Review: Black Shadow Terminator 4*U3/4*18650

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The difference would definitely be noticable - nw compared to cool white.... I wouldn't get het up over u2 vs u3 though, same tint bin, you'll only tell the difference on an integrating sphere.
You have to remember that this is definitely an outdoor light and not one for regular indoor use due to the nearly 500 lumen low.  Having a light made for lighting up a lot of area at a good distance you just may prefer the U3 over a neutral T6.  There will be a noticeable difference in output between the two.  I measured a 400 lumen increase over the U2 version with the U3.  You should see at least 400 lumens less than the U2 with neutral T6 making a difference of around 800 lumens between the U3 and NW T6.  Outdoors that difference should be noticeable but, granted, only if you ever saw them next to each other.  As they say, ignorance is bliss but for many here, just knowing they could have had it brighter is enough to cause dissatisfaction.
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I really need to get one of these in 2013… I wonder if blackshadow will release neutral versions as well as possible xml2 versions in a few months?

Check the link above… Wink

ah! didnt see that thanks!

Would you mind keeping the wrong flashlight?
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gords1001 wrote:
The difference would definitely be noticable – nw compared to cool white…. I wouldn’t get het up over u2 vs u3 though, same tint bin, you’ll only tell the difference on an integrating sphere.
You have to remember that this is definitely an outdoor light and not one for regular indoor use due to the nearly 500 lumen low.  Having a light made for lighting up a lot of area at a good distance you just may prefer the U3 over a neutral T6.  There will be a noticeable difference in output between the two.  I measured a 400 lumen increase over the U2 version with the U3.  You should see at least 400 lumens less than the U2 with neutral T6 making a difference of around 800 lumens between the U3 and NW T6.  Outdoors that difference should be noticeable but, granted, only if you ever saw them next to each other.  As they say, ignorance is bliss but for many here, just knowing they could have had it brighter is enough to cause dissatisfaction.

That’s a good point, there was 14 left in stock when I posted the link, we’ll see how fast they go as I won’t be ordering before February. Guess I have a month to make my mind up….

So your saying it won’t be much good for checking behind the sofa? :bigsmile:

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Excellent review of what appears to be a quality torch.

Thanks for taking the time to make the review, as I know they are very time-consuming to do well.

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JohnnyMac wrote:

gords1001 wrote:
The difference would definitely be noticable – nw compared to cool white…. I wouldn’t get het up over u2 vs u3 though, same tint bin, you’ll only tell the difference on an integrating sphere.
You have to remember that this is definitely an outdoor light and not one for regular indoor use due to the nearly 500 lumen low.  Having a light made for lighting up a lot of area at a good distance you just may prefer the U3 over a neutral T6.  There will be a noticeable difference in output between the two.  I measured a 400 lumen increase over the U2 version with the U3.  You should see at least 400 lumens less than the U2 with neutral T6 making a difference of around 800 lumens between the U3 and NW T6.  Outdoors that difference should be noticeable but, granted, only if you ever saw them next to each other.  As they say, ignorance is bliss but for many here, just knowing they could have had it brighter is enough to cause dissatisfaction.

I thought outdoor light is more suitable to use NW for better penetration, while indoor light is more suitable to use cool white for better brigthness.

cool i'll see you when you get there

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Excellent review! Can’t wait to see the outdoor beamshots! Are the led bases 14 or 16mm? What is your take on the tint?

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Great review!! Thank you for taking the time to share.

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JohnnyMac wrote:

NICE…Is that about 75 yards to that little pair of evergreen trees in the first photo?

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thats a good review but at 134$ i dont think its a budget light Silly it wouldnt be an even match if u buy 3x sky ray king and put it up against a shadow Smile

weird i just get addicted to flashlight like in a blink of an eye.

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Finally able to check distance on Google Earth.  Distance from Terminator to farthest house is 272m.

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Yeah ! Keep pumping out those beam shots Johnny.
Your making my trigger finger twitch.

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Will you give a link to the site/item and how to ensure that one would get the U3 Version.

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Flomotion wrote:
Will you give a link to the site/item and how to ensure that one would get the U3 Version.

All I have seen is the U2 also. Please share. Thanks for this sweet review!

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  Flow - Your saying you can specify between U2 and U3 when

  ordering?  

 


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great review, ty!

 

 
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I contacted BS before about this U3 and was told it won’t be anytime soon as they can’t get hold on enough U3.
U3 is definitely more attractive, but I am afraid BS might raise price for U3.

cool i'll see you when you get there

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Will you give a link to the site/item and how to ensure that one would get the U3 Version.
All I have seen is the U2 also. Please share. Thanks for this sweet review!
Thank you for the kind words. Smile

Right now you cannot order the U3 specifically.  Originally their plan was to release it this month but supply issues, if Dengoh is correct, will delay things.  From what I understand, the U3 will have stainless bolts holding the handle to the body while U2 and Neutral versions have black steel bolts.

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BS Terminator without long handle. link
Why!? It is so ugly with the amputated handle.

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BS Terminator without long handle. "link":http://www.shoudian.org/thread-310995-1-1.html Why!? It is so ugly with the amputated handle.
Dengoh,  can you double check that link? I keep getting a page not found error. I cant imagine any way that could look good with the handle cut down. Is it just a stump cut off after the switch?

Nevermind. Triedit again and this time the link worked. Cant view images without an account. Can you just post the pics?I

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He posted many pictures how he did it step by step.
Let me share the look of Terminator. The solution is using hot glue.

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Eww! WTF?! Hot glue???

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Ghetto-fabulous!

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U3 version is for sale on CPF Market Place B/S/T. 

 

 


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U3 version is for sale on CPF Market Place B/S/T. 

 

Saw that too! How the heck did that seller get hold of two U3 versions to sell??? I thought they weren’t available yet to the market?

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Ghetto-fabulous!

BWAH HA HA HA +1

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Dang. I just picked up a TK75, but I really want one of those U3 versions. Hmmm. Shipping is probably too much to Canada anyways.

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Great review like always Johnny,
It must be a great light as a bike light Smile

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jlogres wrote:
Great review like always Johnny, It must be a great light as a bike light :)
Thanks!  Not sure how one would mount it to a bike but if you could figure that out then you probably would have a pretty good high beam. Wink  

I wish more folks who don't hesitate to spend $150 on a light would take a chance on this one.  It really is amazing and quite versatile.    Pricey, yes, but worth every penny if you can swing it, especially when compared with other lights at the same price point or even double.

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jlogres wrote:
Great review like always Johnny, It must be a great light as a bike light Smile
Thanks!  Not sure how one would mount it to a bike but if you could figure that out then you probably would have a pretty good high beam. Wink  

I wish more folks who don’t hesitate to spend $150 on a light would take a chance on this one.  It really is amazing and quite versatile.    Pricey, yes, but worth every penny if you can swing it, especially when compared with other lights at the same price point or even double.

I believe now you have seen my APEX bike light post (from your comment) and it’s the same idea (if you make the right plate) for every flashlight in the market and for this Terminator Smile

I always believed that if you want to spend money for a good bike light , above 2000 lumen and cost you between 200 and 500$ it’s better to buy a good flashlight like APEX ,TERMINATOR , DARTH and others and then with 25$ total cost to make a fantastic bike light.
Even RIC wrote to me that he likes my idea and he is thinking of make one, he didn’t say for him or for selling.

I also upload a video to my post.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/17265

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