Not by my economic standards. Everybody draws the line differently. For me it's $50. Anything over that is not budget but a lot (most here) put it at $10 or less. Also, to me, budget can also be relative. Solarforce is only budget when compared to Surefire, for example but it is usually the most expensive host.
For me they are semi budget lights. There are budget lights and not budget lights, semi budget is in between which I tend to like the most for quality/price balance.
As always splendid pics and review Foy. You pimp them SF up they should at least release a model with your name on it.
the l2"x" internal name is the "l2foy"... substitute the "x" for what ever l2 model you want... forgot the l2x (i had to edit this one before i posted it) is an actual model, maybe foy actually designed the l2x instead of SF trying to decide for him? another unknown conspiracy in the BLF database...
im still waiting for a SFSkylineFoy review... unless i missed it? is this budget light or bankruptcy light forum?
foy, if i could buy what you say, my daughter would have no clothes
The M6 is well regulated and the output remains exactly the same with one or two batteries. I put side by side pictures in the review of 2 x 18650 and 1 x 18650. No difference at all.
The M8 and M6 tubes are exactly the same. I used the tube from my M8 for the pictures of the M6 with two batteries.
Can't remember if I reviewed the Skyline I or not. Have to go look. Interesting that the Skyline II is not on solarforce-sales site now. It is still available from lighthound so, kinda wierd. The Skyline II is the only Solarforce light I don't have! I know, it's a sickness. I'm currently trying to cure it by purchasing lights from other manufacturers - like that triple T6 group buy from China via Australia, or whatever it is . . .
Wow....you are buying so many flashlights. But no problem, do list out your impressions and post them here! (anything is useful no problem). :)
Even by CPF standards by most, M8 is not budget. They are somewhat good value though.
But the problem is that, Solarforce drivers have visible PWM, and a lot of people would give huge negative points due to that. Even the guys here at BLF who are more technically forgiving would not let go of that for a premium light. Eg, Dereelight, Balder, Crelant are not really expensive lights, but they do not have visible PWM.
I could be wrong though.....Foy, do the M6, M8 have PWM? Wave your fingers quickly in front of the light. Well at least my Solarforce drop-ins have it.
I was just getting ready to state how sexy I thought that light was. Solarforce needs to get with the program on making their lights up to performance specs with companies like Olight. It's a shame a light that looks that good is weak on the shiny side of things.
old - .67 with 2 x Solarforce 2400 batteries
2100 - No PWM that I can see on the M8 or the M6.
So, the M6 and M8 just need to be driven a little harder. It’s too bad because they both fall short of true greatness by just a little. Even if they had driven the M6 to just 2 amps instead of just 1.37?
My internet is down so I’m using 4G on my Droid. The connection is fast but typing on this guy is a challenge for big fingers.
Foy
The M6 (without extension) is one of the best looking lights IMHO. Combine low output with difficulty modding, I am afraid it is off of this flashaholics Christmas list.
Not any, just the ones driven much harder than M6. I bet Solarforce with emitter driven at 2A (instead of a little bit over 1A) would outthrow any XM-L equipped P60...
That's pretty much what I was trying to say. At this price, it should do what it looks like it can do and perhaps I should amend; any XM-L P60 that I have can do better than this. Of course an XM-L driven at half an amp can't do as well. (must remember the broader audience)