BLF Kronos X6/X5 GB - Group Buy now closed.

7118 posts / 0 new
Last post
Muto
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 13 min ago
Joined: 09/04/2012 - 16:42
Posts: 2029
Location: Southeast, PA
djozz wrote:

I have the yellow spot in my copper X5, and the reflector is stuck.

1) I’m not worried

2) I’m not going to return the light or complain

3) The emitter is fine (checked by projecting the emitter image with a projection lens), and in fact I think the yellow spot is the result of the reflector being really really good. Fine-tuning the reflector height is something I could try, but I quite dig the yellow center of the hotspot.

4) If I want that, I’m going to get the reflector out, I’ll figure a way (I always do)

This reminds me of an issue on another flashlight.
About a year ago I wanted to see which of my 4 HD-2010 throwers worked the best. The brands are Fandyfire, Trustfire and Tangsfire. All of them are the older good batches with the direct drive East-092 driver, of these the Fandy had the worst indoor 5 foot white wall beam. Big ass donut hole. So I spent probably 2 yours trying different centering rings, reflector height, lenses, etc. Got it a little better but not clean like the others.

Well wouldn’t you know that “bad one of the bunch” is my best 2010 thrower when you finally get around to using for what it was meant to be, an outside flashlight.
I went back to the original spacer with the even bigger donut and the throw got even better.

Also got a Conrui Big Head flashlight from a fellow BLF member that he had been modified. Upon arrival it had bad donut hole and a couple slight rings.
Thinking WTF, that guy doesn’t know what he’s doing. Then night came, THEN I saw that sucker was dialed in for what it was made for. He had it right.
Sometimes we have to accept the fact that not all inside beams are going to be pretty.

So, point here is, that little bit of yellow that a certain member is obsessing over, is not visible at any real distance, so no big deal.
It may be less visible with reflector tweaking or it could get worse. Even worse would be to get rid of it and only then discover that you lost output of got the dreaded “Rings of Saturn”

I have one Kronos X6 that has the yellow spot, I consider it the laser center:)
Not Touching it.

P.S. To get the reflector loose, try covering the top to keep inside surface protected and blast the rim with Computer Duster spray with the can turned upside down. The cold blast may help it come free.

HTH
Keith

After the Apocalypse there will be only 2 things left alive, Cockroaches and Keith Richards
..
Rockin’ In Bedrock, Twitch, Twitch!
..

emarkd
emarkd's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 days 11 hours ago
Joined: 04/14/2015 - 22:04
Posts: 1600
Location: Georgia, USA
Chicken Drumstick wrote:
bugsy36 wrote:

There are not enough SS or Cu lights to be feasible to do a run of short tubes….. The minimum order would be too many.

Not sure I can personally see the appeal either. Having a short tube on a large headed torch doesn’t make it any more portable or pocket friendly (less so, as more tendency to tip if you carry it upright). All you’ll get is massively worse total runtime, likely lower PEAK output (depending on config) and certainly pathetic max output runtime.

I would agree with this, with one added negative – balance. These dense lights are already kinda top-heavy in the hand. A shorty tube would probably make the thing feel like you’re holding a small bowling ball (with a little protrusion). I wouldn’t be interested in that.

A triple head, however, is another matter. I know there’s been some talk already and I hope it comes to fruition. What I’d really like is another copper “light engine” piece for my stainless light that’s cut for a triple. Just unscrew the reflectored light engine from the bezel and battery tube and swap in the triple engine.

Chicken Drumstick
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 3 months ago
Joined: 08/27/2012 - 05:00
Posts: 2387
Location: UK
emarkd wrote:
Chicken Drumstick wrote:
bugsy36 wrote:

There are not enough SS or Cu lights to be feasible to do a run of short tubes….. The minimum order would be too many.

Not sure I can personally see the appeal either. Having a short tube on a large headed torch doesn’t make it any more portable or pocket friendly (less so, as more tendency to tip if you carry it upright). All you’ll get is massively worse total runtime, likely lower PEAK output (depending on config) and certainly pathetic max output runtime.

I would agree with this, with one added negative – balance. These dense lights are already kinda top-heavy in the hand. A shorty tube would probably make the thing feel like you’re holding a small bowling ball (with a little protrusion). I wouldn’t be interested in that.

A triple head, however, is another matter. I know there’s been some talk already and I hope it comes to fruition. What I’d really like is another copper “light engine” piece for my stainless light that’s cut for a triple. Just unscrew the reflectored light engine from the bezel and battery tube and swap in the triple engine.


+1 to all those points.
fogcreature
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 5 months ago
Joined: 01/24/2016 - 09:34
Posts: 15
Location: SC

Just ordered my SS/cu set. Thanks to everyone involved that made these happen and for giving me the opportunity to join in a bit late. That won’t happen again after experiencing the A6 first hand. Now I refresh the special edition lights section everyday. Thanks again!!!

Joat
Offline
Last seen: 4 days 10 hours ago
Joined: 06/13/2013 - 23:43
Posts: 523
Location: Minnesota

How about an adapter ring to fit a A6 head onto a X5 body?

brightlights
Offline
Last seen: 47 min 58 sec ago
Joined: 06/04/2012 - 14:36
Posts: 45
Location: Oakland, Michigan

I got mine yesterday, and all the serial numbers lined up. These lights are so impressive, and the workmanship is crazy great. I really don’t know how the manufacturer can make any money on these. Anyway, I showed my wife these, and she of course does not support my flashlight obsession. After playing with, she said, Can I have one?! And of course I told her, “Go get your own! Ha!

will34
will34's picture
Offline
Last seen: 5 hours 20 min ago
Joined: 12/18/2012 - 00:12
Posts: 3616

These lights are awesome! The X5 throws like a beast…

Some close up shots:

jsmn4vu
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 4 months ago
Joined: 11/13/2015 - 08:39
Posts: 43
Location: South of Atlanta

Just noticed in a pop-up ad from Banggood something that looks exactly like the BLF Kronos X6/X5 for $199. Wondering if anyone knows if it’s just the result of something automated on their site, of if they’re actually available, and if they are, do they say KRONOS?

myhken
myhken's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 8 months ago
Joined: 07/03/2015 - 17:20
Posts: 549
Location: Norway

Muto wrote:

Sometimes we have to accept the fact that not all inside beams are going to be pretty.

So, point here is, that little bit of yellow that a certain member is obsessing over, is not visible at any real distance, so no big deal.
It may be less visible with reflector tweaking or it could get worse. Even worse would be to get rid of it and only then discover that you lost output of got the dreaded “Rings of Saturn”

I have one Kronos X6 that has the yellow spot, I consider it the laser center:)
Not Touching it.

P.S. To get the reflector loose, try covering the top to keep inside surface protected and blast the rim with Computer Duster spray with the can turned upside down. The cold blast may help it come free.

HTH
Keith

You are right, the only way to see the spot is inside on the wall or ceiling, outside it will have no impact. Will try the duster spray trick, but it’s not so important now that I know that I can live with the yellow spot. I’m not going to use this light just inside, I have so many other lights for that.

Sorry Bugsy36 for all my complaining… see others have the same issue, but they can live with it. But still something to take with you and the rest of the team for the next GB, to make sure the producer have better QC on each light. Can we agree on that?

Hope you can pull of a 3 or 4 led light, but then in a X6 or some else light with 18650 battery, so you actually can enjoy it for some time, and not just minutes before the 14500 battery is empty.

Kenneth Myhre

myhken
myhken's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 8 months ago
Joined: 07/03/2015 - 17:20
Posts: 549
Location: Norway
jsmn4vu wrote:
Just noticed in a pop-up ad from Banggood something that looks exactly like the BLF Kronos X6/X5 for $199. Wondering if anyone knows if it’s just the result of something automated on their site, of if they’re actually available, and if they are, do they say KRONOS?

It’s a placeholder for the light in the store. But you need a code to buy it. But they have to list it on the store so people with codes can buy it.

Kenneth Myhre

myhken
myhken's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 8 months ago
Joined: 07/03/2015 - 17:20
Posts: 549
Location: Norway

Will34: Really nice pictures.

Kenneth Myhre

DB Custom
DB Custom's picture
Offline
Last seen: 19 hours 29 min ago
Joined: 01/13/2013 - 22:28
Posts: 20314
Location: Heart of Texas

Reasonable assumptions can sometimes lead to unreasonable expectations.

I LOVE building triples and quads, really, I do! :bigsmile: But while we can reasonably assume much greater brightness and output, it’s not reasonable to assume that it’s a good thing to do. A good triple is going to pull 9-11A. Since we don’t have any 11,000mAh 18650’s, (well, you know) then it SHOULD be obvious it will take a light with a minimum of 3 parallel cells to supply power to a good triple. This means a big light. Most of us don’t want a big light. So we put up with the shortened run times from the little beasties. Wink

I really like how the SS acts as an insulator against the heat, protecting the cell from the truly incredible amounts of heat that can be produced in the pill. The SS/Cu X6 is a perfect candidate for a triple XP-L HI. I’m actually amazed at myself… my SS/Cu X6 is still virtually pristine! (This too, shall come to pass…) Wink

onetrickpony
onetrickpony's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 3 months ago
Joined: 03/17/2014 - 22:22
Posts: 388
Location: NH

I need to get some higher drain batteries, the laptop pull I’m running in the X6 isn’t cutting it, and neither is the efest red imr I’m using in the X5, I think I’m way under-driving them. They’re still very bright but I’m definitely missing out.

I should walk out to the car and get my meter but it’s snowing and it’s warm inside. What a horrible situation I find myself in.

bugsy36
bugsy36's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 months 4 days ago
Joined: 07/11/2014 - 18:15
Posts: 2475
Location: Florida USA

Run out there and back as quick as you can then turn oin your hand warmers. You will think it was worth it while everybody thinks your crazy. Wink

It's the simple things that we take for granted that cost us the most

Ευκαιρία λέει πιάσε με από το μέτωπο γιατί μόλις έχω περάσει δεν θα με πιάσειs

Melven
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 19 hours ago
Joined: 01/12/2011 - 12:59
Posts: 138
Location: Utah, USA

My SS/CU set are stuck in USPS Purgatory! According to the tracking information I should have received them yesterday, so I got prepared Wednesday evening and charged my cells so I would be ready to try them out as soon as I opened the package. Unfortunately USPS seems to have dropped the ball, the last entry on my tracking number is:

2016-01-30 09:09 ISC LOS ANGELES CA (USPS), Processed Through Sort Facility, Your item has been processed through our sort facility in ISC LOS ANGELES CA (USPS) at 9:09 am on January 30, 2016.

The USPS site said to expect delivery Feb 4th, but it seems my package got stuck / misplaced somewhere. USPS really does a poor job of tracking packages! I hope this is a temporary issue and my package will still arrive in the next few days! It is driving me nuts to see all the posts talking about the lights people have received and mine are still not here!

Waiting very impatiently,

Melven

pilotdog68
pilotdog68's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 05/30/2013 - 23:31
Posts: 6424
Location: Held against my will in IOWA, USA

Melven, sounds like it’s waiting to go through customs. The approx dates are rarely correct when customs is involved.

My Favorite Modded Lights: X6R, S8 , X2R , M6, SP03

Major Projects:  Illuminated Tailcap, TripleDown/TripleStack Driver

onetrickpony
onetrickpony's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 3 months ago
Joined: 03/17/2014 - 22:22
Posts: 388
Location: NH
bugsy36 wrote:

Run out there and back as quick as you can then turn oin your hand warmers. You will think it was worth it while everybody thinks your crazy. Wink

I’m sure I’ve been seen using flashlights in broad daylight. It’s too late for me to appear sane anyway, I’ll go get it Smile

Melven
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 19 hours ago
Joined: 01/12/2011 - 12:59
Posts: 138
Location: Utah, USA

I thought since it said processed through the sort facility that it had already done customs

JPM3
Offline
Last seen: 3 days 12 hours ago
Joined: 10/03/2015 - 14:50
Posts: 25
Location: United States

I know this isn’t going to help much Melvin, but I live in MA and I had 2 sets that were in NY last Friday according to tracking.

One set was delivered Monday, but the other set somehow was sent to CA, then back to NY and then up to MA and it was delivered Wednesday.

onetrickpony
onetrickpony's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 3 months ago
Joined: 03/17/2014 - 22:22
Posts: 388
Location: NH

I got my meter, but the stupid fuse is blown, must have happened at work…. So the question now is, Harbor Freight or Home Depot? I saw in the Home Depot deal alerts thread that somebody found a Klein auto-ranging meter on clearance, I wonder if I might get lucky.

Gunga
Gunga's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 hours 20 min ago
Joined: 11/28/2014 - 16:56
Posts: 1781
Location: Vancouver, Canada

I think a triple would be cool. I’m not looking for increased output. Just a nice flood in the same package.

onetrickpony
onetrickpony's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 3 months ago
Joined: 03/17/2014 - 22:22
Posts: 388
Location: NH
Gunga wrote:
I think a triple would be cool. I’m not looking for increased output. Just a nice flood in the same package.

You could just put some diffuser film or tape on the lens if you’re happy with the output. Or you could get an orange peel effect on the reflector with some spray polyurethane. I don’t know how that would work if allowed to get really hot though. I don’t know if replacement reflectors will be available…

Jeeze, might be less work to do a triple, haha. I bet the diffuser tape would work pretty well though.

saypat
saypat's picture
Offline
Last seen: 8 hours 5 min ago
Joined: 07/13/2011 - 20:32
Posts: 3471
Location: Calif

Gunga
Gunga's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 hours 20 min ago
Joined: 11/28/2014 - 16:56
Posts: 1781
Location: Vancouver, Canada
onetrickpony wrote:
Gunga wrote:
I think a triple would be cool. I’m not looking for increased output. Just a nice flood in the same package.

You could just put some diffuser film or tape on the lens if you’re happy with the output. Or you could get an orange peel effect on the reflector with some spray polyurethane. I don’t know how that would work if allowed to get really hot though. I don’t know if replacement reflectors will be available…

Jeeze, might be less work to do a triple, haha. I bet the diffuser tape would work pretty well though.

I guess that could work. It would just be nice to have a triple. Better flood beam and just “cool”.

jacktheclipper
jacktheclipper's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 40 min ago
Joined: 10/31/2010 - 21:18
Posts: 4855
Location: Florida , U.S.A.

DC-Fix .

Turning throwers into throwy flooders .

PM Boaz , he'll sell you what you need .

J-Dub74
J-Dub74's picture
Offline
Last seen: 5 months 2 weeks ago
Joined: 03/14/2015 - 17:17
Posts: 2231
Location: Michigan
ToyKeeper wrote:
hank wrote:
It’s also why it’d be useful for someone to keep a moderated list of known problems … Many of the little annoyances can be fixed at home, once identified and people contribute solutions.
Any volunteers? Anyone want to make a BLF Kronos X6/X5 troubleshooting thread / FAQ? Smile

This would be very helpful. It could be a dual purpose modding/troubleshooting thread.

Rufusbduck
Rufusbduck's picture
Offline
Last seen: 7 months 4 days ago
Joined: 04/04/2012 - 15:34
Posts: 10389
Location: Golden state

The problems that occur in flashlights are pretty standard. It would be helpful to have them listed but more important is getting to know how flashlights and drivers work since that basic knowledge can be generalized to diagnose most problems.

Three Tanna leaves to give him life, nine to give him movement. But what if he eats the whole bag?

Scott

chouster
Offline
Last seen: 8 hours 3 min ago
Joined: 02/20/2014 - 15:05
Posts: 686
Location: germany

@saypat

I like that! Does it only work with the tube reversed?

hank
hank's picture
Offline
Last seen: 11 hours 52 min ago
Joined: 09/04/2011 - 21:52
Posts: 8138
Location: Berkeley, California
Quote:
DB Custom … I worked this smooth 1/8” file shank into the metal clip of my X5 …

The picture you posted shows a copper KX5 — were you starting by hammering on a clip that came on the copper light?

So far, near as I can tell (not very well) it’s the clips on the aluminum KX5s that are too tightly bent; the earlier pictures of the copper light clips were consistently OK, unsquashed.

Just checking before I take out the hammer, since a followup reported breaking a clip by trying that.

Might be the clips on the copper vs. the aluminum lights are consistently differently made — too small a sample yet to know.

kbro
Offline
Last seen: 21 min ago
Joined: 03/28/2015 - 16:46
Posts: 25
hank wrote:
Quote:
DB Custom … I worked this smooth 1/8” file shank into the metal clip of my X5 …

The picture you posted shows a copper KX5 — were you starting by hammering on a clip that came on the copper light?

So far, near as I can tell (not very well) it’s the clips on the aluminum KX5s that are too tightly bent; the earlier pictures of the copper light clips were consistently OK, unsquashed.

Just checking before I take out the hammer, since a followup reported breaking a clip by trying that.

Might be the clips on the copper vs. the aluminum lights are consistently differently made — too small a sample yet to know.

Ah, I forgot that the clips on the Al X5 and the Cu X5 seemed to be different. Maybe that’s why mine (from an Al X5) broke and Dale’s didn’t.

Pages