Freeme Review: ON THE ROAD M3 CREE XM-L2 U2-1A/5C 16340 - incomplete

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Freeme Review: ON THE ROAD M3 CREE XM-L2 U2-1A/5C 16340 - incomplete

ON THE ROAD M3 CREE XM-L2 U2-1A/5C 16340

Sample was provided by GearBest.com for review purpose.

Overview:

Brand: On The Road

Model: M3

Price: $24.76 (1A) / $26.01(5C) | Group Buy Over HERE!

Emitter: CREE XM-L2 Cool White/ Warm White

Brightness: 920LM (manufacturer rated)

Mode: 8 Modes

Peak beam intensity: 4,200cd

Lens: Toughened Ultra-clear Glass Convex Lens with Anti-reflective Coating

Mode Arrangement: Ultra low, Low, Mid, High, Turbo / Strobe, Location Beacon, SOS

Mode Memory: Yes

Battery: 1x 16340/ CR123A

Net Weight: 39g

Size: 23mm (head), 23mm (tube) and length 70mm/ 0.91 x 0.91 x 2.76 inches 

Waterproof Standard: IPX-8 Standard Waterproof

 

First Impression:

OTR (On The Road) M3 sample arrived safely! Well protected by OTR's thick craft box and bubble padded white envelope.

I really like their inner box layout. Accessories are cleverly hidden away by divider, so that your main focus will be on the flashlight once you open up the cover. Divider also acts like a reinforcement and it will reduce the chance of being crush during shipping. Black neoprene carrying bag is fairly useful, if you afraid to get them scratch when you leave it inside your bag. It is also much more comfortable to leave them inside your jeans pocket since the cushion is soft and thick.

   

Complete package comes with OTR M3 flashlight, pouch, charger, US power cable, lanyard, 2x O-rings, 2x spare button,and instruction manual. OTR 16340 battery was suppose to be included, but it was shipped separately from this package to avoid delay.

 

This is probably what you would receive if you participate with our upcoming group buy.

 


OTR M3 only support 16340, RCR123A and CR123. 18350 will not fit the body tube.

 

Close up look: 

OTR M3 shell design looks strikingly similar to Olight Baton S10 (2013) at first glance. Undeniably, most people including me would regard M3 as a Clone flashlight. However, I am only going to focus solely on the performance and functionality of this flashlight in the review.

Body ratio with respect to the head and tail is very good and it is one of my favorite as well. That is probably why Olight has kept this classic flashlight design for quite a few years now. OTR has included some radiating fins, coupled with integrated pill design to improve on heat dissipation.

You will have a M3 badge on one side and On The Road logo on the other. Flashlight serial number and a big CE at the bottom of the tailcap.

 

You get a genuine CREE XM-L2 5C with a shallow orange peel reflector at the business end.

OTR M3 supports both protected 16340 and CR123. There is no spring at the driver end. Unprotected cell will require to raise it anode end (e.g use of magnet) to make contact. 

 

M3 uses a white button instead of conventional black, for its ON/OFF and mode selection. White button allows light from the red LED underneath to penetrate through. Button also bares OTR lettering on it.

Flashlight does come with a 20mm anti-reflect coated lens.

Stainless stell bezel has 6 notches to allow swift dismantle and servicing. Unlike odd number notches, you will not require special tool to take down the bezel.

 

2-way deep pocket clip. Not super high grade on close inspection, but sturdy enough for most of us I think.  

 

M3 has much thicker gold plated spring than Olight. Neodymium can be removed from the tailcap if not required.

Anodized threads

M3 color is close to new Niteye. To me, M3 is more of a dark bronze than titanium grey color.

 

Weight:

About 60g with battery and 42g without battery.

 

User Interface:

 

I have included a few more combinations that are not mentioned in the original UI diagram.

Interesting Features:

 

Since M3 has very closed dimensions as Olight Baton series, Olight S-series accessories (e.g traffic cone and diffuser cap) will also be compatible with OTR M3.

One of my favorite function for OTR M3 is the location beacon. It has the most usable flash frequency in my whole flashlight collection. The next closet thing I could think of would be Nitecore. Not sure why beacon mode is being left out by Olight.

Since M3's tailcap is magnetic.You could stick it to the body of a car for example, to alert on-coming traffic during road breakdown scenario. Or clip it to your belt to increase your visibility while commuting on the road with bicycle at night.

 

M3 low voltage indicator flashes to alert you to replace or recharge your battery when voltage is low. Indicator starts to blink at about 3.4V from our test.   

Performance: Tailcap Amperage Readings

1) Tailcap measurement:

Ultra low: 10mA
Low: 276mA
Medium: 600mA
High: 1.285A
Turbo: 2.28A

920lm did not happen as expected.

 

Parasitic drain: 7μA

 

Performance: Runtime

Battery is measured at 4.17V before test. Output value is recorded after 30sec from start. Low voltage indicator kick in around 18min mark for Turbo mode. Flashlight shutdown at 33min mark with output around 11%. Battery was measured at 3.48V and 3.41V, for Turbo and High mode respectively after shutdown. I suspect flashlight could have shutdown based on the ON time (to be confirm).

 

Since M3 specification mentioned about "Intelligent Temperature Regulated System" built-in. I have conducted a second test in 1min resolution for Turbo mode with fan OFF initially. Due to its size, you could see that M3 warmed up rapidly to over 60°C/ 140°F within 1.5min. Output dropped to 58% due to voltage sag and heat saturation. Output pretty much stabilized for the next 10mins, till fan was reactivated again. I did observe that there was a slight increased lumen output and heat for about 2min, before it started to run out of juice again.

 

Performance: Charger & Battery


On The Road UC3 charger accept both AC100-240V 50/60Hz and USB inputs. Charge LED indicator will turn from red to blue upon completion.

NOTE: On The Road UC3 charger will terminate slightly higher than usual at ~4.28V (almost 2% off) with my faster charger or desktop USB. Result is undesirable for our flashlight user standard. 
(alerted by member @flashmaster) 

Beam Profile: Tint


 

Beam Profile: Brightness Level

OTR M3 project from 2.7m away.

 

PWM (Pulse Wave Modulation)

PWM is present, you see some minor fluctuation in the light source but not really visible in real world.

 

M3 Disassembled:

Size Comparison:

Side by side comparison with Olight S1 (left), OTR M3 (center) and Olight S15 (right).

Side by side comparison with Olight S1 (extreme left), OTR M3 (2nd from the left), Olight S15 (second from the right) and MANKER U11 (extreme right).

 

What I Like About On The Road M3:

  • Coming soon

What Needs to Be Improved:

  • Coming soon

 

Conclusion:

Coming soon

 

Our Rating

Power: ★★★★✩

Easy of Mod: ★★★✩✩

Price: ★★★★★

Overall value: ★★★★★

 


OTR M3 Group Buy is on-going here >> http://budgetlightforum.com/node/46875.
Leave a reply if you are interested in getting one.


Edited by: sb56637 on 09/02/2017 - 12:11
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Man, I like that anodizing color…

Looking forward to the rest of the review…

When you shake the light side to side fast, can you see the PWM in the beam?

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nice review freeme!

find all available items in this list

i launched my new blog - all deals for members without MAP B$ Wink

find a short description about my idea here

 

if you want to buy a flashlight or battery for a better price: just send a mail - i will try to save you money!

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How did i miss this review!

Did you try the light with IMR cells? I can see the difference in performance when using Soshine 16430s and Fandyfire IMR cells (I know lol fandyfire).

That is about standard run time for a 16340 flashlight either way it will step down because of heat or power.

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Since it is not 920 claimed lumens, What is the actual lumens? N

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akoposilester wrote:
Since it is not 920 claimed lumens, What is the actual lumens? N

According to Chinese web site, 600lumens for 1A, about 480lumens for 5c.
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Nice review! Is that a DQG tiny AA next to the Olight S1?

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I measured standby drain at .007ma on the one I ordered… I like the UI as well, strobes are well hidden with the triple click.

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lots of good things written about this light. But something is weird. Our Forum knows ‘good.’ And if it is good we would be well over 100 orders by now? Strange. Still on the fence here, and on the list Smile

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Because of 16340/ CR123A batteries??

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Yea lots of people do not like 16340s they prefer 14500 or even 18650 i ran that pole must be 10-1 towards 14500 against the 16340s

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Considering the vendor is Gearbest, the 16340 battery size and it looks too good to be true, it is understandable… But not really when you consider the following.

Gearbest has given me no issues with any group buy, the D80, BLF 348 and even a dashcam I recently ordered, or the $25 version of this light with the battery and charger included. They have stepped up their process quite a bit from late last year…. Freeme seems to have great communication for his deals as well.

This is a stock light, so no worries there like the “custom” group buys. A couple of decent 16340’s will set you back no more than one top end 18650, so that should not be an issue…

I am down for three more, as I like small lights, and this one is a great build with great features, especially now that I actually have one, and can use it. It may not be your favorite light, but it will be one you use a lot…

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Nice review! what’s the real world lumen output on this? also is it a better deal to buy the one from gearbest for 24 dollars that comes with battery and charger or to get this one and buy battery and charger separately?

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I think it has less interest because everybody already owns olight Sxx lights already because gearbest sold them like hot cakes for cheap a while ago including the S15R,S1,S30 etc.. The S1 is just smaller.

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Their Olight sale prices at that time was a steal and I am glad that I have purchased all mentioned models. Unfortunately, such discounts will not be happening again soon for Olight.

The main selling point of OTR M3 is the price. Current S10 baton easily cost about $42 a piece, while our M3 group price is more affordable for majority at under $20. You will not need to worry about greenish cool white tint or waste time, energy and additional money to replace those undesirable emitters if you choose our rosy 5C.

Smaller does not equate to better. I personally prefer S10 or S15, where I can have a firmer grip of the flashlight with my medium size palm. 

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I think it has less interest because everybody already owns olight Sxx lights already because gearbest sold them like hot cakes for cheap a while ago including the S15R,S1,S30 etc.. The S1 is just smaller.
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olight s1 prices are still pretty good, I think banggood has the olight s1 for $26.97 with the coupon code (look for it on slickdeals by searching olight s1)

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freeme wrote:

Their Olight sale prices at that time was a steal and I am glad that I have purchased all mentioned models. Unfortunately, such discounts will not be happening again soon for Olight.


The main selling point of OTR M3 is the price. Current S10 baton easily cost about $42 a piece, while our M3 group price is more affordable for majority at under $20. You will not need to worry about greenish cool white tint or waste time, energy and additional money to replace those undesirable emitters if you choose our rosy 5C.


Smaller does not equate to better. I personally prefer S10 or S15, where I can have a firmer grip of the flashlight with my medium size palm. 


daninho wrote:
I think it has less interest because everybody already owns olight Sxx lights already because gearbest sold them like hot cakes for cheap a while ago including the S15R,S1,S30 etc.. The S1 is just smaller.

True, the prices were insane for olight but lets be honest, the so called premium manufactors are often not really better than budget manufactors, its more or less all the same. Remember the acebeam/thrunite saga or sunwayman/darktort. Darktort P20C is half the price compared to a sunwayman labeled version. You can even read sunwayman on the darktort driver.

This olight design seems to be pretty popular, thrunite copied it as well and there is now another brand, angryfox.

By the way look at the new sunwayman t16r, love the quality looks. We need a groupbuy ^^

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Nice review! Can it be opened? How moddable is it? Anyone try or mod one yet?

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Bezel is not glued. M3 comes with nice flat red o-ring and a threaded reflector. Genuine CREE XM-L2 LED verified under the scope. cool 


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Nice review! Can it be opened? How moddable is it? Anyone try or mod one yet?

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Ok, thanks, but that's only half the battle. What about driver access? Hhmm, only noticed now the pic in the OP showing the driver. Maybe it's glued in place, or maybe separate piece that's a pill? Lot of times they are press fit in place and can be forced/nudged out from pressure on top maybe...

From the LED view above, almost looks like a separate pill?

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Tom E wrote:

Ok, thanks, but that's only half the battle. What about driver access? Hhmm, only noticed now the pic in the OP showing the driver. Maybe it's glued in place, or maybe separate piece that's a pill? Lot of times they are press fit in place and can be forced/nudged out from pressure on top maybe...

From the LED view above, almost looks like a separate pill?

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I ordered one anyways. The Group Buy 5C one doesn't ship til after June 30th, so I ordered the 5C "Full Pack" at $25, but discounted down on points to ~$19, say'n it will ship tomorrow. Hoping we can figure out driver access without damage wink. With the Olight's, some guys have little to no trouble dis-assemblying, while others just can't budge no matter you try.

That post you linked to, says you will only dismantle after pics and measurements, so..., are you done? smile

They may say integrated pill design, but they also say 900 lumens ...

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Haha... I am working on my next review at the very moment. I have zero experience in mod with side-switch, so I let the experts like you to carry out. sealed

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...says you will only dismantle after pics and measurements, so..., are you done? smile

 

900lm did not happen as expected. Fasttech has already specified the reading at 2.3A even before M3 was listed in GB. 2.3A at tail with Olight 16340 is the best I can get. As for the integrated pill design... I think they are referring to solid pill.

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They may say integrated pill design, but they also say 900 lumens ...

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There is only one dollar price difference between the set with the charger etc.. and the standalone version. I feel the price is a bit expansive because the olight S1 is available for more or less the same price with coupon code. I like the voltage warning, something the S1 dont have but this light is more a S10 rival i would say, S1 is shorter. I wonder if the original olight is CNC machined or die cast as well like this light.

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daninho wrote:
There is only one dollar price difference between the set with the charger etc.. and the standalone version. I feel the price is a bit expansive because the olight S1 is available for more or less the same price with coupon code. I like the voltage warning, something the S1 dont have but this light is more a S10 rival i would say, S1 is shorter. I wonder if the original olight is CNC machined or die cast as well like this light.

Well, that's true of the listed prices, but not for the group buy price freeme has listed for the M3 (http://budgetlightforum.com/node/46875).

The S1 is only very cool white, this is available in a nice 5C, more features, yes bigger though. Also much easier access to the LED on the M3 - I still can't get the bezel off my S1's - ugh, can't stand the blue cool tint.

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Is it true that newer lights have a true moonlight mode? In that review the guy got one with a true moonlight, maybe a defect.

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I tried two M3 chargers, two different 16340s, one 220V input, the other USB input.
The M3 chargers charge up to exactly 4.27V on both tries.
Seems to be a little over the borderline.

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Edit: Indeed, OTR UC3 charger did overcharge my OTR 16340 battery to 4.28V. Full gift set buyers please beware of this issue.
I am charging my OTR battery via USB. 4.21V is measured in the bay. Will let you know my completed voltage in a while.

flashmaster wrote:
I tried two M3 chargers, two different 16340s, one 220V Input, the other USB Input. The M3 charger charges up to exactly 4.27V on both tries. Seems to be a little over the borderline.
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Got mine today, full gift set - really, really nice so far - love the tint. I was soooo disappointed with the S1, and I bought two, one is still unopened in the box. The blue tint of the S1 is ridiculous, plus locked in un-replaceable LED.

Of course I'm not crazy about the UI with the pres&hold. Seems almost broken that a single click from OFF does nothing. Much rather have the ramping UI of Narsil, or the mode sets, plus the power. Now the fun begins - seeing if it I can get full access to the driver and get a ATtiny85 based driver in there.

The tint looks absolutely perfect to me - no shading around the hot spot, just a nice milky white, slight hint of yellow. I dunno where you can buy a U2 5C - makes you wonder how legit it is. I only see "5X" tints in a T5 bin at best (MtnE has a listed T6 5C1, but limited). I'll drop in a fully charge 16340 IMR and measure it up - see what the real turbo level is.

Also it seems to throw decently for it's size, much better than the S1.

I think I'll xfer the LED to a Noctigon at first - well worth keeping it. The stock MCPCB appears to be regular aluminum.

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Tom E wrote:

Got mine today, full gift set – really, really nice so far – love the tint. I was soooo disappointed with the S1, and I bought two, one is still unopened in the box. The blue tint of the S1 is ridiculous, plus locked in un-replaceable LED.


Of course I’m not crazy about the UI with the pres&hold. Seems almost broken that a single click from OFF does nothing. Much rather have the ramping UI of Narsil, or the mode sets, plus the power. Now the fun begins – seeing if it I can get full access to the driver and get a ATtiny85 based driver in there.


The tint looks absolutely perfect to me – no shading around the hot spot, just a nice milky white, slight hint of yellow. I dunno where you can buy a U2 5C – makes you wonder how legit it is. I only see “5X” tints in a T5 bin at best (MtnE has a listed T6 5C1, but limited). I’ll drop in a fully charge 16340 IMR and measure it up – see what the real turbo level is.


Also it seems to throw decently for it’s size, much better than the S1.


I think I’ll xfer the LED to a Noctigon at first – well worth keeping it. The stock MCPCB appears to be regular aluminum.


You cant compare it to the s1, its more a s10 clone.

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