Re-post: How to deal with trolls

sb56637 · June 11, 2016, 5:33pm

Very true sir! :+1: :+1:

sb56637 · June 11, 2016, 5:33pm

Exactly! very well expressed.

teacher · June 11, 2016, 7:19pm

DB Custom:

teacher, I’ve been avoiding this, The famous last word syndrome. We all have to watch that, in trying to make our point, we don’t end up leading the argument or turning a discussion into something more agitated.

Benchmade has a logo that says “Held to a higher standard.” I’ve always liked the thought of that, the very idea that perfection exists and is worthy of striving for.

I’m not meaning to single you out, per se, but this example is one we can all easily fall prey to. It’s the bane of social behavior, the need to prove oneself righteous and worthy.

I think we can all agree, open forum arguments are completely worthless to any productive effort.

I’ve always felt a complete explanation helps further a deeper understanding. That said, I’m here so much because I have a physical disability in the name of a Conversion Disorder. Stress or even cold causes me to have muscle spasms, very often excruciatingly intense ones. This has been going on for nearly 16 years. In being here, and working on lights, there is a focus and a certain avoidance of issues that is relaxing. I have found that there are many here suffering something, some with very severe issues. So it might pay to consider that a great many people with the time to be on any forum are going through a lot in their lives, suffice it to say they’re not at their best all of the time. Once some of that is taken into consideration, it may be easier to be patient with what someone says, or how they said it, or that they even said it at all.

We’re a world wide family, it takes a bit more compassion than normal to keep it peaceful sometimes.

While for me, this quote is religious, it can apply to anyone anywhere… “As is the strength of thy conviction, so shall be thy salvation.” Let’s all have conviction in doing right, be strong in that commitment, and continue trying to make the world a brighter place, for the benefit of our children and their children.

:+1: ……. Well said Dale.

keengeorge · June 11, 2016, 8:17pm

DB Custom:

teacher, I’ve been avoiding this, but your arguments with ReManG could have died much earlier. The famous last word syndrome. We all have to watch that, in trying to make our point, we don’t end up leading the argument or turning a discussion into something more agitated. It should stand to reason for any educated person anywhere, once you start calling someone names and calling them out in public, it’s all downhill from there.

Benchmade has a logo that says “Held to a higher standard.” I’ve always liked the thought of that, the very idea that perfection exists and is worthy of striving for. When you call yourself teacher, you’ve given yourself a moniker that carries some burdens… it’s expected of you to be exemplary in behavior as we expect all of our teacher’s to be. Under the microscope, as it were. So name calling and open forum arguing really make you look bad, especially with that name. Doesn’t help your case much that Gary is well known and widely liked around these parts.

I’m not meaning to single you out, per se, but this example is one we can all easily fall prey to. It’s the bane of social behavior, the need to prove oneself righteous and worthy.

Many these days would apologize up front for any unintended offense, I won’t do that, as I am merely calling it like I see it. I think we can all agree, open forum arguments are completely worthless to any productive effort.

I know I’m long winded, and for that I do apologize, but I’ve always felt a complete explanation helps further a deeper understanding. That said, I’m here so much because I have a physical disability in the name of a Conversion Disorder. Stress or even cold causes me to have muscle spasms, very often excruciatingly intense ones. This has been going on for nearly 16 years. In being here, and working on lights, there is a focus and a certain avoidance of issues that is relaxing. I have found that there are many here suffering something, some with very severe issues. So it might pay to consider that a great many people with the time to be on any forum are going through a lot in their lives, suffice it to say they’re not at their best all of the time. Once some of that is taken into consideration, it may be easier to be patient with what someone says, or how they said it, or that they even said it at all.

Keeping it civil is sometimes difficult to do, what is Civil in Bangladesh, as compared to Alabama, USA? We’re a world wide family, it takes a bit more compassion than normal to keep it peaceful sometimes.

While for me, this quote is religious, it can apply to anyone anywhere… “As is the strength of thy conviction, so shall be thy salvation.” Let’s all have conviction in doing right, be strong in that commitment, and continue trying to make the world a brighter place, for the benefit of our children and their children.

teacher:

DB Custom:

teacher, I’ve been avoiding this,~~ The famous last word syndrome. We all have to watch that, in trying to make our point, we don’t end up leading the argument or turning a discussion into something more agitated.

Benchmade has a logo that says “Held to a higher standard.” I’ve always liked the thought of that, the very idea that perfection exists and is worthy of striving for.

I’m not meaning to single you out, per se, but this example is one we can all easily fall prey to. It’s the bane of social behavior, the need to prove oneself righteous and worthy.

I think we can all agree, open forum arguments are completely worthless to any productive effort.

I’ve always felt a complete explanation helps further a deeper understanding. That said, I’m here so much because I have a physical disability in the name of a Conversion Disorder. Stress or even cold causes me to have muscle spasms, very often excruciatingly intense ones. This has been going on for nearly 16 years. In being here, and working on lights, there is a focus and a certain avoidance of issues that is relaxing. I have found that there are many here suffering something, some with very severe issues. So it might pay to consider that a great many people with the time to be on any forum are going through a lot in their lives, suffice it to say they’re not at their best all of the time. Once some of that is taken into consideration, it may be easier to be patient with what someone says, or how they said it, or that they even said it at all.

We’re a world wide family, it takes a bit more compassion than normal to keep it peaceful sometimes.

While for me, this quote is religious, it can apply to anyone anywhere… “As is the strength of thy conviction, so shall be thy salvation.” Let’s all have conviction in doing right, be strong in that commitment, and continue trying to make the world a brighter place, for the benefit of our children and their children.

……. Well said Dale.

Teacher, you have edited what Dale said because you did not like what he said, so that you could "agree" with some of it, & as per usual you must have the last word.

Practice as you preach.

Best Regards,

George

Edit:

Highlighted some more relevant words that teacher left out.

M4D_M4X · June 11, 2016, 8:14pm

i vote for a “thats a trollpost!” button besides the “mark as spam”
(an explanation should be mandatory to send)

if a certain number of users click that button the post gets hidden - only a “post was marked as not useful - click if you want to read” message will appear then
(the information is not lost)
the post may not be edited then as long as the admin approves the post on request (when the author does request that)

so a user who gets marked can think about why he offends the other members
he can learn and change his style
if he does not want to change he might see he does not fit

on the other hand if one “angry guy” used that function a lot, but all the posts stay he can see (and so does the admin) that his opinion is a minority he might let it go for the greater good

.

am i naive?

teacher · June 11, 2016, 8:14pm

keengeorge:

DB Custom:

teacher, I’ve been avoiding this, but your arguments with ReManG could have died much earlier. The famous last word syndrome. We all have to watch that, in trying to make our point, we don’t end up leading the argument or turning a discussion into something more agitated. It should stand to reason for any educated person anywhere, once you start calling someone names and calling them out in public, it’s all downhill from there.

Benchmade has a logo that says “Held to a higher standard.” I’ve always liked the thought of that, the very idea that perfection exists and is worthy of striving for. When you call yourself teacher, you’ve given yourself a moniker that carries some burdens… it’s expected of you to be exemplary in behavior as we expect all of our teacher’s to be. Under the microscope, as it were. So name calling and open forum arguing really make you look bad, especially with that name. Doesn’t help your case much that Gary is well known and widely liked around these parts.

I’m not meaning to single you out, per se, but this example is one we can all easily fall prey to. It’s the bane of social behavior, the need to prove oneself righteous and worthy.

Many these days would apologize up front for any unintended offense, I won’t do that, as I am merely calling it like I see it. I think we can all agree, open forum arguments are completely worthless to any productive effort.

I know I’m long winded, and for that I do apologize, but I’ve always felt a complete explanation helps further a deeper understanding. That said, I’m here so much because I have a physical disability in the name of a Conversion Disorder. Stress or even cold causes me to have muscle spasms, very often excruciatingly intense ones. This has been going on for nearly 16 years. In being here, and working on lights, there is a focus and a certain avoidance of issues that is relaxing. I have found that there are many here suffering something, some with very severe issues. So it might pay to consider that a great many people with the time to be on any forum are going through a lot in their lives, suffice it to say they’re not at their best all of the time. Once some of that is taken into consideration, it may be easier to be patient with what someone says, or how they said it, or that they even said it at all.

Keeping it civil is sometimes difficult to do, what is Civil in Bangladesh, as compared to Alabama, USA? We’re a world wide family, it takes a bit more compassion than normal to keep it peaceful sometimes.

While for me, this quote is religious, it can apply to anyone anywhere… “As is the strength of thy conviction, so shall be thy salvation.” Let’s all have conviction in doing right, be strong in that commitment, and continue trying to make the world a brighter place, for the benefit of our children and their children.

teacher:

DB Custom:

teacher, I’ve been avoiding this, The famous last word syndrome. We all have to watch that, in trying to make our point, we don’t end up leading the argument or turning a discussion into something more agitated.

Benchmade has a logo that says “Held to a higher standard.” I’ve always liked the thought of that, the very idea that perfection exists and is worthy of striving for.

I’m not meaning to single you out, per se, but this example is one we can all easily fall prey to. It’s the bane of social behavior, the need to prove oneself righteous and worthy.

I think we can all agree, open forum arguments are completely worthless to any productive effort.

I’ve always felt a complete explanation helps further a deeper understanding. That said, I’m here so much because I have a physical disability in the name of a Conversion Disorder. Stress or even cold causes me to have muscle spasms, very often excruciatingly intense ones. This has been going on for nearly 16 years. In being here, and working on lights, there is a focus and a certain avoidance of issues that is relaxing. I have found that there are many here suffering something, some with very severe issues. So it might pay to consider that a great many people with the time to be on any forum are going through a lot in their lives, suffice it to say they’re not at their best all of the time. Once some of that is taken into consideration, it may be easier to be patient with what someone says, or how they said it, or that they even said it at all.

We’re a world wide family, it takes a bit more compassion than normal to keep it peaceful sometimes.

While for me, this quote is religious, it can apply to anyone anywhere… “As is the strength of thy conviction, so shall be thy salvation.” Let’s all have conviction in doing right, be strong in that commitment, and continue trying to make the world a brighter place, for the benefit of our children and their children.

……. Well said Dale.

Teacher, you have edited what Dale said because you did not like what he said, so that you could “agree” with some of it, & as per usual you must have the last word.

Practice as you preach.

Best Regards,

George

You had to put your .02 in didn’t you keengeorge? A very appropriate thread for it too I might add.

I quoted what I agreed with… so as to avoid additional comment…… simple as that.
Your actions do nothing more than stir the pot once again.

The truth is if either ReManG or I either one had displayed the institutional fortitude our “argument” could have died much sooner than it did. Unfortunately neither one of us displayed that trait.
ReManG gave as good as he got. I gave as good as I got. We were both childish… that is a two way street however.

So what is the point in your post keengeorge??? Please enlighten me and anyone else who might wish to know.

everydaysurvivalgear · June 11, 2016, 8:30pm

WOW Chill out teacher!

I do not take any offense to what ReManG says its just the way he is I guess he likes to say his words. Same goes with Dale but once again nothing offensive is said! Some times its hard on a forum with people from different places one thing we might accept they may not. Also the Australian sense of humor is very different! I call my best mate a D*ckhead and he does the same to me no offense is taken!

But Its one thing to say your words and another to personally attack some one. Or to Single people out for not agreeing with you!

DB_Custom · June 11, 2016, 8:31pm

This is all just growing pains really, when the forum was smaller it was easier to self moderate. We’ve grown a lot, quickly, and it’s taking some time to settle down.

Nobody has to put up with any of it, honestly, any one of us is free to not open a thread, not address a statement we don’t like, or simply not log in at all.

By coming out in the “open” with some things, it may very well help the forum family find a happy medium, that’s all.

One things for certain, all the bickering and drama is not relaxing, regardless of where it’s coming from or who started it.

teacher · June 11, 2016, 8:40pm

I am completely lost at whatever your point is mate?? I’m serious…….
Why would you assume I am not “chilled out”???

everydaysurvivalgear · June 11, 2016, 8:57pm

Keengeorge said his words just leave it. He wasn’t attacking you he was asking a question.

CRX · June 11, 2016, 9:15pm

Rebuke a wise man and he will be wiser, correct a fool and he will be your enemy.

DB_Custom · June 11, 2016, 9:22pm

CRX, 4th one from the right, me LIKEY! :heart_eyes:

CRX · June 11, 2016, 9:33pm

Graphitized Trustfire Mini 02 triple XP-L HI

Texlite · June 11, 2016, 10:17pm

Taking a cue from RacoonCity…lol

ETA: If that’s out of line someone PM me.

DB_Custom · June 11, 2016, 10:39pm

I’ve got a problem with that big box of Snickers on the screen…
No matter how I shake my monitor none will fall out on my desk!

Texlite · June 11, 2016, 10:51pm

That popcorn button could have gotten quite the workout of late, been plenty of appropriate places for it unfortunately!

LOL! Shake Harder!

Joking aside, if we ever exchange anything by mail, I’ll be sure to include one in the box.

On a trip to Central America once, got hooked on white chocolate covered coffee beans. Sounds gross but they’re delicious and I’m not even a big chocolate or coffee fan. They only ship them certain times of the year though because the heat melts them into a blob while on its way to its destination. Now that I’m reminded I’m going to be wanting some all summer!

cavesprings · June 11, 2016, 10:59pm

Are you saying someone here needs a Snickers?

Texlite · June 12, 2016, 1:05am

Hadn’t seen that one, thanks!

Yeah, just saying some folks seem a little more tightly wound than usual lol.

For me, when something in a thread or post on the internet actually annoy me, I know it’s time to step away.

Everyone’s entitled to have a bad day, but it’s best to know when to walk away so it doesn’t become a streak.

-Michael

Dimbo_The_Blinky · June 12, 2016, 2:14am

It seems easy to forget that we all, each and every one of us, has the Right to Free Speech. You can prove that for yourself: Without committing Assault or applying any other unsolicited Force, get any other person to stop talking.

Even governments can’t do it, no matter how despotic. All they can do is punish what they don’t like, and that just leads to bloodshed — usually the Despot’s, historically speaking.

It’s also easy to forget that speech is ALL there is on the Internet. You can prove that too! I’m calling you an A-hole. Now punch your monitor hard enough to bloody my nose. How did that feel? Didn’t bother me a bit.

The trick is understanding that by rejoicing in another person’s exercise of their Free Speech Right, you actually bolster and reinforce your own Free Speech Right by so doing.

Now you just have to understand that there is NO LAW that says you have to LISTEN.

Back to your regularly scheduled … whatever that was.

hank · June 12, 2016, 2:34am

Bump