I don't own a P60, looking to get a Solarforce to remedy that.

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I don't own a P60, looking to get a Solarforce to remedy that.

So, like the title says, looking to get a Solarforce host with the Manafont Ultrafire or IO Copper U2 drop-in. I am not sure what all the different models are, but from looking at it the L2P looks like what I want. Even though I pretty much never use a flashlight tailstanding I do prefer recessed clickies so that’s why the L2P catches my eye but again, if someone can explain the options and different models I may go a different route.

Also, which drop in, Manafont or I-O?

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Whoa...we gotta get you with the program,lol,If I were to reccommend,it would be a l2t host with a l2 s9 tailcap for tail standing purposes.The drop in is a tough call,I have both and prefer the i.o. one for the fact that I hate bad PWM and the manafont drop in on low is horrible.The manafont drop in is a great value and the brightest one I have and the i.o. drop in is 3 amp xml u2 and is pure white light.Both heat up a host very quickly,but in the p60 format it's not a surprise.If you want solarforce advice,foy is the solarforce guru here but I thought I'd throw a few of my likes at you.

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If you prefer the L2P you have you make sure you order the one that says tailstands and reverse clicky in the description if you want those 2 options. I like the looks of the L2P better than my L2T also the L2M is a really good deal also if you want more battery options.

Black tailstanding reverse clicky here

http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FB&s=7&id...

If you are sensitive to PWN or planning on using powerful batteries I would stay away from the manafont drop in. It will pull up to 5 amps with good batteries and has horrible PWN in the 2 lower modes.

I can’t comment on the IO drop in I don’t own one, but I have heard good things.

I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

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If you prefer the L2P you have you make sure you order the one that says tailstands and reverse clicky in the description if you want those 2 options. I like the looks of the L2P better than my L2T also the L2M is a really good deal also if you want more battery options.

Black tailstanding reverse clicky here

http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FB&s=7&id...

If you are sensitive to PWN or planning on using powerful batteries I would stay away from the manafont drop in. It will pull up to 5 amps with good batteries and has horrible PWN in the 2 lower modes.

I can’t comment on the IO drop in I don’t own one, but I have heard good things.


Exactly the one I was looking at. How much is a E1320 3+ amp U2 1A XM-L drop-in? Smile
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If you prefer the L2P you have you make sure you order the one that says tailstands and reverse clicky in the description if you want those 2 options. I like the looks of the L2P better than my L2T also the L2M is a really good deal also if you want more battery options.

Black tailstanding reverse clicky here

http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FB&s=7&id...

If you are sensitive to PWN or planning on using powerful batteries I would stay away from the manafont drop in. It will pull up to 5 amps with good batteries and has horrible PWN in the 2 lower modes.

I can’t comment on the IO drop in I don’t own one, but I have heard good things.


Exactly the one I was looking at. How much is a E1320 3+ amp U2 1A XM-L drop-in? Smile

$28 plus shipping usually $33 in the US and a little more outside.

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bose301s wrote:
I could order a normal L2 host and add this http://www.lighthound.com/Solar-Force-L2-Stainless-Bezel-Ring_p_3811.html

and this http://www.lighthound.com/Solar-Force-L2-Tailcap-with-Forward-Click-Swit... to trick it out, right?

Yeah that’ll definitely work. You should be aware though that tall-crown strike bezels block OTF lumens on these lights. Its about a 10 Lumen reduction on an XRE module. It will be slightly more though for the large die, floody drop ins. The height of the bezel obstructs side-most emitted lumens, and creates a narrower field. It doesn’t affect the hot spot intensity though.

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I could order a normal L2 host and add this http://www.lighthound.com/Solar-Force-L2-Stainless-Bezel-Ring_p_3811.html

and this http://www.lighthound.com/Solar-Force-L2-Tailcap-with-Forward-Click-Swit... to trick it out, right?

Yeah that’ll definitely work. You should be aware though that tall-crown strike bezels block OTF lumens on these lights. Its about a 10 Lumen reduction on an XRE module. It will be slightly more though for the large die, floody drop ins. The height of the bezel obstructs side-most emitted lumens, and creates a narrower field. It doesn’t affect the hot spot intensity though.


Ah, and flood is what I want. Would this slightly less crenelated bezel be better? http://www.lighthound.com/Solarforce-Stainless-Steel-Slight-Crenelated-B...

Could always get a smooth bezel otherwise http://www.lighthound.com/Solarforce-Stainless-Steel-Retaining-Ring-for-...

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Solarforce L2P + E1320 P60 drop-in.   

 

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Haha, EXACTLY what I was going to build by buying the parts, cheaper this way.
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I dont like SS bezels.. but I only have one Solarforce, my blue L2P. And imo the L2P is really worth it.. the clicky just feels great.

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bose301s wrote:
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bose301s wrote:
I could order a normal L2 host and add this http://www.lighthound.com/Solar-Force-L2-Stainless-Bezel-Ring_p_3811.html

and this http://www.lighthound.com/Solar-Force-L2-Tailcap-with-Forward-Click-Swit... to trick it out, right?

Yeah that’ll definitely work. You should be aware though that tall-crown strike bezels block OTF lumens on these lights. Its about a 10 Lumen reduction on an XRE module. It will be slightly more though for the large die, floody drop ins. The height of the bezel obstructs side-most emitted lumens, and creates a narrower field. It doesn’t affect the hot spot intensity though.


Ah, and flood is what I want. Would this slightly less crenelated bezel be better? http://www.lighthound.com/Solarforce-Stainless-Steel-Slight-Crenelated-B...

Could always get a smooth bezel otherwise http://www.lighthound.com/Solarforce-Stainless-Steel-Retaining-Ring-for-...

Hmm I’m not sure about that mid-height bezel. I would imagine with a large die XML it would block a noticeable amount. I have never seen a deep bezel that didn’t obstruct at least a little.

My worst offender is the SF-M2, it blocks as much as 20 Lumens with the malkoff flood modules. Its not so much the lumen drop thats noticeable, its the narrower field of vision. An inch or two reduction here or there on a white wall isn’t really that noticeable until you get them out in the field then its like WOW… tunnel effect. So I use my lowest profile bezel with the Malkoff, so it still spills out to the far sides. The G2 and M2 are used with incan modules. The incan lamp filament is forward enough to help clear the deep bezel on these lights.

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E1320 wrote:
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If you prefer the L2P you have you make sure you order the one that says tailstands and reverse clicky in the description if you want those 2 options. I like the looks of the L2P better than my L2T also the L2M is a really good deal also if you want more battery options.

Black tailstanding reverse clicky here

http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FB&s=7&id...

If you are sensitive to PWN or planning on using powerful batteries I would stay away from the manafont drop in. It will pull up to 5 amps with good batteries and has horrible PWN in the 2 lower modes.

I can’t comment on the IO drop in I don’t own one, but I have heard good things.


Exactly the one I was looking at. How much is a E1320 3+ amp U2 1A XM-L drop-in? Smile

$28 plus shipping usually $33 in the US and a little more outside.

OOOOOhhh! Got this combo and love it. +1 here!!!!

Thier ain’t no bones in a hot dog. F. York

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kramer5150 wrote:
bose301s wrote:
I could order a normal L2 host and add this http://www.lighthound.com/Solar-Force-L2-Stainless-Bezel-Ring_p_3811.html

and this http://www.lighthound.com/Solar-Force-L2-Tailcap-with-Forward-Click-Swit... to trick it out, right?

Yeah that’ll definitely work. You should be aware though that tall-crown strike bezels block OTF lumens on these lights. Its about a 10 Lumen reduction on an XRE module. It will be slightly more though for the large die, floody drop ins. The height of the bezel obstructs side-most emitted lumens, and creates a narrower field. It doesn’t affect the hot spot intensity though.

I personally have that strike bezel and this particular one DOES NOT obstruct the beam at all.

Thier ain’t no bones in a hot dog. F. York

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E1320 wrote:
If you prefer the L2P you have you make sure you order the one that says tailstands and reverse clicky in the description if you want those 2 options. I like the looks of the L2P better than my L2T also the L2M is a really good deal also if you want more battery options. Black tailstanding reverse clicky here http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FB&s=7&id... If you are sensitive to PWN or planning on using powerful batteries I would stay away from the manafont drop in. It will pull up to 5 amps with good batteries and has horrible PWN in the 2 lower modes. I can't comment on the IO drop in I don't own one, but I have heard good things.

This is the one I have, and the next one I plan to get is the same thing in grey: http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FB&s=7&id...

I'm happy with the MF drop-in as it's very bright cool white and a good throw/flood combo, that and the reverse clicky are great for cycling. One of E's or the IO version will be my next drop-in. I love the 5 mode in the UF2100 that Erik built up.

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i looked at a few SF links here and most of them weren't clear if the drop-in is included or not.  if you already have a p60 pill and are still waiting for any host, here's one to keep you busy while you wait. 

$4 for a complete xenon 501b.  www.ebay.com/itm/261026706159.   at time of this post he has 15 left.  as fleabay deals go, this one will be gone in a blink.  add a $5 xre p60 pill, and you have a $9 complete swappable backup for the solarforce.  i don't know anything about this seller, just posting a good deal.   Smile

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AAx3 wrote:

i looked at a few SF links here and most of them weren't clear if the drop-in is included or not.  if you already have a p60 pill and are still waiting for any host, here's one to keep you busy while you wait. 

$4 for a complete xenon 501b.  www.ebay.com/itm/261026706159  .   at time of this post he has 15 left.  as fleabay deals go, this one will be gone in a blink.  add a $5 xre p60 pill, and you have a $9 complete swappable backup for the solarforce.  i don't know anything about this seller, just posting a good deal.   Smile

Listing already removed. Must have been a hot deal!

EDIT: Now back at $3.99!

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http://www.customlites.com/P60-Nichia-NVSL219-4500k-92-CRI-P60-Nich-92cri.htm

Been thinking about getting this. Maybe something to look in to. IIRC, these are also current controlled.

Zebralight S6330 – Zebralight SC600w – Zebralight SC52 – Zebralight SC51w – EagleTac D25A Ti 219 – 4Sevens Quark Turbo AA2 219 – FourSevens Preon PenLight -

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For $29 complete, you might want to consider the Blaze at Shinigbeam

Rats, finally sold my 2010 509hp Mustang...now I can buy more lights!

Sold the red one too! Now guess what I drive, doing my penance for 500 hp commuters...

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More than 10 available / 38 sold Flat Stare Check history (click on “38 sold”) and you will see that the first light was sold “May-31-12 20:35:51 PDT”.

As for SF – all links here are body/hosts only (without drop-ins).

EDIT: 40 bucks for Nichia drop-in? Those spring and pill must be made of gold :bigsmile:

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http://www.customlites.com/P60-Nichia-NVSL219-4500k-92-CRI-P60-Nich-92cri.htm

Been thinking about getting this. Maybe something to look in to. IIRC, these are also current controlled.

I have some Nichia 219s, the same drivers and the same reflectors except mine are $30 shipped and you have more mode choices.

I have one in my beside light L2M with a 2 amp 5 mode 1 lumen low and a forward clicky for sneaking to the bathroom at night without waking up my girl. I have another in an AA host as my EDC have been testing for a while. It is really impressive how much more the colors show up with one of these, the only thing that comes close in color rendition is the 7B XMLs I have.

———————4B XPG—————————- 4C XPG —————————-Nichia 219

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They’re like Lays potato chips; “you can’t stop at just one!” You could build a substantial collection of just SolarForce L2 series lights and variants/ accessories. BTW, the Nichia 219 drop-ins that Dave [NailBender] sells are top notch and worth every $$ spent.

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bose301s wrote:
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And ordered.

Nice!


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They’re like Lays potato chips; “you can’t stop at just one!” You could build a substantial collection of just SolarForce L2 series lights and variants/ accessories. BTW, the Nichia 219 drop-ins that Dave [NailBender] sells are top notch and worth every $$ spent.

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They’re like Lays potato chips; “you can’t stop at just one!” You could build a substantial collection of just SolarForce L2 series lights and variants/ accessories. BTW, the Nichia 219 drop-ins that Dave [NailBender] sells are top notch and worth every $$ spent.

I build the exact same drop ins as Dave(nailbender) same driver, same emitter, same reflector, plus I offer more mode options for $10 dollars less. I don’t see why you would spend the extra money for an identical product with less mode options.

Nichia 219 with the 1 lumen candle mode in an L2M host

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I know this is going to sound like I'm waving the flag for a friend but for the life of me, I can't understand paying more for a Nailbender.  Erik, maybe you need to double your prices and don't offer any custom choices.  Perhaps then your drop-in will be worthy for the moneyed few.

 

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I know this is going to sound like I’m waving the flag for a friend but for the life of me, I can’t understand paying more for a Nailbender.  Erik, maybe you need to double your prices and don’t offer any custom choices.  Perhaps then your drop-in will be worthy for the moneyed few.

 

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Don't get me wrong, I love the ErikFire E2100 and would gladly purchase another. But for my cycling lights, I would prefer less modes. 3 is good, 2 would be ideal. I need a bright high, a true medium (40-50%) and a Low (10-25%). Having to cycle through modes while riding is a pain, which is why a 2 mode would probably be the best.

My Solarforce lights make great cycling lights, especially on the helmet, fairly small form factor and good throw with the MF 3 Mode drop in. I would love an E1320 version for my SF lights but just don't want the 5 modes.

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