BLF Kronos X6/X5 GB - Group Buy now closed.

Anyone else get a metal washer in their tailcap? I got all 3 of my sets now (2 SS/Cu, 1 alum), and out of 6 lights only the one alum X6 has a metal washer - good in that the tailcap brightness is much lower. The others are a white plastic type (maybe delrin?) that apparently work well in letting more light get to the cap.

The code is open source and it’s likely that rich at MtnE will probably have them at some point. The A6 driver is sold separately already so this probably will be as well.

It seems like more people have been “on edge” lately. I’m not sure why, but I suspect it’s a combination of several things. In particular, BLF’s overall growth and its gradual shift toward being more of a market and proportionally less of a hacker hangout. I think. And more people means more friction.

I’m not making excuses for it, just trying to describe what I think I’ve seen happening. It bothers me too, but I don’t really know what to think of it since it’s a complex change with many tradeoffs. We get more cool stuff and more cool people, but we also get more trolls and more drama. And some of the drama has a chilling effect, as seen in the disclaimers well-meaning people include in their posts.

I don’t know how to make things better, but I feel like it’d probably help to add more cowbell. Er, I mean, more Foy. Foybell? More lighthearted reminders that this is a playground. I could ask people to behave, to follow good netiquette, but … who am I kidding? Humans haven’t changed much for thousands of years.

Regardless, individual efforts to swim upstream, to be nicer than the average bear, are greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work. :slight_smile:

Lady Liberty, verdigris belies not the beauty of your face.

Or, Lady Liberty, what’s that green crap all over your face?

I guess it’s a perspective thing….

*big sigh* … They seriously put a metal washer in the tail instead of the white plastic washer? :frowning:

I hope that was a fluke. I also hope Neal has some spares to send out in cases like this.

When you cherry pick just part of what i said, and i read just that, I sort of get why Bugsy gets upset. I don’t mean that I’m upset that you cherry picked some words of mine, I mean I see where Bugsy and others feel like it’s a darned if you do, darned if you don’t situation.

I sincerely hope any of what I said is seen more like an SITREP and not a COMPLAINT.

And, yes, Foy is missed. Others too.

You completely lost me on that one, Dale! :smiley: :bigsmile: :slight_smile: :smiley: :bigsmile: :slight_smile:

People need to be more grateful, calling out no one in particular. These are by far the best flashlights for the money I have ever purchased. Even with a minor defect or two, these are still a heck of a deal and worth many times the price paid. Nitpicking on thease minor flaws is very discouraging to all the people involved in making this group buy happen.

Dented box corner, small scratches, mismatched serial numbers, why care about any of these pety things. This is one hell of a light for the money.

Oh yeah, I have asked this before but didn seem to receive an answer. Did he give up the hobby or has he passed?

It’s the X6 tube that fits.

Same for me. I had one metal washer in my Al X6. It does seem to make it a little more faint than with the white plastic.

Allrighty then,
I see your point.

Here’s some more fancy words for Y’all, no charge.
http://wordables.com/words-for-colors/

I have a Big cat named Jasper and he looks nothing like this color, Who Knew?
Poor Cat.

Now then, back to the subject of Flashlights, When can I expect an Incarnadine BLF X5?
LOL
Now back to our regular slather of venom.

Ahhh, ok, yes - it's a metal one, but only in 1 of 6 lights, but I had no clue - maybe the alum X6 was supposed to have one.

Soooo, can I politely, possibly ask Neal for a plastic replacement? Innocent I could check thru my parts bins first, might have something around to fit or trim to fit.

Most of the stuff you guys discuss in that thread goes a mile over my head. :stuck_out_tongue:

Looks like I’m going to need to find time to learn about it though, because that’s a crapload of LEDs I need to use. :smiley: Thanks btw.

Oh. It was a long post and I didn’t want to quote the whole thing so I only quoted the beginning. Perhaps “my two cent’s worth after reading the last twenty or so pages” would have been a more appropriate snippet.

Symptom of people being more “on edge” than usual. Like how a light tap usually goes unnoticed but the same tap can hurt if it hits something which is already sore. Common elbow-bumping seems to get bigger responses lately.

Elbow pads (or flameproof pants) and smiles may be of use. :slight_smile:

the offcenter bore is a production icon of manker its a feature not a fault :wink:

Cone - Your post is/was NOT viewed as a complaint at all.

Jack - I think you are right. LOL

Southland - Well put. Thank you!

Tom - I am pretty sure one of my samples had had a metal washer but I didn't think anything of it because it functioned fine.

Sorry, I mean no offense but this and others like it are the very type of post I find nonproductive.

I have a strong indication you know what you’re talking about, but that you’re also shooting from the hip here. I can back up my claims.

Silicone grease is a poor choice for silicone o-rings
see here

also,

See Under O-Ring Compatibility

also,
look for Silicone

I don’t know what material is used for o-rings, I don’t know if natural rubber is used anywhere, but if it is, a petroleum-based grease is not recommended. If you’d like to use silicone grease on your silicone o-rings, more power to you, but you can expect them to swell and foul your action as well as snap and lose your water seal.

I didn’t mean to come up head to head with you, just figured you were shooting from the hip. If you’d take a few minutes to do some Google Fu, I am confident you will be reminded. Its an easy thing to flip flop. The CPF Comprehensive Lube thread is a unified resource great for the purpose of flashlight thread and o-ring lubrication, but there are plenty of other sources of information backing up my claims regarding compatible lube for the kind of material. Don’t take my word for it, see for yourself. But please lets not just naysay each other, kind of pointless.

Fwiw I think there is probably a difference in application between divers needing to seal out water under great pressures and flashaholics needing to seal out water of no or marginal pressure and dust AND have decent lubrication for threaded action. Often, flashaholics will simply remove the o-ring completely, as their need for water seal is minimal but their desire for smooth action is great. Sounds like for diving appliations what you want is a damn tight seal, and in that application, silicone lube works for the purpose. For flashlight o-rings, you won’t want that kind of seal.

Also, galling is simply metals in contact siezing, and can be, is often caused by galvonic corrosion, which is itself caused by a metal, like Fe or Stainless Steel from one batch, corroding in preferential to another, maybe like Cu, or even Stainless Steel with slightly different amounts of its constituents from another batch, when they are in electrical contact, like in a flashlight tube, in the presence of a conducting solution, say, lube, even if a vanishingly small amount.

After checking the tracking about a thousand times… Yay!

These lights are absolutely incredible, worth every penny and more. My youngest kid thinks the little one is for him, as others have said these lights are kid magnets!

Great job guys, you knocked it out of the park.

P.S. The etching for “KRONOS” looks amazing, I like the font too, how the N dips a little below etc. Great little details to enjoy. Thanks again!