website, or like a real online store, or something, it’s strict rules about how much you can earn, before you have to make a real company etc.
So the plan was to use a site like the similar to ebay, to list some of my stuff, see if I get any response. Testing every thing I would have sold, so I know it working ok. Testing every battery etc.
Thats was my plan, and maybe will be my plan, but still, lots of stuff on its way. So I’m waiting, testing what I have etc.
But still, is this about me and my possible business plan, or the fact that Gearbest.com tried to censor me and dictate what BLF members should read or not??? It’s seems like you forget that. Can we take the discussion about the power bank, company etc in the other thread, and hold focus in this thread?
So sellers is not responsible for the product they sell? Lots of people in this thread has told me that I would have been responsible if I had sold broken/crap items. But you say that I would not be responsible, just the people that make it.
Thats good news. Then I can sell the rest of the item that I had the issue with, for it’s not my responsible. Indeed good news, since all I have got is crap according to other members here, so then I can sell my crap without any blame at all
I am just saying that he should not be so defensive here for this issue. I really appreciate a post where something potentially dangerous is pointed out, and then I can make my own decisions on if I should risk it.
There is something to be said about being too defensive, it is almost like he is hurt because a community here did not instantly rally on his side. I for one will lend all sympathy to someone that got screwed by something like a bad product or bad vendor, but how do I objectively define who did the screwing?
I think the technique he used is called forced teaming, he seemed to offer the BLF a choice to stand with him, or by default be against him. I am not happy with that, and will automatically default to against someone that brings that choice to me….
Plenty of people have rallied others to go up the proverbial mountain, only to later find out they were simply used to carry the persons baggage who started the rally, to the top of the mountain. This does not help them.
If everything happened as he stated, lay out the facts and know at night that you have nothing to defend. The truth is your noumenon, sleep well knowing it, even if others do not.
I think you should stop bashing him guys. Even if we know the dirty tactics of suppliers, we still buy from them and risk our money anyway even though there is a chance we get bad products.
@op, the report on the bribe is enough, no need to argue with these guys. They will still buy from them even with this report. This will mostly affect only new buyers who will venture to cheap shopping.
One tip on starting an import business, go directly to the suppliers and not these drop shipper companies.
myhken… I appreciate the info you posted and have no issues with you posting a thread before/at the same time a complaint was sent to GB. I also believe that they should adjust to international customers/standards instead of us adjusting to them (but one can only dream). You are however, a bit SENSITIVE and on the attack. GB pissed you off and now, members here are pissing you off. Relax man… seriously, stress sucks…
FYI, anything I sell to others, I buy and test before buying more. I also buy more if I have to replace anything.
Yup ^ Both sides are kind of “at fault” here, many would have reacted more than myken did to some of the comments that do seem like attacks…but he is way over sensitive and putting just too much info in here too to random people on the internet…
Really myhken, just stick to your guns, see how it turns out, then come back and tell us the result. Yes they are responsible if they sell you crap, even if you “should have known”, I don’t really agree with people purposefully ordering stuff knowing it is bad and asking for a refund, but on the other side of the coin NOTHING ELSE is making these sellers responsible in any manner for selling all the falsely labeled/counterfeit/innaccurate stuff to uneducated unsuspecting people who do swallow it once they get it and dont know its bad/counterfeit/wrong item, so forcing them to refund is the only “just deserts” of sorts to discourage/make this practice unprofitable. And yes maybe you were a little gullible …again a bit of both sides is true. So learn for next time, and make em refund you or go to paypal with your images of the fried charger.
Perfectly sums up my thoughts. I’m sure SB isn’t going to delete the thread at the request of Gearbest, so it’s not even worth being a part of the discussion.
You spent €3000 in products, buying some from other vendors Aliexpress etc. So you have experienced of buying rubbish.
You would have my respect if you open it up and test what the fault is and report back, you could tell us GB asked you to delete the thread in exchange for a refund. You politely declined and filed a PP dispute and leave the thread open for others but why the massive defamation.
I don’t expect a china company to care about laws that do not apply to them. I do expect them to ask for this thread to be deleted, and it would be wrong to do so if the product is faulty and you’ve proved it.
You can just go back to buying from Aliexpress if you think you have better protection.
