BLF A6 with X5 reflector, or BLF X5 with 18650 tube (A6 body)

I think it is Manker .

If they want , they would be able to do this really easy …

Edit : But i don’t think they will work again with us , that’s what they said…

This isn’t a budget light, but the driver, warranty and the care and attention given their assembly is worth a lot, IMO. You can PM pflexpro on this forum with any questions. He might have suggestions for other customizations.

http://www.pflexpro.com/PFlexPRO-Convoy-M1-XM-L2-LED-Flashlight-p/pfp-m1-ap-fc.htm

I don’t think it would be too chunky. The difference would be, I find the X6 too big to carry in my jeans pocket, it’s just too bulky. So it’s a coat pocket only torch for me. Which sadly limits how much I get to use it.

An 18650 tube light like the A6 is perfect for EDC for me in a jeans pocket, but throw is somewhat limited. The X5 Has the throw but not the runtime.

I reckon an 18650 X5 would be slimmer, smoother and more pocket friendly than a Solarforce L2M, but with more throw and output potential. For me it would probably be the ultimate EDC format.

That said I’m quite a fan of the 16650 format, and wouldn’t object to that as an option. Although would mean machining of a new body and alterations to the head. While an 18650 version would only need the head altering as the body tubes already exist, or could be used from another light.

@alfas

Very cool renderings :slight_smile:

As for the Convoy M2. I have one of these, the head is quite chunky. And somehow bigger than that of the X5, so less pocket friendly for EDC as it feels more bulky. This trend is true with the rest of the body tube and tail cap too. It’s really thick metal and just chunky.

The crenalated bezel also makes it longer and sharper for pocket carry too. And my one at least it an OP reflector. So wont throw like the X5 can.

I also have the Convoy M1, it too is a little bulky and lumpy. It has a bigger OP reflector than the M2 and is IMO the nicer light of the two. As despite the bigger reflector, it actually isn’t really any bigger on the outside than the M2.

I for one would like to see it threaded for the A6 tubes… 18650 for the larger protected batteries, and the more pocketable 18350.

Nice work on the “prototype,” alfas! :wink:

I love my X5 and X6, and your X5.5 looks great! I really like the proportions.

I borrowed your work and added the soon-to-be-released 26650-powered Eagle Eye X7 for comparison.

I used the image here that shows the X6 and X7 together, so the scale should be close.


I think these two look great together! :smiley:

It looks great. You know I’d be in.

I don’t have an X6 or X5, but like the idea of an X5 head on an 18650 tube light body.

I might have my history wrong, but didn’t Eagle Eye come out with the X6 design first? From memory they were quite disappointed when they lost out to Manker, and still wanted to work with BLF. Why don’t we ask EE to scale the X6 head down and put it on the X2 tube?

I would buy one, I really like the x5 would love it to have the extra battery life an 18650 would give it.

+1

I don’t see why are we still supporting counterfeit… The only reason we ditched EE was because they couldn’t deliver a driver with enough amps, but still… The quality was better than the X6 made by Manker.

This thread's getting exciting

I won’t buy anything Manker after the A6, so disappointing quality speaking. EE X6, on the other hand, was really well made, so I hope for a X6.5 or X5.6 or whatever it will be called built by EE.

I could never follow along, who owns the rights to the BLF drivers? I was under the impression that it was either the members who designed it or BLF as a whole, but not Manker. Even if the original designers don’t want EE to use either of the BLF drivers there should be enough talent around here to come up with something.

If it was built around the X2 body perhaps X2.6 or X2.5 would be a good name to prevent too much association with the Kronos X5.

Eagle Eye is right up there with Convoy for my favorite manufacturers. Manker seems to do a decent job on stuff they design (with a couple exceptions) but can’t execute well when we stipulate the design. I think future “Kronos” groupbuys may be done directly with Neal/Banggood/Astrolux.

I would suggest contacting the owner of Eagle Eye through his Aliexpress store regarding this matter. I get the feeling he is a small operation like Simon is, but if you can get these images to him maybe he’d be on board.

My dream would be this form factor (X5 head, 18650 tube) plus the charger from the X2R, but that would hurt the aesthetics a bit.

I think it was less “disappointed” and more “furious.” There’s a reason why you can’t buy any EagleEye products on Banggood anymore. I don’t know how much EE blames BLF for that debacle, or if those wounds have healed.

Brilliant idea, Eagle eye X2 (convoy-compatible tube - 18350 tubes will also fit) with mid-size head with X5 size reflector.
Upd. No, X2R charger is bad idea, it lools awfull. Just indicator led.

Throw in side switch from EE X5 for some Narsil love.

What was wrong with the quality on the Kronos X6? I have both the Alu ones and the Cu/SS set.

I already thinking about the M1 or M2 but I found them too long and thick. The x5 head on a 18650 tube is great idea! If it happens I definietly buy one with BLF driver and an XPL-HI

I like the concept but will mod my A6 for that little bit more throw before I’d buy. That might be enough added throw for me, and this certainly will if the mods don’t. It does fill an unfilled ‘market niche’ as the biggest comfortably pocketable 18650 EDC light, and by using only existing proven components other than the head shell, it should be cheap and easy to produce. Whoever makes it could thread the head-body connection to be compatible with any existing light without treading on copyright or design patents.

Just no Manker involvement or I’m out. They have strayed from the path of righteous BLF lights with their QC blindness and unannounced changes, so we should not associate with them if we have better options available. More’s the pity because they can do very well, they just won’t. I’ve no experience with EE but respect the opinions of those who have so I’d try them first.

Phil

Hi guys!

Great to see everyone excited about this new light!

I have measured my Eagle Eye X6 and made some 3D CAD drawings to have a better idea of its final look. Unfortunately I do not own a X5, so it is not included in the comparison this time. I have estimated the X5 head diameter and lenght comparing the sizes via pictures. I have estimated the X5 head diameter to 31,2mm and X5 head lenght 42,5mm. If anyone can confirm that I can update the drawings but I don’t think it will make a visual difference in the final look right now.

Keep in mind these are not drawings for machining, these are just to illustrate.

The ideas of a built-in charger and side switch is much appreciated! I would like to see them both in this new light if it is possible (edit: ok, let’s keep it simple and budget-minded). Please spread the word so people who are experienced in dealing with the manufacturers and organizing group buys can turn this project into a final product.