Looks like we’re having Redwing Sole a la carte for supper. (we’ve already put both feet in our mouths, not much chance now of reversing that)
Oh don’t get me wrong it is good issues gets attention.
The raised centre of the pill was a genuine issue, no is
It is good it is known and people can decide they are up for getting the material out in the odd chance one receives a fluke with raised centre, just like Jaxman does with them.
It were the many +sed insults and therefore lack of respect for Jaxman businesses practices and choices that were a bit over the top 
I’m not really sure how to respond to this line of conversation. Maybe I shouldn’t say anything at all, and yet here I go anyway 
I kinda feel bad since I’m the one that started the conversation about the pill surface finishing, but on the other hand I feel like I was fair and understanding in my comments, and I also feel like I had a genuine concern that others should be aware of. Some of the more experienced modders may check and hand-finish every pill they touch, but I bet some of the newer guys don’t. I know I didn’t when I was first starting out. So I was just trying to help others who may come after us, since that was what the “first 10” was called upon to do. If something I said offended Paul or Jaxman then I truly apologize. It was not my intention. I think they make a fantastic product and hope they’ll continue to work with us.
No it was good and just to bring it up.
And as you say, exactly the reason for the smaller first group.
Thanks!
Paul has responded and understands now how BLF just likes to debate every little detail and seems OK with that. To be honest if a party wants to do specials they must be OK with that anyway so that is smoothened out.
Right now it is “the best way is no way” but
that could largely be due to Jaxman being very busy for starters and secondary a good way to let people order who are on the list being sure no others can order is not there (yet).
I have an idea for this (ask Paul to create a checkout link for $1,- as Simon has a $0,01 checkout option. Then propose a hostprice including shipping and pm people a code for ordering the host via checkout link eiry a message “BLF host Z1 ####” #### being code.
Good idea TheMiller :+1:
I'm not innocent in all this as well 
. Might have mis-interpreted things, specially considering I'm a big fan of the Z1 and very impressed by the overall quality of the Jaxman lights.
If it’s an issue, it’s an issue. 1970’s era Ford Pinto’s blow up when they’re rear-ended. It’s not slander, or meant to be offensive, it’s the truth. If your light had an issue, let’s discuss it and try to resolve the problem. Which it did. Jaxman started his own thread talking about machining of the pills, so he is now aware of the potential issue (even though I think yours was the only one that appeared to be way off spec).
The Z1 isn’t a completely flawless light, and the price tag reflects that. So there are going to be issues that are discussed. Which is why I started the thread.
K - I feel little better now 
. I think it's actually good that this is the only thing we can point out.
Sweeping the negatives under the rug, like the other thread had a bad habit of, doesn’t solve anything. Let’s put all of our heads together and solve the problem!
Having said all of that, I think everyone would agree that the positives WAY outweigh the negatives of the Z1. It’s an amazing light!
FWIW , nw Cometa (a 3B supposedly ?) on the left, Brynite B158 modded with a 3C on the right, the 3C looks very nice and neutral (to me) in real life.
Reworked the 4s mtn version to 20mm noctigon xhp35 d4 5k. 4X 26350 16.8v two tube. Excellent focus and major improvement over the single tube FX35 single 26650. lux actual: l/m/h/t 63, 396, 486, 980. Conversion: Area in Sq Ft, Sp rad 2 /ft, Surface 50.265,numbers lumen 292, 1849, 2269, 4576. Will do comparison FX later. Thoughts: Excellent for everyday use h/m/l with occasional turbo when needed approx one minute as heat builds. No additional heatsink added. Used kaptan on base of cover. Added adhesive insulator to back of cover centered. Added round plastic centering ring resting on noctigon around led with cover at one and one half threads in. Outside no tint shift noticed. More later. …and I wished I had pics too.
You wished ypu had pics? Well you’re not alone!
Paul needs a couple of days before he can respond in depth to my proposal of a simpler way for BLFers to get this host.
I asked him to do it either just 1 at the time (so somebody wants a host and gets a PM how to get it the same day) or collect more.
The first way would not take a lot of time and could be done during busy times since it is not 25/50/100 orders at once.
He did not reject now but asked for some time to write a good answer. Report back when hearing more.
The mailman (well actually a women ) brought a box.
Yellow heavy tape all around.
Inside was a small white simple box and sone stuff to fill it.
When opening a mat anodised tail was visible.
I pulled the light out of the box and saw a lens cap and “Jaxman” written on the tube.
YAY
What a light! And so glad I could see how it works right away.
Wauw! Just wauw
This oozes quality.
Zoomed at any level and no rattle to hear or feel when shaken hard.
It has immediately earned a place next to the S70 at hand for checking the grounds.
Love this light and will keep it stock, now for the host that will be made with another LED and driver then the XML2 NW and stock driver in this one. This one I do not dare to open, the dust free underside of the lens after it being assembled good must remain so!
Now imagine that light with a good XPL HI, TK’s Bistro UI and lit tailcap…imagine what a light that’d be….
^ buy the Z1 host (when it is available again) and transfer the innards of the “pipebomb” into the original host.
That thought has been playing inside my mind for so many times ever since the Z1 host groupbuy started.
Yes that is exactly what I plan on doing lionhart and akhyar
But this one stays stock for now, still looking for nice soft gloves for handling lenses and refelctors.
Maybe when those are in I will mod this stock Z1 (because one of those BIG leds MTG2/XHPxx in the Z1 sounds pretty sweet too!)
Would be cool to 1 on 1 compare the stock XML2 NW vs the cool BLF parts (Bistro XPL HI NW tailcap) of the pipebomb
I’m also interested in the stock Z1 with XHP50 emitter, but only when using 2x 26350 batteries as I’m not fond of the extended length of 2x 26650 as I do find the size of the “pipebomb” feels just nice in the hand.
But so far only one member has tested the Z1 XHP50 with 2x 26350 and his initial impressions on the config is not that impressive, so I’m reading this thread on what are the options available
Not everyone on here is a modder unfortunately:-(
A Professional is a trained Amateur.
Everybody starts somewhere, right?
:+1: …… Amen!!