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Can anyone tells me what happened to their website? Seems BLF have removed their contents from Commercial Seller's Spot!! The user name in BLF is " YouWantLED ".

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I suspect that YouWantLED removed the thread himself.   I am sure that Admin will let us know who it was that removed the thread.

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I wonder if anyone will reiceve their special offer BLF light?

Smells like scam to me

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 I hope the folks who order will get their lights. I myself wasn't trust the seller enough to send him $40 of my hard earn money.

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tim817 wrote:

 I hope the folks who order will get their lights. I myself wasn't trust the seller enough to send him $40 of my hard earn money.

And I wouldn't want him as a Trustee of any Investment Trust not even his own.

EDIT - Well at least his site is back up now.

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I hope the best for the purchasers.

I smelled something rotten, but couldn't put my finger on it.

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Hello,

 

We’d like to reassure member of BLF there is nothing suspicious or corrupt about our business or the offers we’ve made to BLF members.

 

For the record;

 

We were the subject of a malicious and harmful attack by 1 member of this forum inciting hatred and loss of confidence in our business.

 

This member chose to release personal and private information and release it through this forum for his own satisfaction

 

As well, coincidently at the same time our website was maliciously attacked and was therefore out of service until 1am (UTC +8)

 

We have absolutely no intention of causing losses to you people. We are merely trying to conduct a legitimate business whether that business is based in US, China, Himalayan Mountains, or Kathmandu. It makes no difference in this day and age.

 

We have contacted the Administrators of this forum with an official complaint against this sort of illegal malicious and harmful attack on people or businesses with the sole purpose of cause nothing but harm and loss.

 

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the lawsuit and settlement is public info, on a public website... nothing personal about it

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@ YouWantLED

I assume your last post was directed at me.   

1.  All I did was ask you legitimate questions.  Many BLF'er saw it all.   I trust they will now post their observations.

2.  You are the legal representative of your company.  I am legally entitled to provide links to any information in the public domain about you in order that people may assess it prior to buying.

3.  You deleted the thread or got Admin to.  

4.  I would not know how to attack a website.   But as you deleted one page of your site and then took down the rest of your site, for maintenance, it is clear it was all by your own hand.

5.  I am happy to post everything I did earlier so that you can point out to all BLF'ers what you claim was unfair or illegal.  

I trust that Admin has a back-up of the thread and can access it in full.  

Your above post is a total falsehood as regards what actually occurred as other will confirm.

PS - The glut of abusive PM's you sent me are on record.  And by the way you were wrong.  My parents were married.   Besides it they were not then that would be an accident of birth while I suspect you on the other hand are a totally self-made man.     

 

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Pulsar wrote:

the lawsuit and settlement is public info, on a public website... nothing personal about it

Yes Pulsar,

I do agree with you there.

However its how this information is then used to incite harm against a person/business is not legal.

I'm sure not one of you people would want to see all of your information sprawled out on a public forum.

I ask again, why does everyone use a "username" rather than your real identity?

I guarantee not 1 person here has something from their past they'd rather not share with the whole world.

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Pulsar wrote:

the lawsuit and settlement is public info, on a public website... nothing personal about it

+1

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YouWantLED wrote:

Pulsar wrote:

the lawsuit and settlement is public info, on a public website... nothing personal about it

Yes Pulsar,

I do agree with you there.

However its how this information is then used to incite harm against a person/business is not legal.

I'm sure not one of you people would want to see all of your information sprawled out on a public forum.

I ask again, why does everyone use a "username" rather than your real identity?

I guarantee not 1 person here has something from their past they'd rather not share with the whole world.

Another lie but concealed by your deletion of the thread.   Those who saw it will confirm that my wording was not malicious it was polite and said that if you could answer those concerns more would buy.

And, in all honesty in your case it is not just one thing in your past it is many.   Everywhere you tell a different story.   Do I need to list it all?   In one place you say you've lived in China many years, in another you say you were in Australia until recently.

For heavens sake, man, can't you see that if I or others mistrust you its because you rarely tell the truth.

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VFMaddict

In this public forum, I am asking you to reveal the sort of person you are, Give us your private information, so people can see the sort of charcter you are or have been.

It is only fair don't you think?

You have made an absolute mess of this forum for your own pleasure and kicks ... I'm really sure you have absolutely nothing better to do in your life but to sit there and judge others.

Well my friend its time to see what sort of person you are. We're all interested to see what's behind VFMaddict

Now put up or shut up!!

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YouWantLED wrote:

VFMaddict

In this public forum, I am asking you to reveal the sort of person you are, Give us your private information, so people can see the sort of charcter you are or have been.

It is only fair don't you think?

You have made an absolute mess of this forum for your own pleasure and kicks ... I'm really sure you have absolutely nothing better to do in your life but to sit there and judge others.

Well my friend its time to see what sort of person you are. We're all interested to see what's behind VFMaddict

Now put up or shut up!!

I have not the slightest intention of revealing my details to someone who several times on this forum has demonstrated a thuggish temper.

You forget also that I am not asking people to give me their money.  You are and therefore it is legitimate to query if you are a trustworthy individual.    I'm beginning to wonder if you have any idea how business works.

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Sir,

You have or never had any intention of ordering anything .. Thats your right and I respect it.

So what exactly is your gain in all this?

Why are you now all defensive about giving everyone your information? lets play on a level field shall we?

If I am fair game, then so should you be !!

if you truly believe that my information is public property, then yours should also be the same.

So you have no intention of giving me permission to your indentity? Well sir I don't recall giving you or anyone here permission to use my real name in this or any other forum or website.

 

You are a malicious and hateful person, you’re using carefully constructed wording to gain support for your little crusade.

 

Perhaps this is the reason your “previous” profession was in law. You have absolutely no regards for people’s right to any sort of privacy.

 

But yet you refuse to give us your identity

 

 

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I thought I should add the following.   I said it in the thread which you deleted so I will repeat it in a thread that you cannot delete.

If you are legitimate then the lights ordered by BLF'ers will arrive later this week (as you posted they would on 4th November).   If they arrive and are as described by you then nothing I have said could matter.   BLF'ers will report and others will flock to buy from you.   So Alfred why are you getting your thong in such a twist?

To me it appears possible that you are just worried that you may not get extra orders before someone gets one and can report.   Truly that's how it looks.

EDIT - I repeat that once you ask people for money you put your credentials up for scrutiny.   If I was asking for money I would expect the same.   But I am not.    You truly do not know how business works, do you.

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All I know is I will never support your business. When you first came here, in my mind, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. I felt people were being a little harsh on you for no reason. Yet despite this, time after time you have insulted any poster who questioned you even slightly.

I dont doubt you run a legitimate business but you obviously dont know how to handle yourself in a professional manner. Attacking the customer is NOT a good way to gain our trust. As a buyer of your products, we have every right to question who you are as a seller and business.

Many international businesses have not always been the most honest so you have to excuse our distrust.

Too bad it doesnt matter to me anymore as Id rather send my business elsewhere. Im sure im not the only person who feels this way

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You have made an absolute mockery of me, my business, and this forum

 

You’ve turned this into your own little sicko game by attacking me personally. But yet you’re too afraid to reveal yourself

 

You come across as this little boy who has no friends and sat in the garden burning ants with his magnifying glass. You are an attention seeker because you’re a lonely individual

 

How far from the truth is that?

 

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YouWantLED wrote:

 You come across as this little boy who has no friends and sat in the garden burning ants with his magnifying glass. You are an attention seeker because you’re a lonely individual

Its comments like these that inspire soooo much confidence in your business......

 

 

To future dealers hoping to make a name on BLF, this is NOT how you get customers

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Dsoto87

You feel I am in the wrong?

I have been conducting my business professionally with all people that have emailed me and/or ordered products. I have tried to bring a good deal to you guys, but now I am being personally attacked

How can you say that I have insulted anyone without just cause?

You see you for one now are a lost customer due to the actions of 1 individual who uses personal information to discredit people and drive business away.

He has set out and made it his mission to destroy me personally. But yet refuses to reveal himself

 

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I feel you are wrong. One of the first things you ever did on this forum was lose your temper and withdraw your offer on a light. You were a brand new vendor and people were just asking questions. I think your best bet would be to let this go but I have a feeling that it will not go that way. You may have the most legitimate buisness in the world, I have no reason to suspect otherwise but you are making people dislike you. You cant sell any flashlights like that.

Piers said " ....but who wants enough light, when you have the option for far too much "

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YouWantLED wrote:
I ask again, why does everyone use a "username" rather than your real identity?
No need to drag every member (who uses a username) of this forum into the fray.  Nobody is on trial here.

Time wounds all heels, and time heals all wounds.

I want more time to see how this fuster-cluck plays.

Then, I might be interested in a purchase.

 

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YouWantLED wrote:

You have made an absolute mockery of me, my business, and this forum

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No, Alfred, never let it be said that I claim credit for other people's work.   On all three scores the credit is all yours.

I say again - Why are you getting your thong in a twist if you are legit and the orders will arrive as described?

Let's both put a hold on this until folks get some lights from you to report on.  Fair enough?   

Surely your business is not so financially brittle that it will break if you have to wait an extra 10 days for some extra orders from BLF’ers? 

Now go and have a cup of tea and calm down or you are likely to have a coronary given that temper of yours.  And I truly do mean that as good advice and nothing more.


 

 

 


 

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