Review: Manker U11. Built in charger, compact 18650 Eswitch Light. 3.6A on Turbo, Beamshots added.

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Thinking between 1C or 2B tint, not a big fan of warm tints. Did you replace the stock MPCB with a copper MPCB?

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2B is my favorite cool white… I just used the stock board and reflowed the new one on it. You may have to thin a noctigon down as the stock board is thinner than a noctigon. A 20mm Noctigon will need some filing on the edges, but a 16mm should fit the screw holes already there. Easiest way is to just use the stock board….

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Manker U11 standby current (parasitic drain): measured 0,2µA! This is practically zero. It will drain an 18650 in 2000 years, theoretically. Even better than Zebralight (4µA).

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Do you know how much current it drains when using the blue beacon feature in the on/off button?

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Manker U11 standby current (parasitic drain): measured 0,2µA! This is practically zero. It will drain an 18650 in 2000 years, theoretically. Even better than Zebralight (4µA).

And if that is still too much, you can lock it out by loosening the tailcap 1/2 turn… Silly

How did you measure this? I tried with a Fluke multimeter and the uA setting, but did not get a reading….

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Excuse my ignorance, but I’m trying to figure out the UI. With all the configuration, is there any way to get less than 5 modes?

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Excuse my ignorance, but I’m trying to figure out the UI. With all the configuration, is there any way to get less than 5 modes?

No, five regular modes is it, plus the hidden blinky menus. TK has spoiled us… Lol

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Well in that case….. :_(

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Its really not that bad the UI since a quick click gets you to Moonlight mode and a long click gets you to the last saved mode. my complaint is that sometimes I click too fast to change modes and go to the blinkies. |(

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pilotdog68 wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, but I’m trying to figure out the UI. With all the configuration, is there any way to get less than 5 modes?

I’m not usually a fan of single button lights, but this one actually works well, a quick press goes to the next level, it’s fast and effective.

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It’s not the single button, I just don’t like that many modes.

Has anyone been able to access the driver?

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It’s not the single button, I just don’t like that many modes.

Has anyone been able to access the driver?

The point I was making is that although there are many modes, it’s quick to use. And it has direct access to moonlight from off.

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The light seems to be accessible, IF you can get the switch out. Thing is, there is a charging circuit in there too. It may be a lot of work to just drop a couple of modes.

Moonlight and one other mode of your selection are available from off…

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Just received mine today. My first impressions are pretty good, and I was skeptical. I’ve got seven Zebralights and it seems like Manker is trying to imitate them in a lot of ways. Overall, they’ve done a very good job. This is a solid light. Machining and finish are great. Pocket clip is passable but leaves plenty of room for improvement. The switch cover is rotated ever-so-slightly so the Manker logo is a crooked by a couple of degrees, which isn’t a big deal but will bother me a bit. The UI is a bit confusing at first but I’m getting it. By biggest gripe so far, and its not surprising, is the cool white tint. Luckily that seems like a pretty straight-forward thing to fix.

Those are my 2-minute first impressions. Overall, a really nice light for a good price.

EDIT: I lined it up with some of my other “smallish” 1×18650 lights for a size comparison

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LOL! less than 24 hours of getting mine, I already replaced the Led for a XP-L HI V3 1C, now the hotspot is about half the size of the original which was about the same size as the hotspot of the SC600, and now looks way brighter, I don’t know why they decided not to go with the XP-L Hi like the T01 since the HI version looks like a better choice, at least to me.

BTW that AS5 looking thermal grease it originally came with sucks! it is very very thin, so I cleaned the surface with alcohol and Q-tips and used real Artic Silver 5 under the original MPCB, now the light gets hot a lot faster which means better heat transfer to the body.

The switch seems very hard to get out, so I decided not to try and disassemble any further, the MPCB seems to not have direct thermal path and is made out of aluminum, I might sand down a Noctigon later on but for now I used the same MPCB.

So far changing the led is a piece of cake on this light, I suggest trying the XP-L HI.

I like it 8)

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Hey Emarkd, How does the U11 compare to the MH20? UI, beam profile, hotspot etc.

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I don’t know why they decided not to go with the XP-L Hi

Presumably they thought most people would prefer the XPL. I do, for what that is worth.

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Hey Emarkd, How does the U11 compare to the MH20? UI, beam profile, hotspot etc.

The MH20 is SMO, so the hotspot is more defined and seems slightly smaller. The Manker has much brighter spill and a nice corona that blends them together. Theyre both too cool of a tint for me, but the Manker is easy to mod and the MH20 is available in nw now, so thats a minor issue. For edc use, I give the edge to the Manker but its close.

For UI, I really haven’t figured the Manker out yet. The normal mode is simple enough but I keep tripping the strobe while just trying to change modes, and that’s not fun. But the mh20 took me a while to get used to, too. That two-stage switch is funky, but I kinda like it now. Having direct access to moonlight and turbo at any time, without relying on mode memory, is a big plus for me. Then again the programmability of the Manker gives it a lot more flexibility. So idk, I’m calling the UI a wash at this point. Both have strengths and shortcomings. I think I’d still take Zebralights UI over either of them.

You didn’t ask, but a HUGE deal for me is the form factor. The shape of the Mankers head makes it much more comfortable to carry. That alone is enough to tip the scales in its favor.

So taken all together I’d personally have no trouble declaring the Manker an all-around better light than the MH20.

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Thanks for your point of view Emarkd Beer

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Yes, this is what I like as well, other peoples views. If I gush about a light, I mean it, I really like it. Someone else picks up the same light and hates it, neither of us are wrong…

As far a the form factor, the front is round, but it does slim up to an oblong profile right behind the bezel. It does sit very well in the pocket and hand for its size. I like this light a lot, and the ONLY things I found that were negative were the sharp edges in the clip groove and the original clip being not straight, neither of which would prevent me from buying another…

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I like it too, and the turbo 2 mode is very well regulated which for my purposes – cross country running – is a big bonus.

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ReManG wrote:
light-wolff wrote:
Manker U11 standby current (parasitic drain): measured 0,2µA! This is practically zero. It will drain an 18650 in 2000 years, theoretically. Even better than Zebralight (4µA).


How did you measure this? I tried with a Fluke multimeter and the uA setting, but did not get a reading….

My 22 year old MetraHit 18 has 10nA resolution.

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Do you know how much current it drains when using the blue beacon feature in the on/off button?

No, didn’t measure. And now can’t measure because I sold it already.
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I decided to remove the clip on mine, to remove it without bending the clip or causing any scratches on the HA3 finish I used a shoelace to slide it under the clip right next to the base where it attaches to the flashlight, then wrap the shoelace to your index finger and pull straight out, grab the rest of the clip with your other fingers as you pull it straight out so it doesn’t move to the sides and scratch the finish.

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The MH20 is SMO, so the hotspot is more defined and seems slightly smaller. The Manker has much brighter spill and a nice corona that blends them together. Theyre both too cool of a tint for me, but the Manker is easy to mod and the MH20 is available in nw now, so thats a minor issue. For edc use, I give the edge to the Manker but its close.

For UI, I really haven’t figured the Manker out yet. The normal mode is simple enough but I keep tripping the strobe while just trying to change modes, and that’s not fun. But the mh20 took me a while to get used to, too. That two-stage switch is funky, but I kinda like it now. Having direct access to moonlight and turbo at any time, without relying on mode memory, is a big plus for me. Then again the programmability of the Manker gives it a lot more flexibility. So idk, I’m calling the UI a wash at this point. Both have strengths and shortcomings. I think I’d still take Zebralights UI over either of them.

You didn’t ask, but a HUGE deal for me is the form factor. The shape of the Mankers head makes it much more comfortable to carry. That alone is enough to tip the scales in its favor.

So taken all together I’d personally have no trouble declaring the Manker an all-around better light than the MH20.

thank you for this. been hoping someone could compare u11 to mh20.
id also like to change xpl to xpl hi, the head can be easily removed right?

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thank you for this. been hoping someone could compare u11 to mh20. id also like to change xpl to xpl hi, the head can be easily removed right?

Welcome. If you mean the Manker, then yeah the bezel retaining ring just threads out. If you mean the Nitecore I would imagine so but I haven’t tried. I can get back to you on that if you need me to.

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pilotdog68 wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, but I'm trying to figure out the UI. With all the configuration, is there any way to get less than 5 modes?
No, five regular modes is it, plus the hidden blinky menus. TK has spoiled us... Lol

More like ruined us. Nothing is close to what she can cook up

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ReManG wrote:
Direct drive Turbo is also 3.6+ amps, so you would only benefit from that level if you had turbo set to another level.
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The hidden blinky modes here are the same as above for the first three, but then adds a Beacon mode (flash once per second, full power) a “direct current TURBO”, a battery check (four blinks full, 25% per blink) then onto the set level modes for the low, medium, high, turbo in that order.

Could you please explain this a little more? How do you access the direct drive turbo mode? Do you have to go into programming mode by holding down the button for 10 seconds, then cycling to direct drive everytime?

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Yes, the Direct drive turbo as the manufacturer calls it, is the highest level on turbo mode selection. They also have it hidden in the “Pro” mode blinky section.

If you set turbo to level one or two, then you need more light than that, you would go to the direct current turbo. If you leave the turbo program set to level 3 (highest), it is the same (in brightness and amp draw) as the “direct current” hidden turbo.

The diagrams are clear on this in the book, I am not the best explain-er here, but hope this description helps…

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