Review: BALDER SE-2 (XM-L T6 / 1x18650)


Balder SE-2
LED: XM-L T6
Battery: 1x 18650
Modes: 3 (High-Mid-Low) with no memory. (2 strobes & 1 SOS in hidden second group of modes)
Switch: Forward (tailcap)
Price: $ 35
Date: May 2012
Links:
CNQG / ForoLinternas / old4570 review at BLF / RdL

PRESENTATION:
After the resounding success of the Balder SE-1 , one of the first XM-L flashlights powered by one AA battery, here comes the new SE-2 Balder.
The success of the first mentioned SE-1 plays against this new model, as it puts too high expectations.

The presentation is exactly equal to that found in the SE-1: Telescopic plastic box where in addition to the flashlight, we have a small card with instructions for use of the flashlight, and a set of spare O-rings, and an extra tailcap button.

EXTERIOR FINISH:
One of the things I liked about the SE-1 was its anodized. This SE-2 is equal or even better. Has exactly the same tone, with the finish HAIII high strength and rugged but refined touch that gives it so distinctive.

The machining is perfect, no marks or blemishes at sight. Continues the previous line and only has a logo on the base of the head, identical to that found in the SE-1, with the web address of the manufacturer.

The shape is quite characteristic, along the lines of the range. Bears some resemblance to the Balder BD-2 , but more austere.

The walls are thick, giving the impression of being highly resistant to abuse. The threads are perfectly machined, and came lightly greased.

Divided into 3 sections typical in the head have a generous OP reflector threaded inside, sandwiching the glass lens and o-ring. The reflector passes only the dome of the XM-L for its opening, being perfectly centered.

In the tube, the pill is threaded from the top. This piece is machined aluminum, and contains in its upper part the XM-L 16mm PCB, which is secured by a plastic ring, and has applied a silicone layer to improve heat dissipation. On the opposite side, have the regulator circuit with a diameter of 20mm. Inside the tube there is a threaded disk of plastic, which lies between the battery and the circuit, and having a spring with a coating, to ensure contact with the positive pole of the 18650.

Outside the tube found a clip similar to her younger sister. This clip is fixed in a groove specifically for this, and allows their removal.

Finally, in the tail cap forward switch have totally removable.
The silicone coating stands just a couple of millimeters on the profile of the cap, which unfortunately does not allow us to pose the flashlight candle mode.

OPERATION:
The flashlight has three modes, High-Medium-Low with no memory, just as if younger sister. To select the mode, using a push forward, we need to gently press and release without actually taking the click until the desired mode, then press all the way to fix it with the click of the switch.

There is a group of hidden modes , in addition to the 3 modes already mentioned, has two strobes, one fast and one with interruptions, as well as a last SOS. Besides this group if you have memory and remembers the last selected mode. To enter this group of modes, we must do the following:
Select the Low mode, and we expect about 4 seconds. We will see that the flashlight does a little flicker, and then we have to turn it off quickly. When we turn it on again in the second group. Repeat the operation to return to the main group.

Given the high consumption mode, the intensity distribution would be approximately as follows:

  • 100% - 20% - 3%

CURRENT DRAWS AND BATTERY LIFE:

Panasonic Li-Ion NCR18650A 3100mAh@4.2V:

  • High: 2600mA
  • Medium: 550mA
  • Low: 80mA

To measure the runtime and regulation I used the Panasonic 3100mAh NCR18650A:

We can see that in the high mode, the flashlight starts demanding about 3 amps, but gradually stabilizes at 2.4 amps, keeping almost linear for about 30 minutes. At this point, the battery voltage is already below the 3.65 V, and the regulation disappears, behaving as if here direct drive. At this point, the lamp blinks for about warning us that goes into “unregulated” and is increasingly demanding as the voltage drops, and consequently reducing its light output. Upon reaching the 3V battery, a low voltage warning comes on the scene, making an odd-shaped ramp signal progressing from more to less and less to more, indicating that it is time to replace the 18650 by another fresh.

In medium mode, we even have a better regulation:

Start consuming 0.5 amperes, and gradually demanding more, to compensate for voltage drop. After an impressive 285 minutes (4 hours and 45 minutes), the protection system comes into play. With almost 5 hours of continuous light at about 170 lumens, this mode provides excellent performance and high efficiency, not seen in similar budget flashlights.

I did not notice the flicker produced by the PWM, seen in the SE-1 especially in the lowest mode.

BEAMSHOTS:

With increased reflector, the SE-2 abandons the concept of total flooding achieved in the SE-1, concentrating the light at a central point, but still with a generous spill around.


PERSONAL CONCLUSION:
Balder, despite being a relatively young brand, this surprising really care products and excellent value for money. When inspecting the new SE-2 one notices that Balder as have spared no effort in maximizing the resources available to build the best possible flashlight within your price range.

As I mentioned earlier, the resounding success of the SE-1 played against this new Balder, putting the bar very high. Well, as you will have guessed, this SE-2 not only equals that mark, but it improved as it incorporates improvements so far unseen in flashlights in its class.
Special mention to regulation, never seen in this price range flashlights.

:smiley: I like:

  • Excellent regulation.
  • Outstanding mechanical quality.
  • Surprisingly high efficiency.

:frowning: I dislike:

  • Can’t tailstand.

P.S: Sorry for my poor english :weary:

Great review! Thanks!

Thank you very much the
I feel very sorry to have this bad english, hope you undestand all 0:)

There's nothing wrong in your English. Even if it wouldn't be perfect, we can understand everything you say.

And your English is getting better and better all the time! :)

Thanks for the nice review UPz and your English is great. Good to hear you found the hidden strobe mode - earlier reviews I've seen did not reference it. Other than external styling, this light appears to be almost exactly the same performance-wise with the BD-2 (one of my favorite lights), but at a budget friendly price. I like the clean looks, it's definitely on my short list.

Wonderful review and professional looking layout tells me that a lot of time and effort went into this. Thank you for that.
This revies is the first that makes me want to own a Balcder flashlight so I guess that the effort is not wated at all. And no worries about your english. It seems fine to a danish guy :wink:

TY UPz

Thanks for the reviews & pics. Is this version 1 or 2?

Wonderful review, thx UPz. I think it is version 2, which has the same UI as BD-2. I myself have a version 1, which low lumen just 2lumen and i’d love it

another light with momentary activation that changes modes as you do momentary activation LOL

I just thought the same thing. With a better UI I could imagine buying this.

Anyway, thanks for the detailed review!

Thank you all for your kind words.

@my9221:
Yes, it’s version 2 of the SE-2. In fact, at forolinternas we had discovered that it comes with the same driver of the BD-2.

Thanks so much for the review! Well done. Frontpage’d and Sticky’d.

very nice! thanks

Anyone have this and the Ultrafire UF-T50? Curious how they compare, seem to be similar in size and output but I bet the Balder is better built.

If I understand correctly:

- the main set of modes has 3 modes (H, M, L) with no memory

  • the hidden set of modes has 6 modes (H, M, L, Strobe, Alarm Strobe, SOS) with memory

CNQG currently sells 2 versions of this light, and you have to choose whether you want 3-mode or 6-mode. They mention nothing about either having a “hidden set” of modes.

Are either of these the one in this review? Or is CNQG selling updated (again) versions?

This is my first post on BLF, so I say Hello!
I’ve bought SE-2 after reading this review. Compared it with other (modded) lights available in my country in the same price range, and I have to say that build quality and light output is very good.
It was bought on 09.2012 from CNQG. However I can’t access the hidden modes:( how can I find out if it’s the old or the new, better regulated one?
Tried both ways:

  1. switch to Low mode (still holding the button, no click), switch off after 4-5sec, then switch on
  2. switch to Low mode with “click” (without holding the button), swich off, switch on

Welcome to BLF, ffrruu! I don't own the SE-2, but I do have the BD-2, which has the hidden mode feature. Here's the instructions from Balder to access:

HIDDEN MODES

Turn the light on low, wait 5 seconds it will blink, turn the light off. Then immediately turn it back on, it will activate constant strobe, intermittent strobe and SOS.

These hidden modes remain available until the activation sequence is repeated.

With hidden modes activated the light sequence is:
Strobe, Intermittent strobe, SOS, high, medium, low.

I would say if your light doesn't blink once in Low, you don't have the newer version. I hope this helps.

Ok,thanks. Mine doesn’t blink. Only when battery goes low (i think so).
I don’t want to make charges so fast, but before purchase I asked cnqualitygood which version do they send, and they told me the second one.
How can I check it? I was hunting for the best value light so long, I choosed SE-2 rev2, and got rev1?? :frowning:
I have to order BD2 for a gift, but don’t want to do business with someone who lied to me. Need to be sure.

FWIW, I think there are multiple revisions of the SE-2.

See the Balder SE-2 revision 1 review by old4570:

See the Balder SE-2 revision 2 review by old4570:

And then of course, there is the version/revision with the hidden modes (and possibly even better regulation) reviewed by UPz in this thread.

From reading about Balder, they seem to constantly be updating their torches, though it would be nice if they got it right the first time.