Review: Cyclone C88 from Int'l Outdoor Store

119 posts / 0 new
Last post
vēer
vēer's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 01/07/2012 - 14:23
Posts: 2838
Location: N Europe

Cool, thanks!
I wonder whats the total number of affected Cyclones?

Foy
Foy's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 1 month ago
Joined: 01/02/2011 - 17:56
Posts: 3009
Location: Las Vegas

veer -

I would like to know that too.

 

Foy

No referral links and nothing embedded . . . ever.

                      &nbsp

taff
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 1 month ago
Joined: 09/30/2012 - 07:50
Posts: 62
Location: Wales - uk

Hello i`am new to BLF i like the look of this torch thinking of buying this torch will it be safe to and no issues

taff

scaru
scaru's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: 03/22/2012 - 13:36
Posts: 6946
Location: Virginia

Depends, are you planning on using a 26650 or AAs? AAs are very safe and 26650 can be dangerous. 

taff
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 1 month ago
Joined: 09/30/2012 - 07:50
Posts: 62
Location: Wales - uk

scaru wrote:

Depends, are you planning on using a 26650 or AAs? AAs are very safe and 26650 can be dangerous. 


I was planning to use 26650 ( dangerous ? )

taff

scaru
scaru's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: 03/22/2012 - 13:36
Posts: 6946
Location: Virginia

taff wrote:
scaru wrote:

Depends, are you planning on using a 26650 or AAs? AAs are very safe and 26650 can be dangerous. 

I was planning to use 26650 ( dangerous ? ) taff

Li-ion batteries can be dangerous if you use cheap batteries or cheap chargers. You also have to be willing to measure their voltage to keep them healthy. My personal recommnedation would be a Trustfire 5000 mah protected 26650 from CNQualityGoods along with an intellicharge I4. 

taff
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 1 month ago
Joined: 09/30/2012 - 07:50
Posts: 62
Location: Wales - uk

scaru wrote:

taff wrote:
scaru wrote:

Depends, are you planning on using a 26650 or AAs? AAs are very safe and 26650 can be dangerous. 

I was planning to use 26650 ( dangerous ? ) taff

Li-ion batteries can be dangerous if you use cheap batteries or cheap chargers. You also have to be willing to measure their voltage to keep them healthy. My personal recommnedation would be a Trustfire 5000 mah protected 26650 from CNQualityGoods along with an intellicharge I4. 


Thank-you for that
Haterade
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 3 months ago
Joined: 09/05/2012 - 20:36
Posts: 1561
Location: District of Corruption

Any news on current batches of these? Are they still having issues? How many are affected?

I like copper

weaver
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 5 months ago
Joined: 11/03/2012 - 20:00
Posts: 9
Location: Montana, United States

This looks like an interesting flashlight, especially considering the price, and I would buy one if it hadn’t been for the recent issues some have had with it. I would like to stick with AA’s, so I would be interested in what is the estimated output in lumens on high with 3 Eneloops compared to that obtained by using the lithium battery, which I assume is used to get the 910 lumens output.

Haterade
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 3 months ago
Joined: 09/05/2012 - 20:36
Posts: 1561
Location: District of Corruption
weaver wrote:
This looks like an interesting flashlight, especially considering the price, and I would buy one if it hadn’t been for the recent issues some have had with it.

You and me both bro

weaver wrote:
…I would be interested in what is the estimated output in lumens on high with 3 Eneloops compared to that obtained by using the lithium battery, which I assume is used to get the 910 lumens output.

You and me both bro

I like copper

texas shooter
Offline
Last seen: 31 min 18 sec ago
Joined: 08/26/2012 - 02:14
Posts: 1193
Location: Texas

It appears only slightly dimmer than with lithium’s. I get 1.85 amps on fresh Enloops and 2.81 amps with King Kongs.

Haterade
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 3 months ago
Joined: 09/05/2012 - 20:36
Posts: 1561
Location: District of Corruption

Thanks for the info tex. Smile

Would 3 LiFepo4 14500s (3.2v ea) be too much?

I like copper

texas shooter
Offline
Last seen: 31 min 18 sec ago
Joined: 08/26/2012 - 02:14
Posts: 1193
Location: Texas

You could rebuild the battery carrier to run parallel. 9.6v will be too much for this circuit board.

cainn
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 4 weeks ago
Joined: 05/26/2012 - 13:45
Posts: 998
Location: Melbourne, Australia
weaver wrote:
This looks like an interesting flashlight, especially considering the price, and I would buy one if it hadn’t been for the recent issues some have had with it. I would like to stick with AA’s, so I would be interested in what is the estimated output in lumens on high with 3 Eneloops compared to that obtained by using the lithium battery, which I assume is used to get the 910 lumens output.

It’s the AA carrier that is responsible for the reduced performance on NiMH. Too much resistance. But you can fix it up. Spend a couple of bucks on some better contact springs, solder them on, and you’ll have your Eneloops delivering the full 2.8 amps.

weaver
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 5 months ago
Joined: 11/03/2012 - 20:00
Posts: 9
Location: Montana, United States
texas shooter wrote:
It appears only slightly dimmer than with lithium’s. I get 1.85 amps on fresh Enloops and 2.81 amps with King Kongs.

Thanks for this info, Tex.

cainn wrote:
weaver wrote:
This looks like an interesting flashlight, especially considering the price, and I would buy one if it hadn’t been for the recent issues some have had with it. I would like to stick with AA’s, so I would be interested in what is the estimated output in lumens on high with 3 Eneloops compared to that obtained by using the lithium battery, which I assume is used to get the 910 lumens output.

It’s the AA carrier that is responsible for the reduced performance on NiMH. Too much resistance. But you can fix it up. Spend a couple of bucks on some better contact springs, solder them on, and you’ll have your Eneloops delivering the full 2.8 amps.

Thanks, cainn, that’s good to know, meaning that this component is easy to upgrade. Would be nice to find a finished one of higher quality. Alibaba and diytrade seem to have several, but sell only in larger quantities.

Haterade
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 3 months ago
Joined: 09/05/2012 - 20:36
Posts: 1561
Location: District of Corruption
cainn wrote:
It’s the AA carrier that is responsible for the reduced performance on NiMH. Too much resistance. But you can fix it up. Spend a couple of bucks on some better contact springs, solder them on, and you’ll have your Eneloops delivering the full 2.8 amps.

Nice! Thanks for the tip.

I like copper

garrybunk
garrybunk's picture
Offline
Last seen: 5 hours 10 min ago
Joined: 10/31/2011 - 09:25
Posts: 6048
Location: Johnstown, PA

I've come to the conclusion that at the $45 price tag of this Cyclone (+ $5 holster cost) the Jetbeam PA40 is a better buy for a few bucks more if you're not looking for max output. I don't own either, but researched for my co-workers use where they need significant output with good runtime, dependable, able to run on common cells (even alkalines in a pinch), and available in neutral white. 

-Garry

My Bike Lights Thread, Optics (TIR) Comparison Beamshots, Diffusion Techniques


NOTE: Moving my photos from PhotoBucket to Flickr. PM me or post in the thread if you can’t see my images and need me to fix or send a gallery link. PhotoBucket images should remain visible until November 2018.
cainn
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 4 weeks ago
Joined: 05/26/2012 - 13:45
Posts: 998
Location: Melbourne, Australia

You could always pick up a couple of these as well. I hate the white carrier. Black is sexier. Plus once you have a spare or two, you tend to become a little more deliciously reckless with your modding efforts Silly

scaru
scaru's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: 03/22/2012 - 13:36
Posts: 6946
Location: Virginia

cainn wrote:
You could always pick up a couple of "these":http://kaidomain.com/Product/Details.S003294 as well. I hate the white carrier. Black is sexier. Plus once you have a spare or two, you tend to become a little more deliciously reckless with your modding efforts :P

If you read the description they say theres are only good for up to 1 amp. 

cainn
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 4 weeks ago
Joined: 05/26/2012 - 13:45
Posts: 998
Location: Melbourne, Australia
scaru wrote:
If you read the description they say theres are only good for up to 1 amp.

I was just suggesting that ordering spares can be helpful for when you want to mod a carrier for high current use.

garrybunk
garrybunk's picture
Offline
Last seen: 5 hours 10 min ago
Joined: 10/31/2011 - 09:25
Posts: 6048
Location: Johnstown, PA

But you pick a few up and are cheap enough not to worry about messing them up and not having one that still works. 

-Garry

My Bike Lights Thread, Optics (TIR) Comparison Beamshots, Diffusion Techniques


NOTE: Moving my photos from PhotoBucket to Flickr. PM me or post in the thread if you can’t see my images and need me to fix or send a gallery link. PhotoBucket images should remain visible until November 2018.
Haterade
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 3 months ago
Joined: 09/05/2012 - 20:36
Posts: 1561
Location: District of Corruption
garrybunk wrote:

I’ve come to the conclusion that at the $45 price tag of this Cyclone (+ $5 holster cost) the Jetbeam PA40 is a better buy for a few bucks more if you’re not looking for max output. I don’t own either, but researched for my co-workers use where they need significant output with good runtime, dependable, able to run on common cells (even alkalines in a pinch), and available in neutral white. 

-Garry

Why is the pa40 better? Dependability?

I like copper

garrybunk
garrybunk's picture
Offline
Last seen: 5 hours 10 min ago
Joined: 10/31/2011 - 09:25
Posts: 6048
Location: Johnstown, PA

Well remember I don't own either light, but I believe it's a better build quality, can depend on it right out of the package (no issue with 3AA holder adding resistance), good modes, good runtime, a good respected brand name (probably warranty too). It's just not driven to the max. 

-Garry

My Bike Lights Thread, Optics (TIR) Comparison Beamshots, Diffusion Techniques


NOTE: Moving my photos from PhotoBucket to Flickr. PM me or post in the thread if you can’t see my images and need me to fix or send a gallery link. PhotoBucket images should remain visible until November 2018.
ChiggerPepi
ChiggerPepi's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 days 16 hours ago
Joined: 08/20/2012 - 19:32
Posts: 622
Location: Big Island, Hawaii

That PA40 looks like it’s very functional, and probably better quality… but it sure is ugly! Blech. Gimme the Cyclone!

Haterade
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 3 months ago
Joined: 09/05/2012 - 20:36
Posts: 1561
Location: District of Corruption
garrybunk wrote:

Well remember I don’t own either light, but I believe it’s a better build quality, can depend on it right out of the package (no issue with 3AA holder adding resistance), good modes, good runtime, a good respected brand name (probably warranty too). It’s just not driven to the max. 

-Garry

Makes sense. I figured that was what you meant.

The Fenix LD41 looks even better, but its a bit pricey.

I like copper

vēer
vēer's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 01/07/2012 - 14:23
Posts: 2838
Location: N Europe

Theres also Fenix E40 if you want something cheaper but still with some throw Wink

Haterade
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 3 months ago
Joined: 09/05/2012 - 20:36
Posts: 1561
Location: District of Corruption

Oh yeah LD40 and jetbeam PA40 are very similar. Both are good.

I really like the flat-ended tailstanding body of the LD41. Xml doesn’t hurt either. Smile I know this may seem like a trivial detail, but I try to only buy standers. Much more versatile. That’s just me.

I like copper

cainn
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 4 weeks ago
Joined: 05/26/2012 - 13:45
Posts: 998
Location: Melbourne, Australia

I don’t think it’s a trivial detail at all. I much prefer lights that tailstand myself, as they have additional utility.

Pages