DQG Tiny 4th 18650 xml-2 review

Carclo + glass(1.7mm)


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Maybe use somewhat thinner glass. On mine (1mm x 21.3mm glass) it screws down all the way.

But nice, how’s the driver section working out?

I’m reorder new glass (1mm)

Driver glued. I squeezed it with a screwdriver. But in the end broke the resistor R50.
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I finally finished my flashlight.
All photos here Светодиодные фонари и световые приборы. Всё о светотехнике. - Альбом MSS: DQG Tiny 4th XML2 18650
LED https://www.fasttech.com/p/3505302
Glass http://aliexpress.com/item/New-flat-glass-watch-crystal-diameter-21-5mm-Thick-1mm/1097050471.html
MCPCB http://intl-outdoor.com/noctigon-3xp-advanced-triple-led-copper-mcpcb-2-pcs-p-763.html
TIR http://intl-outdoor.com/carclo-10507-triple-led-optic-lens-p-836.html

Serp,

That is a fantastic mod! Thanks for the great photos and especially the links to the parts you used!

I do not like only a small gap between the bezel and the housing
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Wabi Sabi

That gap is only a small flaw in an excellent build, take the excellence, accept the small flaw… Great work…

I am still too chicken to do more than swap TIR’s in mine…

Nice job :+1:

What driver did you use?

I think your heatsink (is it thermal glue?) is a bit too thick. The top of your carclo sit’s a bit too high for the gap to close on the bezel. Does the carclo slide all the way down? I had to sand off the edges a bit.
Or maybe you can sand down the heatsink. Or the noctigon board a bit, but that is not really nice for the already limited heatsinking maybe.
Or place an (O-)ring to fill the gap.

I don’t know these nichia’s you used. Tint looks nice. Is it bright?
I’m looking to mod a second one with the new noctigon board with the small added pad for a locator led and high cri nichia’s. Someday :person_facepalming:

Worked out nice for you! It’s really my favourite small powerhouse.
Really nice job.

Hi :slight_smile:
>What driver did you use?
Original. Wires are soldered in place of the LED. I removed the LED on the soldering station (hot air 240С)
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No thermal glue, only termalpast.
Optics sits right on the edge. In addition, Im made a pit under it
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triple rests on a support of aluminum desired thickness
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http://forum.fonarevka.ru/album.php?albumid=1062&pictureid=15253

>I don’t know these nichia’s you used. Tint looks nice. Is it bright?
Not bright. I’m like it :slight_smile:
It’s warm white led (2500-2700K)
0,01А-0,25А-1,05А - after change SMD resistor R35 for R50
Turbo 2,25А
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i have had one for about 9 months
used normally
last week the switch broke off the circuit board
kind of a bad design
pushing the button strains the 4 solder joints every time you press
be prepared for it to not last forever
i emailed david, the creator, he seems sympathetic but does not offer help
so far

i can post a link to pictures of the break

wle

i used to be a fan of this light
but i have had one for about 9 months, normal use, and the switch just broke off the circuit board
this is a weak design
every time you press the button, it stresses 4 tiny solder joints holding the switch on the board
sooner or later it will fatigue and fall off

wle

Wle, that is good to know, on the III version, the switch is body mounted, and mine is still going strong. I use the IV version as a back up anyway.Thanks for the update!

body mounted might fix that problem, the IV has it on the circuit board, at the worst possible angle

i’m going to fix it with a switch made of 2 wires in the air, that the button can press together

wle

It looks like a drop or two of epoxy between the body and the switch would also solve the problem.

Mike

the force of pushing the button would then be held by the epoxy - IF it stuck and did not also get tweaked loose by button pressing…

wle

I have a few questions about the DQG 18650 Tiny 4th that I couldn’t find answered anywhere.

1) Is the driver in the light really constant current regulated? That doesn’t seem possible since the driver board seems to lack an inductor (though I can’t find a picture of the bottom of the PCB). At best it seems like it can maintain constant current only as long as the battery voltage stays above Vf using linear regulation or high speed PWM control (though I didn’t see a MCU either). The CNQG page, just says “Current Regulation”. I didn’t see any runtime vs. output graphs anywhere that would shed more light on this.

2) Can it fit protected 18650’s that are ~70mm long?

1) Is the driver in the light really constant current regulated?
No, it’s linear
Chip Qx7137 http://www.go-gddq.com/upload/2015-09/temp_15090911368037.pdf
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WARNING

the switch design is very bad
mine just broke off
at the SAME TIME it also failed, so i could not even solder it back

i had had it about 8 months, daily use but nothing extreme

i emailed the company dude, ric, he did not seem to care

wle

WARNING
switch design is very bad

mine broke off inside the light, after about 8 months of reasonable use

AND at the same time, it quit working, so i could not even solder it back

emailed company head, ric, he did not seem to care

(near the letter “K”, is where it SHOULD be)

wle

Same thing happened to mine with only a few weeks of moderate use, bad design the switch could of done with maybe some glue from a heat glue gun or similar behind to hold it rather than reliance on just the 2 solder pins to hold it in place.
shame as I liked it alot