Disappointed with my Klarus Mi7

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Just wait when all Klarus-believers received CLARUS G20 XHP70 3K! It becomes a chaos here! Cool

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Streamer wrote:
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if you not see much diference between 240 lumens NiMH and 580 lumens 14500 (my measurements).

By your own measurements above^^^, Mi7 is lacking over 17% of total ADVERTISED lumen output. That is MY problem with the Mi7. Klarus is overstating from the getgo. Let the buyer beware. There is no organized campaign to attack this light. the resulting lumens that you yourself tested and presented here clearly show mi7 is lacking. Relax. It’s still a great little light. I’m glad you are pleased with it. Maybe the other poster has a defective light, but that does not change your own measured lumens of 240 -580.


Yes its not nice from the manufacturer to claim 700 lumen, im somehow used to those things from the past. There were lots of claims in the past. On the other hand, what is the alternative, the only reason im not pissed is because i just wanted a bright 14500 light with voltage indicator function and a super low mode from off. Ok, 300 Lumen would be a bit to dimm for me but 550-600 is about right for me in such a small EDC. With 700 Lumen that thing would be overheating even faster. Im also not pissed because of the Group buy price ^^. I mean it wasnt that expensive.
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Just received mine. It’s difficult for me to compare output, but I can say it’s still very bright on 14500. Hot spot is brighter than my Convoy S2+ 6*7135 on max. Smaller a bit and therefore brighter. I can say that it has enough power. Worth the coupon price.

Cons from my side:

  • the button feels a little “cheap” – but it’s just a feeling
  • no clip, no magnet….I don’t prefer keychain type lights, especially AA size
  • the “low” mode (should be rather called medium) could be little lower on AA to increase the runtime.
  • it could also start from that “low” instead of high.

What I like:

  • the moonlight mode – it’s excellent for my needs
  • fit & finish (except button)
  • it’s small, pocketable
  • very well spaced modes on 14500

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Anyone got a RED mi7 and, say, a red S2 to make a comparison pic ?

Here you go!

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Trevi_lux wrote:
Manker E11 around 320-330 lumens (ANSI between 30-180 seconds after on….manufacturer claims 400 lumens)……
around 15-18% overrated

I got a bit more, based on my measurement with eneloop pro it stays above the 380 lumens mark for 90 seconds.

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Budda wrote:
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Manker E11 around 320-330 lumens (ANSI between 30-180 seconds after on….manufacturer claims 400 lumens)…… around 15-18% overrated
I got a bit more, based on my measurement with eneloop pro it stays above the 380 lumens mark for 90 seconds.

In any case, a good result for a NiMH aa of this size, really, I am not complaining about the values of the E11 or the Mi7, they are all good, even the JetB-I Mk is great with 14500 … with NiMH the JetBeam …. is a little low…

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Trevi_lux wrote:
Manker E11 around 320-330 lumens (ANSI between 30-180 seconds after on....manufacturer claims 400 lumens)...... around 15-18% overrated.....someone of the people(of this thread) is upset about this?.....bla,bla,bla....not campaign... nooo

 

Hi sir,  we didn't  overstate lumens, please check. 

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Trevi_lux wrote:
Manker E11 around 320-330 lumens (ANSI between 30-180 seconds after on….manufacturer claims 400 lumens)…… around 15-18% overrated…..someone of the people(of this thread) is upset about this?…..bla,bla,bla….not campaign… nooo

 


Hi sir,  we didn’t  overstate lumens, please check. 

Hello Sir, Nice see you here in this thread,…is not a surprise……(some friend call you perhaps……?)

I have measured for example around 82 lumens for your Nice Manker E01, other people with very good equipment have measured 90 lumens E01 , I think you rated 102 lumens, I think you are ok , is overrated 10-12 % for the equipment of others. I do not critic this, I only complain that some people only see the overrated data for other brands….
Your flashlight is very good AA, and so are others. I just try to show that discrepancies 10-15% of lumens are normal in different measurements and that some people attack for the simple pleasure of attacking.

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I got mine today. Not crazy about the UI. I like my Ultratac K18 better. Still a good deal.

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Good light.
fine ammount of lumens.
UI is stupid or I am Smile

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I got mine today. Not crazy about the UI. I like my Ultratac K18 better. Still a good deal.

My Stainless Steel K18 – what a beauty!

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Mankerlight wrote:

Trevi_lux wrote:
Manker E11 around 320-330 lumens (ANSI between 30-180 seconds after on….manufacturer claims 400 lumens)…… around 15-18% overrated…..someone of the people(of this thread) is upset about this?…..bla,bla,bla….not campaign… nooo

 


Hi sir,  we didn’t  overstate lumens, please check. 

What about your advertised 11 hour runtime for the 60 lumen mode on the E11?
Tests by a reviewer, using Eneloop Pro, consistently showed less than 8 hours or actual runtime.
Please, sir, you check.

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saypat wrote:
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I got mine today. Not crazy about the UI. I like my Ultratac K18 better. Still a good deal.

My Stainless Steel K18 – what a beauty!

I have the Brass k18. I soaked it in a baking soda solution to give it a nice patina, love how it looks.

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Just received my “red” mi7…
Definitely pink, thank you Klarus… I hate the color, that is that simple!
Seriously, this is so cheap looking, for the first time I decided not to chose a black flashlight it has to be fucked up!
UI is ok, emitter not quite centered and reflector quite ugly (IMO) but this pinkish cheap ano ugh!
Either I will strip the ano with baking soda or paint it black or find a way to darken the color… Any idea?

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Tete wrote:
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Anyone got a RED mi7 and, say, a red S2 to make a comparison pic ?

Here you go!

!http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae7/Tete1973/SAM_0013.jpg!

Oh boy, that looks deep hot pink. I bought the red one thinking it’d be red. Maybe my monitor is rendering your image unfavourably. Well, my red Mi7 is to be delivered any day now.

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mine arrived today, 10 business days later after paying a small fee. Seems nice enuf. I got black. I did consider RED but did not want to take a chance and get pink. Surprised to find a battery in it Smile Not sure of the UI yet. I’ll have to read the manual. Seems to have 3 modes and 2 strobes from what I can see. I don’t know, seems to be one of my better AA lights. Like the switch. Just my .02

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raven38571 wrote:
I got mine today. Not crazy about the UI. I like my Ultratac K18 better. Still a good deal.

I think the Mi7 is a much better light, the K18 is a tiny AAA light, it dont offer the battery status check and its dimmer, it also looks not that good. The only plus about it is a clip
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I think this thread title and original post is rather harsh and unjustified.
I’ve just reviewed this light, and it is generally positive review – http://budgetlightforum.com/node/48094
As with all flashlights, it may not suit everyone, but it is likely to be one of 2016’s most popular lights.

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How is my post unjustified? My Klaris isn’t bright compared to lower output flashlights I own. You would think that having a smaller hotspot than my first gen SC52, and my S1, the beam would be more intense than those two. It was just the opposite. I ended up giving it away to another BLF member. He’ll have it on Monday. Let’s see what he thinks.

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How is my post unjustified? My Klaris isn’t bright compared to lower output flashlights I own. You would think that having a smaller hotspot than my first gen SC52, and my S1, the beam would be more intense than those two. It was just the opposite. I ended up giving it away to another BLF member. He’ll have it on Monday. Let’s see what he thinks.

I have owned several Klarus models and perhaps been lucky enough not to get one performing below expectations.

l won’t be surprised if what you got was merely a bad, underperforming sample.

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How is my post unjustified? My Klaris isn’t bright compared to lower output flashlights I own. You would think that having a smaller hotspot than my first gen SC52, and my S1, the beam would be more intense than those two. It was just the opposite. I ended up giving it away to another BLF member. He’ll have it on Monday. Let’s see what he thinks.

Well, having a thread title saying “avoid” is a bit over the top. You should hope that Klarus don’t have good lawyers, as this thread is quite high up the google search rankings for this light!

Just because a light doesn’t meet your personal needs, or is not as good at some things as other lights in it’s category, doesn’t justify an “avoid” in the thread title. Based on many posts on here and CPF, there seem to be a lot of people that do like this light! Yes, the claimed output is rather optimistic, but for it’s medium price point this is a pretty impressive light. You are comparing against lights with 25-50% higher price !

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I just got mine this morning. Not as pink as I feared. In comparison to my E11 and Jetbeam AA it holds its own very well, or at least perceptively so. Will do proper measurements later on.

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How is my post unjustified? My Klaris isn’t bright compared to lower output flashlights I own. You would think that having a smaller hotspot than my first gen SC52, and my S1, the beam would be more intense than those two. It was just the opposite. I ended up giving it away to another BLF member. He’ll have it on Monday. Let’s see what he thinks.

Well, having a thread title saying “avoid” is a bit over the top. You should hope that Klarus don’t have good lawyers, as this thread is quite high up the google search rankings for this light!

Just because a light doesn’t meet your personal needs, or is not as good at some things as other lights in it’s category, doesn’t justify an “avoid” in the thread title. Based on many posts on here and CPF, there seem to be a lot of people that do like this light! Yes, the claimed output is rather optimistic, but for it’s medium price point this is a pretty impressive light. You are comparing against lights with 25-50% higher price !

Yeah but Klarus is claiming 700 lumens, while to 2 lights I compared it to are 500 lumens and are noticeably brighter . I purchased it based on it’s claimed lumen output alone. IMO, it’s a huge disappointment.

BTW, I changed the title of this thread.

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atbglenn wrote:
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How is my post unjustified? My Klaris isn’t bright compared to lower output flashlights I own. You would think that having a smaller hotspot than my first gen SC52, and my S1, the beam would be more intense than those two. It was just the opposite. I ended up giving it away to another BLF member. He’ll have it on Monday. Let’s see what he thinks.

Well, having a thread title saying “avoid” is a bit over the top. You should hope that Klarus don’t have good lawyers, as this thread is quite high up the google search rankings for this light!

Just because a light doesn’t meet your personal needs, or is not as good at some things as other lights in it’s category, doesn’t justify an “avoid” in the thread title. Based on many posts on here and CPF, there seem to be a lot of people that do like this light! Yes, the claimed output is rather optimistic, but for it’s medium price point this is a pretty impressive light. You are comparing against lights with 25-50% higher price !

Yeah but Klarus is claiming 700 lumens, while to 2 lights I compared it to are 500 lumens and are noticeably brighter . I purchased it based on it’s claimed lumen output alone. IMO, it’s a huge disappointment.

BTW, I changed the title of this thread.


I think you got a lemon because not as bright as 500 lumen lights would mean 400 lumen or so. The Mi7 should have about 550-600 lumen according to many other tests here.
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daninho wrote:
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How is my post unjustified? My Klaris isn’t bright compared to lower output flashlights I own. You would think that having a smaller hotspot than my first gen SC52, and my S1, the beam would be more intense than those two. It was just the opposite. I ended up giving it away to another BLF member. He’ll have it on Monday. Let’s see what he thinks.

Well, having a thread title saying “avoid” is a bit over the top. You should hope that Klarus don’t have good lawyers, as this thread is quite high up the google search rankings for this light!

Just because a light doesn’t meet your personal needs, or is not as good at some things as other lights in it’s category, doesn’t justify an “avoid” in the thread title. Based on many posts on here and CPF, there seem to be a lot of people that do like this light! Yes, the claimed output is rather optimistic, but for it’s medium price point this is a pretty impressive light. You are comparing against lights with 25-50% higher price !

Yeah but Klarus is claiming 700 lumens, while to 2 lights I compared it to are 500 lumens and are noticeably brighter . I purchased it based on it’s claimed lumen output alone. IMO, it’s a huge disappointment.

BTW, I changed the title of this thread.


I think you got a lemon because not as bright as 500 lumen lights would mean 400 lumen or so. The Mi7 should have about 550-600 lumen according to many other tests here.

Very possible. I can only go by the one I recieved . It seems to work nomally. No flicker, modes work normally, etc. My 14500’s work perfectly fine. What else can I say?

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atbglenn thanks for post! I almost bought one. Glad I waited. Coupon price + 700 or more lumens is a recipe for strong sales.

 

 

 

 

 
 
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atbglenn wrote:
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How is my post unjustified? My Klaris isn’t bright compared to lower output flashlights I own. You would think that having a smaller hotspot than my first gen SC52, and my S1, the beam would be more intense than those two. It was just the opposite. I ended up giving it away to another BLF member. He’ll have it on Monday. Let’s see what he thinks.

Well, having a thread title saying “avoid” is a bit over the top. You should hope that Klarus don’t have good lawyers, as this thread is quite high up the google search rankings for this light!

Just because a light doesn’t meet your personal needs, or is not as good at some things as other lights in it’s category, doesn’t justify an “avoid” in the thread title. Based on many posts on here and CPF, there seem to be a lot of people that do like this light! Yes, the claimed output is rather optimistic, but for it’s medium price point this is a pretty impressive light. You are comparing against lights with 25-50% higher price !

Yeah but Klarus is claiming 700 lumens, while to 2 lights I compared it to are 500 lumens and are noticeably brighter . I purchased it based on it’s claimed lumen output alone. IMO, it’s a huge disappointment.

BTW, I changed the title of this thread.

2 reviewers have measured the light at over 600 lumens. It should be brighter than your 500 lumen lights unless you got a lemon.

Also it still sounds like you’re comparing brightness by looking at the hotspots. This is NOT how to do it. You need to point the light at the ceiling and look at the reflected light at the floor… or use an integrating sphere. Hotspots alone can be very misleading. For instance, the Klarus might have a smaller dimmer hotspot and yet still be brighter than your 500 lumen lights due to wider spill. If you’re trying to measure total lumens produced by a light you cannot look directly at the hotspots.

It’s also possible you got a lemon. My recollection is that even with the same brightness bin there’s a +-20% brightness range. It’s possible your Klarus just happens to be at the bottom of that range while your 500 lumen lights are at the top.

A third possibility could be your cells aren’t high enough quality or are too old to get maximum output. I don’t have this light myself, but my favorite 14500 cell is the Efest purple IMR from Mountain Electronics. With one of those in my modded 1xXPL HI Skilhunt DS16 with FET driver and my light is as bright as my SC600w III HI. So well over 1100 lumens for a brief period of time.

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So who here has tested it with an accurate sphere? Anybody?

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The Op says it’s not kickin out the light it should. I tend to trust folks on this forum and Klarus tends to overstate lumens anyways. The g30 puts out 1900 from a claimed 2450. I agree, wait til folks get the G20, there’s gonna be a s$&tstorm!!

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Look guys, I’m not a newbie with flashlights. I have around 50 over the course of the last 5 years and never been more disappointed. I don’t care what ceiling bounce might say, I go with what my eye says. And it say’s this thing sucks. It’s true my particular Mi7 could be on the lower end of the scale when it comes to output. But that’s how I’m judging it. That being said, I’m not a happy camper. That’s all I can say. Buy one at your own risk.

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Edit: someone marked this post as rude? Who ever it is, get a freaking life!

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