Good EDC tool with pliers/wire cutters?

23 posts / 0 new
Last post
vēer
vēer's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 01/07/2012 - 14:23
Posts: 2838
Location: N Europe
Good EDC tool with pliers/wire cutters?

Hi folks!
I need SAK kind of tool with decent wire cutters or pliers, nothing big or too heavy, I wont be cutting anything too thick or heavy, but average wire max couple of mm thick is all I need it for.

Any suggestions for one made out of decent metal?
Budget is 40$ shipped.
Thanks!

kreisler
kreisler's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 3 weeks ago
Joined: 11/12/2011 - 23:32
Posts: 3992
Location: Deutcheland

for europaens there is no reasonable way of acquiring leatherman multitools at US-equivalent prices. ebay has LM's but the shipping always kills the deal (plus eventual customs clearance). for 40$, LM's (NEW condition) are out of the race from a EU inet shopper's perspective (any online purchase channel!). great MT's but too expensive. Vinox has only 2 MT's, the Spirit X and the Swisstool X, they sell on ebay for at least 40.00EUR plus shipping.

Exduct (BLF's main shopping site for budget knives i guess) has a representative selection of Ganzo-made Ganzo-branded multitools, some of which are locking .. but at the 40$ range i would prefer to buy a used MT by Vic or LM, and if the tools s*ck (loose joints, play, ..) get it fixed for free, see Vinox and LM lifetime warranty services.

( SOG and Gerber are not much loved in the community for various reasons )

If you really cant get past the 40$ limit, then i would save 30$ and spend 10$ on a budget MT by Ganzo. A fews ago our ALDI sold a Ganzo MT (model: Winchester, similar to Gerber Suspension) for 6.99EUR and i got it and i like it quite a bit. Great pliers (with wire cutter), great saw, great file. the rest is **** Wink

Another noteworthy company is Mammut Fine Tool Corp. Vectrex, Don, a.o. bought Mammut MT's..

check Don's thread for some great pointers!!

*FMI* i got 4 i/o sh
esrevenge
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 5 months ago
Joined: 05/25/2011 - 16:11
Posts: 1033
Location: Canada

vēer wrote:
Hi folks!
I need SAK kind of tool with decent wire cutters or pliers, nothing big or too heavy, I wont be cutting anything too thick or heavy, but average wire max couple of mm thick is all I need it for.

Any suggestions for one made out of decent metal?
Budget is 40$ shipped.
Thanks!

Quality tools you have to pay for. Id buy a Juice S2 (Im going to order one soon just have to decide on orange or grey). The reviews of it are all very good, and its not that large/bulky.

Price should be right at 40$.

scaru
scaru's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 1 month ago
Joined: 03/22/2012 - 13:36
Posts: 6946
Location: Virginia

As an official Leatherman junkie. I would highly recommend the juice s2 as said above. Or if want to spend a bit more the Wave. Smile

vēer
vēer's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 01/07/2012 - 14:23
Posts: 2838
Location: N Europe

It should be small and fit well in pocket, dont want to lug around too much weight.
Yeah, Juice seems good, I hoped that there might be something Swiss-made for that price.

Match
Match's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 9 months ago
Joined: 11/14/2010 - 11:57
Posts: 1488
Location: South Carolina, USA

+1 to what Kreisler said.

SOG and Gerber each have some good attributes, but overall just can’t compare to either Vic or LM (swisstool spirit and LM wave are both outstanding tools)

hank
hank's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 7 min ago
Joined: 09/04/2011 - 21:52
Posts: 8543
Location: Berkeley, California

M4 Sebertool; review here is about right. It’s great.
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=3088.0

esrevenge
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 5 months ago
Joined: 05/25/2011 - 16:11
Posts: 1033
Location: Canada
vēer wrote:
It should be small and fit well in pocket, dont want to lug around too much weight. Yeah, Juice seems good, I hoped that there might be something Swiss-made for that price.

Sorry I didnt see you were in the EU area. I thought you were in NorthAmerica region where these tools are cheaper.

Juice is nice because it is small, here is image beside the Swiss army knife you mentioned.

But I dont know where you can find one at a good price in your area. Sad

esrevenge
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 5 months ago
Joined: 05/25/2011 - 16:11
Posts: 1033
Location: Canada

Here is another picture I found on Google to show size. I always thought they were larger.

vēer
vēer's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 01/07/2012 - 14:23
Posts: 2838
Location: N Europe

And I thought – wow, a dude in Canada rides Škoda :D!

I remember looking at M4 EDC tools month or two ago, but cant remember where are they sold at?

travis
Offline
Last seen: 2 days 8 hours ago
Joined: 03/19/2012 - 23:54
Posts: 953
Location: SoCal

I have been very happy with my Leatherman Squirt E4—that’s the Electrician model with the wire strippers.
The Pliers—while tiny—grip very well—and have helped me extract broken keys from 2 locks.
Tiny tool with a solid build.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the

right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

chenko
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 2 hours ago
Joined: 05/28/2012 - 11:30
Posts: 612
Location: Italy

I strongly advise the Leatherman Skeletool.
Brilliant multitool! It clips in the front pocket of your pants or can be used with its carabiner thing (kinda unique), it has a decently sized blade you can open one-handed, and its pliers are awesome. Cable cutter is mighty: I cut tempered steel cable with that, teeth are really robust. Plus, you have 4 screwdriver bits in the less obtrusive form factor ever and you can open beers for the kicks :bigsmile:

raccoon city
raccoon city's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 19 min ago
Joined: 10/06/2010 - 02:35
Posts: 13770
Location: रॅकून सिटी Palm Desert CA USA

Welcome to the madness, chenko!

Best0270

Chenko

______________________

@vēer:  I have a Leatherman Squirt P4; it's pretty good.  But I wouldn't be surprised if the Leatherman Skeletool, Squirt E4, or Juice were better for your requirements.

vēer
vēer's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 01/07/2012 - 14:23
Posts: 2838
Location: N Europe

Just a little update, Im now looking more towards these models:
LM Rebar
LM ST 300 – love the black version-I need it to be discreet

…due to good reviews, durability and what makes me choose these out of other Leatherman tools is that you can replace wire cutters in these, which is really good feature!

Im still looking at others tho, because those two above are rather pricey even tho they have replaceable wire cutters.

ohmatt
ohmatt's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 7 months ago
Joined: 03/14/2012 - 15:18
Posts: 22
Location: Ohio

When I think of EDC, I think in my pocket. I can tell you that my full size Leathermans (classic, wave, blast) aren’t comfortable to carry in pockets, even in lower cargo pockets. While compact, a narrow one pound metal bar slapping against my thigh every step gets very annoying really quickly. Unless you are thinking of putting it on a belt sheath, consider one of the smaller ones.

I have tried the Squirt PS4, to get even lighter than the Juice. As many squirt owners find out, the scissor spring on these break. The tip on the Juice pliers is also nicer than the squirt – so I will be going back to the Juice.

- Matt –

Vectrex
Vectrex's picture
Offline
Last seen: 10 months 2 weeks ago
Joined: 05/01/2010 - 15:39
Posts: 2776
Location: Gemany (according to my Black Cat)

I own the Juice S2 and it's great but remember that the tools aren't lockable.

kreisler
kreisler's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 3 weeks ago
Joined: 11/12/2011 - 23:32
Posts: 3992
Location: Deutcheland

I use a horizontal belt sheath for vinox spirit. The tool has also got a pocket clip (Nite Ize) for eventual pocket carry. Both work fine for me as 1 day carry options.

EDC? you mean really 24/7 (except for bed time)? Eek.

I do EDC at least 1 flashlight (1x10440 on keychain, plus casually 1x14500 or 1x18650). If i had to EDC a MT, i'd probably go for juice, again with horizontal belt holster.

*FMI* i got 4 i/o sh
Lumatic
Lumatic's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 1 month ago
Joined: 08/23/2012 - 21:44
Posts: 997
Location: Carlsbad, CA

carry a Slip n’ Snip – still made in the U.S.A.

Amazing scissors that fold into themselves and cut finely into delicate areas like your nose and ear hairs. Big Smile Superb quality and inexpensive. I prefer the rounded-point model.

http://www.slipnsnip.com/

(The P4 Squirt with needle nose pliers rocks. IMO stand-alone scissors is the only way to go. I EDC everything except the lights in a Leatherman small holster.)

“When I buy something in bulk you should prolly buy at least one too.”…..“They that have light shall rule the night.”…..“Flashaholics feel depressed without darkness.”…….“I’m a very terminal torchaholic. My entire life just flashed before my eyes

hank
hank's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 7 min ago
Joined: 09/04/2011 - 21:52
Posts: 8543
Location: Berkeley, California

M4 Sebertool isn’t available any longer, unfortunately.
Damn shame. If anyone finds a bunch for sale I’d buy several to have spares.

Another company makes a cheap copy of it: “IDL Tools T10 Multitool”
you can find those from $16 online to twice that at Sears

Looks like cheaply made with hand tools:

— blade sharpened with a flat file on one side only, instead of a concave grind on both sides
— Philips screwdriver head shaped with a flat file, instead of concave grind (so doesn’t fit into small screws)
— blade locking buttons hand-peened leaving rough heads, instead of machine-pressed

Rufusbduck
Rufusbduck's picture
Offline
Last seen: 10 months 2 weeks ago
Joined: 04/04/2012 - 15:34
Posts: 10389
Location: Golden state

I like my Juice S2.

Three Tanna leaves to give him life, nine to give him movement. But what if he eats the whole bag?

Scott

vēer
vēer's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 01/07/2012 - 14:23
Posts: 2838
Location: N Europe

-Ive put my eyes on LM Wingman, what I like about is that its not the smallest multi tool, it has pliers, scissors and can opener.
I wonder how good the pliers are on this one, Im not planning to cut anything extraordinary thick on it, but you never know…- Looks like their pliers-wire cutters are not as good as on other LM’s, pitty, I liked the price and design.

Squirt PS4 looks good too, but it seems to be rather small and fragile even compared to Wingman.

Wave/Rebar/ST300 would be much better, but it means twice the cost and I dont want to spend that much at first.

Anyone can comment on Ganzo 200 series compared to some of the cheapest brand name alternatives from LM/SOG/Gerber?

I know, G301 is reccommended as the best alternative, its not small, its big and heavy, but somewhat the best out there from China and while not as good as LM, still best money can buy for 30$?

The thing is, I know you can get LM Wingman for 20$ in USA, so Im trying to find some online retailer who ships it outside USA and see if I can total it for 30$ shipped Big Smile

So far lovest Ive found is 39$ from Ebay, meh!

So, ahem, given that I need pliers to be sturdy enough and not break first time I use them, how are those G201/G202 Ganzos?

vēer
vēer's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 01/07/2012 - 14:23
Posts: 2838
Location: N Europe

…Allright, while were at it, can anyone comment on Victorinox Tinker Deluxe model?
It has pliers, Victorinox pliers are considerably smaller than those of other multi tools, but can anyone comment on their wire cutting abilities, how good are they at cutting different kinds of wires?
Yeah, Im asking much, sorry :D!

gords1001
gords1001's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 7 months ago
Joined: 05/07/2012 - 14:02
Posts: 5276
Location: wigan england

I’m hoping you get a good answer as I’m in Europe (well UK) too and thinking along the same lines.