The TrustFire X8 I have been waiting for has arrived.....................

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The TrustFire X8 I have been waiting for has arrived.....................

today. There were a number of you that wanted to know if indeed it was a genuine TrustFire X8.

I can happily say, Yes. The real deal to the smallest detail. Light arrived in perfect condition. It also came with the TF extension so you can either run on 1×18650 or 2×18650. It didn’t come in the fancy-schmancy TF padded box you see here in this link. But everything else came with it except for a battery and charger. You do the math.

http://dx.com/p/trustfire-x8-xm-lt60-5-mode-1000-lumen-memory-white-led-...

or this link….

http://dx.com/p/trustfire-x8-xm-lt60-5-mode-1000-lumen-memory-white-led-...

It also included the spare parts kit consisting of a glass lens, very nice lanyard, belt clip, assorted GITD O-rings, and an aluminum-encased reverse clicky switch. Those parts alone should you have wanted to buy them separately would prolly run you $7 easy. Remember we’re also talking about genuine TF parts here.

So this supplier of a genuine TrustFire X8 delivers what they advertise. All for less than $30.

Now this is a bargain for a fabulous light at a fabulous price.

And as such gets the almost-coveted Lumatic Good Lightkeeping Seal of Approval. (LGLSOA).

I will proceed to buy one more to fulfil my ‘buy in bulk’ mantra at least for this light. I will now own at least 3 and when all’s said and done prolly quite a few more. I cannot stress that you must get one of these to compare what you have to IMO a real bang-for-the-buck best, a genuine TrustFire X8. Get one now before TrustFire doesn’t make one anymore or messes it up. They’re that good.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-trust-fire-CREE-T-6-LED-flashlight-torch-5-modes-2×-18650-battery-Charger/607065934.html

“When I buy something in bulk you should prolly buy at least one too.”…..“They that have light shall rule the night.”…..“Flashaholics feel depressed without darkness.”…….“I’m a very terminal torchaholic. My entire life just flashed before my eyes

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Was playing with mine last night before bed. It is my brightest single XM-L.

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Well spotted Lumatic !! Bought one (hmmm even thought about getting two …)

The person who runs this Aliexpress store is Rey, who is a contributor to these forum (WWEFANS). Great service from him.

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I agree. the TF X8 is a remarkable piece. Very well built with good throw and usable spill. A light that performs extremely well.

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Rusty Joe wrote:
Was playing with mine last night before bed. It is my brightest single XM-L.

brighter than a HD2010?

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How’s tint on your sample?

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how is the x8 compared to the x6 or x7 or x9?

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It sounds like the XM LEDs won’t really be suitable for flashlight use. Pity…

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(In case you’re addressing me but if not here goes anyway……)

Well, on my sample definitely a whiter tint. Not NW by any means.

This review & comments does a pretty good job. FlashPilot’s comments in particular goes into the finer nuances.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/2644

I will say this though. In both my X8’s the amount of useable/bright spill is very very impressive considering the amount of throw it still manages to project. The HD2010 for instance (at least my TMart version running on 1×18650), throws impressively no doubt about it – and it should with that size reflector, but comparing it overall to the X8’s spill and throw, I gotta say the X8 is Bad A** to the bone and it still doesn’t take a back seat to anything I own in a single-emitter/1×18650. Bottomline is that it’s one helluva light.

You should get one and give us your hands-on impression.

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does the second battery make it brighter or does it just add run time?

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…..

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blueb8llz wrote:
does the second battery make it brighter or does it just add run time?

I’ve noticed a small increase in brightness but runtime is really good with two batts.
It gets rather warm after several minutes but not too hot to hold. Very happy with this torch overall.
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likeaboss wrote:
Rusty Joe wrote:
Was playing with mine last night before bed. It is my brightest single XM-L.
brighter than a HD2010?

Yes. It’s brighter than ANY single XM-L I own. It’s over 1,000 lumens to start. To beat it, you’d have to go up to something like a TN31. It is bright white, leaning a bit blue. And it holds pace nicely with my 1,365 lumen Stanley Halogen spotlight. You can barely tell that the Stanley is brighter. The 980L is right behind it, but with the size of the pill on that thing, I don’t think we should expect any single-banger XM-L to overtake the X8. You need to own it. It’s one of a kind.

Running it on one cell puts it in direct drive, but it will be much less bright (maybe 630 lumens) and will dim when used. With two cells, it is regulated and screaming bright and barely even gets warm. The only thing I hate about it is how easy any little touch of the button will knock it to the next mode.

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It looks like this aliexpress place doesn’t take Paypal? Or maybe I’m blind.

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I don’t think they do. But email them and they’ll usually give you the PP address. They don’t want people to use it because it somehow comes out less in their currency or something.

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I don’t think they do. But email them and they’ll usually give you the PP address. They don’t want people to use it because it somehow comes out less in their currency or something.

If I am not mistaken, PP had a beef with Aliexpress some time ago and they pulled their service from their site. Something to do with buyers complaints.
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Thinking of getting this, but also the XinTD in NW. This light looks better, but I find I choose to grab warmer lights when using them.

How do these two compare other than tint??

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mags wrote:
Rusty Joe wrote:
I don't think they do. But email them and they'll usually give you the PP address. They don't want people to use it because it somehow comes out less in their currency or something.
If I am not mistaken, PP had a beef with Aliexpress some time ago and they pulled their service from their site. Something to do with buyers complaints.

That's just half the story. Maybe less. The real reason is that Aliexpress takes business away from daddy eBay. 

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The Xin is smaller, lighter, and doesn’t have capability of running 2×18650. But you know all that regurgitation.

Bright-wise, I’d say it’s 120 to 150 lumens dimmer, doesn’t have quite the throw or spill of the X8 nor does it have quite as deep a reflector (should that be of any consequence to your decision) and definitely doesn’t have the defensive attributes the X8 has. The X8 can become a seriously effective club with that head weight and extra length. The Xin with NW and mode selection option at purchase are great features so I think it boils down to tint and initial mode setup vs X8 flat-out power, spill, throw, and runtime. Heat-sink efficiency wise, I’d say the X8 has the edge because of that massive pill.

The X8 has user-settable mode memory. You want it to always start on low, you can make it start on low. High, strobe, whatever strokes ya. The Xin doesn’t have user-settable mode memory. This is one feature I really like about the X8.

The Xin IMO is a close contender, a wonderful light in of itself, and quality-wise it’s right there with the X8, but ultimately it’s no X8. I would get both. And I did mainly because I like NW in a quality package. :bigsmile:

Others I’m sure will chime in.

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My Xeno G42 u2 is just a little bit brighter than my X8

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Bought an almost identical light to this one about 18 months ago, only difference seems to be that mine has no extension tube, (came as a twin engined) and no extra bits and pieces.
Cost about $38, (£24 in REAL money, lol)
Still quite a few around ebay even cheaper these days!!.
Can confirm its an excellent thrower, probably as good as a 2010, I might take them out tonight for a comparison.

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>>>>>>If I am not mistaken, PP had a beef with Aliexpress some time ago and
>>>>>>they pulled their service from their site. Something to do with buyers complaints.

Well I ordered using a CC, but not something I feel comfortable with. Not saying that aliexpress are/is crooks. It’s just so easy for someone to swipe CC numbers and put them to nasty use. These web sites have NO security. (I know because I have built 100s of these sites and been a consultant on 100s more.) If you knew what security was like on these sites, you would never use a CC online again. For example, many web sites test their cart apps with REAL credit-card numbers to make sure they work properly. Inevitably, a few fake purchases would end up going through to MC or Visa and the client wouldn’t cancel them in time. Voila! The unsuspecting CC holder ends up “purchasing” an air compressor, a new laptop or who knows what else.

Nah, ebay isn’t blocking aliexpress or anyone else from using PP. Paypal is used as the cart tool on thousands — possibly MILLIONS — of sites. But for Paypal to take away Paypal from a web site — NOT good. They really have to royally sc*ew up and be involved in fraud or non-delivery or who-knows-what. Aliexpress is missing out on thousands of bucks in sales by not using PP, so they really must have messed up bad. Which means they are still messing up probably. And no way will they ever give you a straight answer about what really happened. Becuase of privacy issues, PP will never tell the general public why they pulled PP from a particular site. If they decide to turn down a purchase, they won’t even tell the vendor why they turned it down — Just that it was turned down. Which is exactly how it should be.

Despite all the baloney you hear about ‘em, PP really is a high-class outfit. They have one of the best in-house security teams in the world. It rivals or beats many CC companies.

Well, I hope my CC number doesn’t end up on a list and being sold, what usually happens with stolen CC numbers. China is a hotbed for this. I used a special low-balance CC that I keep for dicey web purchases like this. I just get a new one if something goes wrong — and it has in the past.

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Why buy an ‘almost identical’ clone when ya can get the real deal TrustFire for less? The difference is in the details. So when you fire up that clone X8 against the 2010 it’s not really apples to apples. It’s a clone apple to prolly against another clone apple. There are a bunch of clone X8’s out there. Buyer beware. The Aliexpress seller that sold mine sells the real deal.

Just sayin’……..

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Well this complicates my decision making. Was pretty set on a HD2010, but now I am rethinking it with this X8 deal.

Not exactly sure why, but I think I like the look of the X8 better. That is not really priority criteria though. The dual cell extension tube is a plus.

If this really is Rey of BLF Mini GB fame I would feel comfortable buying, but I would still try to use paypal.

I like copper

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Haterade wrote:
Well this complicates my decision making. Was pretty set on a HD2010, but now I am rethinking it with this X8 deal.

Not exactly sure why, but I think I like the look of the X8 better. That is not really priority criteria though. The dual cell extension tube is a plus.

If this really is Rey of BLF Mini GB fame I would feel comfortable buying, but I would still try to use paypal.


Purchasing the X8 from DX, you are getting a genuine Trustfire. Mine is exceptionally well made. Very well packaged with the Trustfire box as well.
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tatasal wrote:
My Xeno G42 u2 is just a little bit brighter than my X8

Any U2 driven properly will have an advantage for sure.
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Purchasing the X8 from DX, you are getting a genuine Trustfire. Mine is exceptionally well made. Very well packaged with the Trustfire box as well.

I have nothing against DX, but I am not too big on aliexpress. Rey however seems to be a stand-up seller.

I like copper

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something. His outfit has top connections enabling them to obtain genuine TrustFire products and only genuine TF products. That’s real important to know. Because TF makes the best X8’s, period. Lot’s of substandard X8 clones out there. Buyer beware.

Just sayin’…..

“When I buy something in bulk you should prolly buy at least one too.”…..“They that have light shall rule the night.”…..“Flashaholics feel depressed without darkness.”…….“I’m a very terminal torchaholic. My entire life just flashed before my eyes

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>>>>>His outfit has top connections enabling them to
>>>>>>obtain genuine TrustFire products and only genuine TF products.

So which is his outfit, so I can order and be assured of getting the real thing? I am so sick of fakes and clones that vary from one buyer’s review to the next. It would be incredible to order knowing I would be getting a ++REAL++ TF product.

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Right here.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-trust-fire-CREE-T-6-LED-flashlight-torch-5-modes-2×-18650-battery-Charger/607065934.html

Btw, they raised the price up by about $3 because now they’re shipping via DHL. 7-10 delivery and much more secure.

It’s worth it.

Also, people have a concern that they don’t offer PayPal. Don’t be concerned. Here’s why.

You prolly know this but in case ya don’t…….

When you order for instance from Rey’s business through Aliexpress they don’t get their money until you receive the item and are satisfied with it. IOW, payment to them is withheld in a form of ‘escrow’ whereby you the Buyer really have complete control over your payment which is ultimately subject to your satisfaction. If you aren’t satisfied they are incentivized to make it right so they can get paid. It’s a fair system and IMO just as solid as PayPal’s. If you’re concerned about your CC, then I would suggest whenever possible order it on your lowest limit card if that makes you feel a little better. You won’t have any problem though. Aliexpress doesn’t mess around with any of this sort of shenanigans either.

“When I buy something in bulk you should prolly buy at least one too.”…..“They that have light shall rule the night.”…..“Flashaholics feel depressed without darkness.”…….“I’m a very terminal torchaholic. My entire life just flashed before my eyes

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I bought that light a week or so ago. I should have been clearer. Since he is selling reall TF stuff, is there some way to see his other lights?

>>>>>Also, people have a concern that they don’t offer PayPal. Don’t be concerned. Here’s why.

I respectfully disagree, and but I don’t want to start an argument … Over the past 12 years, I have helped design and worked as a consultant on MANY multi-million-buck web sites. If you believe ANYTHING any web site has to say about how they handle transaction money, I have a bridge for you to buy. Wink Just because a site says they do something doesn’t mean they do anything like that.
No site is going to come out and say: “Our security practices are ridiculously bad, but go ahead and take a chance anyway. Who knows, you may get what you ordered.”

The stuff I have seen BIG-DEAL web sites do with CC numbers and your supposedly “secure” data would curl your hair. Nah, forget curl. It would cause your hair to stand straight up and fall out. It’s not so much that they’re crooks, it’s just that they don’t care. I have seen many many sites where just about anyone in the organization — from page designers to ad staff — can easily DIRECTLY access all CC info.

I know. I know. Who is this ubehebe guy? He’s probably making it all up. All I can say is that I’m not making it up.

Paypal is pretty foolproof because they prevent merchants from seeing your CC info, BUT people forget that it’s easy for any employee with a rudimentary understanding of various shopping carts to scrape your PP info as it is submitted, ending up with your PP account name and password, all they need to efectively drain your account. Fortunately, PP has a crack fraud team who immediately flags any strange account activity and can trace it back to the offending site. However, the crooks can keep a low profile and drain a few accounts here and there and escape detection pretty well.

Still, I think, PP is the safest online payment method. And because PP is the defacto online payment standard, if a site doesn’t take PP, there is a reason for that, and that reason is NOT good. They either got PP cut off or PP wouldn’t let them use PP. In other words, they were ripping people off in some way. PP wants to make money too. It’s not exactly easy to get bounced outta PP.

I took the chance and ordered the light, but I think people should be aware of the risk and go into it knowing that 6 months from now, their CC could end up filled with weird charges. You’re right, if you reserve one low-balance CC for online purchases, you’re pretty safe.

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