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Which ones to get - General, Thrower, EDC? Budget it is

Hey all. I'm sure this is the most frequently asked question in the world of flashlights. Which ones should I get?

I'm looking to start off my flashlights collection but isn't sure which ones to get, I need an EDC in my pocket, a thrower-doesn't have to be a dedicated, and a general all rounder. I have lots of rechargeables AA/AAA lying around and some Sanyo eneloops too. I guess they are compatible with all the lights below? So AAs are the way to start for me at least at this stage.

These are the ones that I have scoured the web.

General:
UniqueFire AA-S1 - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.24220~r.42865677
Akoray K-106 Cree Q5 - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.28546
Romisen MXDL RC-G2 - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3607 OR
Romisen RC-G2 II Cree XPG-R5 - http://www.shiningbeam.com/servlet/the-149/**NEW**-Romisen-RC-dsh-G2-II/...
TrustFire R5-A3 Cree XP-E-R5 - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.39062
UltraFire A10 HA-III Cree Q5 - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.19187

Thrower:
SIPIK SK68 Cree Q3 - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.39585
C78 Flood-to-Throw Zooming Cree Q3 - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.29095
Romisen RC-29 II R2 - http://www.shiningbeam.com/servlet/the-233/**NEW**-Romisen-RC-dsh-29-II/...

EDC (I believe durability is important here?):
ITP A3 EOS XP-E Q5 from SB or R5 from GG. Or wait till R5 becomes widely available and get the Q5?

Thanks and much appreciated. Cheers.

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I would go for:

UniqueFire AA-S1 - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.24220~r.42865677 

SIPIK SK68 Cree Q3 - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.39585 

I find both worthy of EDC and if oyu manage to lose or destroy one, isn't worth a tar drop.

None of them have modes. I you want modes give a try to this one perhaps:

http://www.lightake.com/detail.do/sku.UltraFire_C3_Stainless_Steel_Cree_...

This is one i don't have yet but sooner or later will arrive. Could be your EDC since it's made of stainless steel and should be relatively tough. Keep in mind that would also be heavier if that is of your concern.

With time you will eventually get more according to your particular needs.

 

My reasoning is that my EDC of choice would be one i could not worry much about it if gets somehow lost or damaged beyond repair. However if your ECD is mission critical look for a fenix or ITP perhaps.

 

 


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Shiningbeam's lights mostly make sense for those in the USA, shipping to Australia might be a lot. That said, they have a good reputation. A lot of people like the RC-G2 though I don't, I find the pencil beam annoying. The Trustfire R5-A3 is a light I like a lot but it really needs a 14500 rather than an AA to give of its best. It'll work fire with Eneloops but will be very hard on alkalines and not perform all that well.

I do like the AA-S1 and it or the R5-A3 would be the two I'd look at more closely.

The ITP A3EOS is a nice little light, I have one attached to my house keys, I'd also look at the MrLite KC-50 and the Tank007 TK-703 which are also nice AAA lights. If you don't need that much output, the Fenix E01 is also worth looking at. I keep one of those on my work keyring.

 

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Hi there Skulless, thanks for asking!

1xAA is always a great choice in budget lights, especially for your first purchases. Do you have any preferences in number of modes or ability to tailstand? I could recommend a few to you based on those criterion.

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Go for the AA S1 or the SK-68. The first one have a very floody nicecolored beam. 

The latter is very versatile with its flood to throw capabillity.

With a 14500 battery they both are amazing, but wil do nicely as EDC with an AA.

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Having owned the aa-s1, rc-g2, rc-29, and C78 I can say that for me personally it would be between the C78 or rc-g2.  I had very bad luck with my aa-s1, so much so that even now that I got it working better than stock I just let the kids play with  it (Note to fans...I know my case is/was rare...meh...).  

The RC-29 I actually ordered from Shiningbeam, having had good luck with other lights from him.  I have to say...I want to like this light, but I dont.  For starters, even though it's supposedly upgraded, I'd put it about par with the C78 both on alkalines.  Now, if we up the ante to the C78 on 14500's, it's not even close (rc-29 can't take li-ion...).  Add to that I find the twist to zoom annoying and tedious.  It's too bad, because the build quality on the romisen blows the C78 away....

The rc-g2 on the other hand I really like.  So much so that I gifted it to my father for christmas this year (He loves it, and I ordered another).  If you get one, I'd probably save some money and order it from DX or the like.  Half the price of the shiningbeam one and probably unnoticeable brightness (just a guess going off the rc-29).

Seeing as you wanted a thrower, I'd say the rc-29 or one of the flood-to-throws....

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I don't really have a preference for any of them but I'm leaning towards just NiMhs at this stage of time, I guess I would move slowly into the Li-ion category as my knowledge progresses. I guess the ones that perform best with just NiMhs would be preferred. Thanks for all your quick reply. I posted about the same thing at CLF 2 days ago, but I guess my new thread is still being moderated or thrown out.

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Match wrote:

(rc-29 can't take li-ion...).  

The rc-g2 on the other hand I really like.  


RC-29 take li-ons here: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.50679

The g2 is a very good light on AA, so it should be considered too.

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Just my opinion..I don't like the AA-S1.. The color of the beam is so dark it's not warm it's ...blah ...I bought the 1 mode that most have suggested to avoid problems people have had with the 5 modes  and really don't like single mode AA lights .Not impressed and it's a flood anyway .  You also mentioned the itp and after buying one on christmas .already i know i don't like it . too small too smooth ,terrible PWM,< really really bad  on low and med .. i do like the mode selection .. med,low ,high ..that's smart .

 I would give  a huge thumbs up to a tank 703 .. i like 701's as well as long as you by the U 1 not the T 2 i like the soft colors on the ssc u and t's but they are again a flood where the 703 is a throw .

No one talks about maratac and I wonder if they are just not considered a budget light ..I like knurling  ..One reason i don't like the itp too slick and stupid keyring

You're talking about xpg-r5  but i thought they were generally more flood and you were talking about looking for throw .

I think all xre emitters throw like all get out . the biggest thrower is the xpe-r2 . the differences of the amount of light matters much less than other  attributes 120 lumens vs. 160 is pretty meaningless .remember your eye adjusts to anything ,and to actually think you see a light become twice as bright you have to quadrupale  the lumens .(has to do with a scary inverse square law ...damn science )http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/forces/isq.html

So i'd buy what you like the feel of  and what color beam you like .Maybe look for a way to move things you don't like along quickly  so you can keep what YOU like and dump the rest . I have 5 flood to throws and they are just a gimmick light ..they are wickedly addictive meaning you can't stop playing with them or you'll go blind .....it's a biggest bang for your buck light and maybe easiest to resell since there is the elusive perfect flood to throw  light .. I know I have one it's a p4 I think ..looks like a x2000..

My last peice of advice ...go buy a sunwayman v10AA right now 82$...2 years from now someone will be begging you to take 50$  for it and it will be the best 30$ you ever spend on a flashlight

opps ...and buy a tank......any tank ..that's just simple

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Nautic wrote:

RC-29 take li-ons here: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.50679

The g2 is a very good light on AA, so it should be considered too.

I should have wrote "My RC-29 can't take li-ions...."  It's the one from shiningbeam with a different emitter and driver.

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Boaz wrote:

Just my opinion..I don't like the AA-S1.. The color of the beam is so dark it's not warm it's ...blah ...I bought the 1 mode that most have suggested to avoid problems people have had with the 5 modes  

 

A 5-mode AA S1? Where have you seen that??

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I like the Sk68.  Great light, you really need 14500s to get the most out of it, though I think it's a step head of both the C78 (bad tailswitch) and the Romisen you listed (no support for 14500s).

As for EDC, the ITP A3 EOS Upgrade is nice, I also like the Mr Lite KC-05 from Lightake - similiar form factor though slightly larger.  Somewhat frustrating UI, though.

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Budget AA , Trustfire F20 , the one I got from LT was very nice .. [ Still is ] 

Just picked up a Tank007 566 . also nice , DX

Mr.Lite J4 or Y4 [ maybe not so budget ] LT - Manafont 

ITP A2 3 mode [ must get one myself ] I have the Maratac .  

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Thanks for all your inputs guys. It's been a crazy 24 hrs for my area. It's flash flooding everywhere, nearly all roads out/in nearby are closed due to floods etc. I'm not affected yet, praying hard not, but all those people, I feel for them. Heard on the radio that electricity will be cut off tomorrow morning.

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skulless wrote:

 Heard on the radio that electricity will be cut off tomorrow morning.

 

You´ll badly need some flashlights and many bateries then.

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i prefer the trustfire R5-a3.

tons of light when u need it, and a great low!

 

also has great threading and feels uber solid in your hands!!!!

it has good throw too, so that could cover your throw category.

and its size and weight (not to mention ability to run on AA in an emergency, tho i prefer the sheer output on 14500) make it a perfect EDC. its durable, and your not gonna beat it for the money

 

hands down, for the money, the R5-a3 is the BEST flashlight in that list.

its bright, its usable, its got great throw AND spread.  and on low, it would run for DAYS!

at least the ones i got lol

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xP.1337 wrote:

i prefer the trustfire R5-a3.

tons of light when u need it, and a great low!

also has great threading and feels uber solid in your hands!!!!

it has good throw too, so that could cover your throw category.

and its size and weight (not to mention ability to run on AA in an emergency, tho i prefer the sheer output on 14500) make it a perfect EDC. its durable, and your not gonna beat it for the money

hands down, for the money, the R5-a3 is the BEST flashlight in that list.

its bright, its usable, its got great throw AND spread.  and on low, it would run for DAYS!

at least the ones i got lol

Do you get a commision from the sales of the TrustFire R5-A3? Surprised  After reading your post, I'm about ready to buy a dozen of them.  Wink  Just joking. Laughing

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Hi xP.1337,

I'd like to know where you bought the R5-A3. Mine definitely does not have a great low mode, rather it is blindingly bright on low and lasts barely 1 hour.

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sb56637 wrote:

Hi xP.1337,

I'd like to know where you bought the R5-A3. Mine definitely does not have a great low mode, rather it is blindingly bright on low and lasts barely 1 hour.


Earlier versions came with Hi Med Strobe. Latter with Hi Lo Strobe

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Thanks guys. This will be handy to newbies on the forum as well I guess.After much consideration, I've decided to go for

UniqueFire AA-S1
TrustFire R5-A3
SIPIK SK68

For 14500 batteries, are these the best on DX and they should work fine?
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26124~r.43033281

I think 3 is more than enough for me at this stage, my next purchase should be the li-on batteries, chargers and brighter and better lights Tongue out

p/s Don - I forgot to reply to your post, SB does ship to Aust for $6 flat.

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That 14500 are the best

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Good choices!  I would ask though, do you have a charger for your Lithium-Ions?  That's something to take in to account.

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i got all 4 (1 was a gift, 2 were for sale, but then ended up selling mine, havent had a chance to buy another but will be buying another for sure!)

from DX, love it to death. tho my custom XM-L in an Aurora V6 is by far my new favorite EDC!!!

if you can do it, get the XM-L, a good driver, and a solid 18650, and the Aurora V6 body of course Big Smile

problem is some light is lost by the reflector, oh well! still twice as bright as my modded P7-C from Aurora. (replaced with shining beam driver)

worth the loss of light if you ask me!!!

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Thanks Fran82.

I don't have a charger yet for Li-on cause I don't have any Li-on batteries yet. I'm inclined to order everything in 1 order from DX given their shipping reputation, plus CNY coming up soon, I hope mine will be delivered before then, if not, it'll take forever.

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fran82 wrote:

sb56637 wrote:

Hi xP.1337,

I'd like to know where you bought the R5-A3. Mine definitely does not have a great low mode, rather it is blindingly bright on low and lasts barely 1 hour.


Earlier versions came with Hi Med Strobe. Latter with Hi Lo Strobe

Ah! Thanks Fran, I didn't know that. Who sells the Hi-Lo-Strobe version?

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DX does now

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I got the lights today. Took 2 weeks from DX, pretty quick I must say.

UniqueFire AA-S1 - Nice smooth beam but the least bright among these 4.
TrustFire R5-A3 - Definitely the brightest of all.
SIPIK SK68 - Good throw.
Tank TK-703 - This little tank is so bright. Brighter than S1.

Amont the 3 AA lights, do you guys recommend to use it on 14500? Would it burn out the led over time?

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Don't know about the Sipik, but the other AA lights only see 14500 use with me. They don't seem to suffer from it. I've had the R5-A3 since it was announced, and the AA-S1 for several years so if they were going to burn up they would have by now.

 

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UniqueFire AA-S1 - Nice smooth beam but the least bright among these 4.
  On a 14500 this guy gets very bright .. the numbers a lot of times look like that .. older lights didn't take the  higher voltage and were set up to run hard on a AA at 1.5 v  when they made them run on both AA &14500... lots of people started whining about the light wasn't the same and wasn't as strong ..BUT when they put the 14500 in it tore it up .. so in some cases it's give a little take a little .. try the 14500 in the aa-s-1 .. it's alot brighter .. like twice as bright .

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Numbers

These are lumens output at 0, 30 and 120 seconds. Runtime is not enormous with 14500s but it is very bright.

 

Uniquefire AA-S1 Li Primary 90 80 82

Uniquefire AA-S1 AA NiMH 101 100 95

Uniquefire AA-S1 14500 225 212 208

 

 

The Trustfire R5-A3 gives just shy of 300 lumens (292) with a 14500 and just over a third of that with NiMH.(117) - I have an early one with the very high "low"

 

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 double the lumens doesn't mean twice as bright .. Your eye or brain or whatever will not percieve it as  double .. it won't look twice as bright .. but you will say .. damn !

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