New EDC 18650, the first flashlight using the new CREE XP-G2 LED @ Intl-outdoor.com

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New EDC 18650, the first flashlight using the new CREE XP-G2 LED @ Intl-outdoor.com

EDC 18650, the first flashlight using the new CREE XP-G2 LED available at Intl-outdoor.com.

XM-L U2 1A and Netural white T6 3C also available.

http://www.intl-outdoor.com/edc-18650-xpg2-r5-xml-u2-900450lm-flashlight…

It’s a really nice small flashlight, can take any protected batteries from Intl-Outdoor Store.

The stainless steel bezel is nice as it’s smaller than any other flashlights and flashlight is composed of only two main parts.

Features:

*Material: T6061-T6 Aircraft Aluminum

*Brightness: 900Lumens (XM-L U2), 450lumens (XP-G2 R5)

*Power supply: 18650 Li-ion (Protected batteries are recommended)

*Orange Peel aluminum reflector

*Wide variety of LED choices: XM-L U2 1A, XM-L T6 3C, XP-G2 R5 2B

*Nanjg 105C (8*7135) circuit board for the XM-L version, Current: 2.8A

*Nanjg 101-AK-A1 (4*7135) circuit board for the XP-G2 version, Current: 1.4A

*Switch:Taicalp reverse clicky switch

*Constant current circuit

*Memory function

*Reverse polarity protection

*Low voltage warning

*Flat stainless steel bezel

*Tailstands

*Color: Golden and Grey

*Finish: Hard Anodize 3

*Dimension( mm ): 114.7(length) x 24(head)

*Weight: 70g (without battery)

*Accessories: Lanyard





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Beautiful light! As usual,
Most light from your shop are good looking Wink
Why don’t you have this in AA/14500 light? That would be nice, if price is right!

Btw: what tint is it for the xpg2? CW NW WW?

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not too expensive.

reminds me of Xeno E03.

okay.

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Pretty good looks and seems sturdy, too bad I’m really into forward clickies…

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ChibiM wrote:
Beautiful light! As usual,
Most light from your shop are good looking Wink
Why don’t you have this in AA/14500 light? That would be nice, if price is right!

Btw: what tint is it for the xpg2? CW NW WW?


It’s Cool White, tint 2B

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I like that you can pick you tint and whether to have flashies or not. Nice looking light.

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Thats definitely a PRO. Choose your emitter with tint, and modes!
great service if you ask me!

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The op reflector and the high efficiency of g2, makes it a keeper!
I really want to see the new beamshots.

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That looks great and I’m interested in the new XP-G2 emmiter.But….no clip?It looks to be about the same size as the s-mini so could be a great EDC with the right clip.

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Nice….as small as the Zebralight SC60. Smaller in diameter than the SC60 but slightly longer.

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uh-oh……neutral XM-l t6 driven at 2.8amps w/3 mode driver for about 31$Screw it…I’ll find/make a clip that works!This will be the fourth flashlight order this week…wifes never gonna give my nuts back now!Thanks a lot Hank!

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That is a beautiful light, Hank! With an XP-G2 that is going to be the EDC of choice for many folks here on BLF. Would be even better with the V2 driver for moon mode low but that’s as close to perfect as I’ve seen from any non-modded torch yet. 8)

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Hank, is it possible to get a V2 Nanjg driver instead of the V1?

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This one really ticks all the boxes of a great edc!

small with good styling
square threads
HAIII
3 mode no strobe
stainless steel bezel
fits most batteries
neutral tint available

Now I just need to know if there’s visible PWM and im sold!

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if I didn’t have the roche f12 I would probably buy it..really nice light..

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True. I don’t see much difference from Roche f12. And F12 does not have visible PWM for sure. But F12 has a higher low (around 50lm I guess). This new one has a green clickie, which does not go with the golden body IMO.

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Hey, nice host, Hank Big Smile
Have a question though: what’s the difference between those drivers? Nanjg 101-AK-A1 is just a one sided Nanjg 105C and less 7135 chips? Everything else is the same?

ChibiM wrote:
Why don’t you have this in AA/14500 light? That would be nice, if price is right!

You have this beauty with clip Silly Don’t know what driver does it have though Flat Stare

JohnnyMac wrote:
Hank, is it possible to get a V2 Nanjg driver instead of the V1?

Did I missed something? Shocked v2 Nanjg?

HAL wrote:
Now I just need to know if there’s visible PWM and im sold!

No PWM from Nanjg drivers AFAIK :bigsmile:

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SashiX wrote:

JohnnyMac wrote:
Hank, is it possible to get a V2 Nanjg driver instead of the V1?

Did I missed something? Shocked v2 Nanjg?

maybe means the 3+ Amp driver

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I guess he's talking about the KD V2: http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S020064

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NightCrawl wrote:

I guess he’s talking about the KD V2: http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S020064

actually this one. The v2 nanjgs use 380ma chips and have nicer mode spacing and come in 4, 6 & 8 chip versions. KD isn’t the only place that sells them though they were the first.

http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S020075

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What kind of warranty do these lights carry BTW? Nice light! Length is fine, but a little bit fat for me as EDC.

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what does PWM mean? thats a sweet light. it intl-outdoors legit?

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reiko1078 wrote:
what does PWM mean? thats a sweet light. it intl-outdoors legit?

PWM = Pulse width modulation

Everything I have heard about them is on the UP and UP!! Just placed my first order with them 2 days ago.

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ok what does Pulse Width Modulation mean? does it mean how fast the light flashes?

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reiko1078 wrote:
ok what does Pulse Width Modulation mean? does it mean how fast the light flashes?

PWM
Pulse Width Modulation. A technique of varying the brightness of a LED by flashing it on and off very quickly, making it appear to the eye that the LED is dimmer. Good PWM is at such a high rate that you can’t notice it. But if you wave your hand in front of the light and get a strobe effect, the PWM is getting too low. Some use current regulation which makes the light dimmer without PWM and is also more efficient.

Here is a link that you might find useful that has some of the words and stuff related to flashlight stuff

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Impulsively ordered one. Will report back. I will be happy if can get one work day off mid mode and 3100 18650, and throw is good.

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So what will be the real-world difference in performance with the new XP-G2 LED?

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Hopefully I can let you know shortly after my cutter order arrives.  I have a few lights picked out for the swap...

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Nice looking light! I so wish there would be XM-L’s U2 bin in 2B tint available

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IndyArcher wrote:
So what will be the real-world difference in performance with the new XP-G2 LED?

Pretty sure it’s just more efficient. http://www.cree.com/news-and-events/cree-news/press-releases/2012/july/x...

20% that is…

Here’s an excerpt:

Built on the revolutionary SC³ Technology Platform, the XP-G2 LEDs combine high light output, reliability and efficacy to deliver up to 151 lumens per watt at 350 mA, 85°C or 165 lumens per watt at 350mA, 25°C in cool white (both at 6000K). In warm white (3000K), the XP-G2 LED delivers up to 133 lumens per watt at 350 mA, 85°C or 145 lumens per watt at 350mA, 25°C. The SC³ Technology Platform leverages Cree’s advanced silicon carbide technology, features advancements in LED chip architecture and phosphor and showcases a new package design to deliver the most advanced lighting- class LED components in the industry.

So it’s just as efficient as an Xml basically

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apt323 wrote:
reiko1078 wrote:
ok what does Pulse Width Modulation mean? does it mean how fast the light flashes?

PWM
Pulse Width Modulation. A technique of varying the brightness of a LED by flashing it on and off very quickly, making it appear to the eye that the LED is dimmer. Good PWM is at such a high rate that you can’t notice it. But if you wave your hand in front of the light and get a strobe effect, the PWM is getting too low. Some use current regulation which makes the light dimmer without PWM and is also more efficient.

Here is a link that you might find useful that has some of the words and stuff related to flashlight stuff

The problem with PWM is that it drives to led to HI then Off. On High, the led is less efficient than at a lower current level. Just because it is off for a small period of time does not mean the average brightness, as seen by user, is not lowered. I believe the bottom line in the CPF forum was that PWM is NOT the most efficient approach, because of this principle. I am wondering why this technology persists in drivers?

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