Review: Sunwayman R20A

Heres my little review of Sunwayman R20A flashlight that I recently received from DinoDirect

Price was 23.99$, but now its hefty 43.99$ which is way too much for this light, I was able to snatch it for cheap and get it delivered within around one month, surprisingly they shipped it out within hours, which made me suspicious that they might have not honoured my order and are simply playing their shoddy games, good to see I was wrong about them, this time :smiley: ….
Its DinoDirect, so you never know for sure what and when you will get, if ever :smiley:

Official specs from manufacturers webpage:
● CREE R5 LED, with a lifetime of up to 50,000 hours;
● Three levels of constant output, one police strobe mode (below is the output and runtime of using two 2600mAH Ni-MH batteries) Three levels of constant output: 180 Lumens (2hrs)- 37 Lumens (50 hrs)- 4 Lumens (200 hrs) Police Strobe mode: 180 Lumens
● Reverse Tail Cap Switch, fully depress the switch to turn on the light, and depress it halfway for different outputs
● Constant current circuit, constant output
● Uses two 1.5V AA (Alkaline, Ni-MH, Lithium) batteries
● Electronic reverse battery protection, no need to worry about battery reversal, effectively protect flashlight
● High quality reflector maintains great throw distance and spread with an ideal beam pattern
● Dimension: 147mm (length) x 24mm (head diameter)
● Weight: 57g(battery excluded)
● Aerospace-grade aluminum alloy
● Military Specification Type III- hard anodized body
● Waterproof, in accordance with IPX-8 standard
● Ultra-clear tempered glass lens resists scratches and impacts
● Included Accessories: O-ring, rubber cap, lanyard, holster

So lets start with the good points:

+ Nice, simple, rather clean, non-tactical design

  • Rather compact
  • Very good build quality, no complaints at all(read below)!
  • No visible PWM on any of its modes, so its either very high PWM or current controlled
  • Hidden strobe that can be actived when you cycle through all modes twice in fast pace
  • 3 modes: LOW, MED, HIGH
  • Strobe is not your regular non-stop Pokemon seizure inducing attack strobe, its much more usable so called “police strobe” when it blinks for around half second then stops for the same amount of time and then goes off again, cant detect its frequency with my eyes and dont feel like trying too hard lol, dont want to go blind :smiley:
  • Doesnt run too hot, tried to leave it on max output for 5-10 minutes, it became noticeably warm, but not overly hot
  • Rather big and definitely robust square cut threads in the tail cap, love ’em!
  • Comes with holster, yeah!

And heres the only weak spot of this light that I have encountered thus far, but it might be a deal breaker for some:

- Mode switching is a bit awkward - unless you switch instantly between modes when youve turned on the light then switching sequence to whichever mode you need is quite long - first click will get you to LOW no matter the current mode, then the second one after that will get you into MED mode and then the third press will get you into HIGH mode, all this has to be done without pauses or else it will default back to LOW when youll press the switch.
Switching from MED to HIGH is exactly the same - first it will go into LOW, then back to MED and only then into HIGH.

Thanks to eebowler for confirming that his light acts the same, looks like its how it was implemented by Sunwayman!

Other things to consider:

+ / - Reverse clicky

  • / - Will not tailstand, however Im not too concerned about it, 2xAA lights arent the most stable in this department anyway
  • / - Its anti-roll/lanyard attachment system could have been less protruding and oddly looking
  • / - No mode memory, always starts on low
  • / - Tint is slightly towards purple
  • / - No noticeable beam artifacts, beam seems smooth for light like this
  • / - Reflector is OP
  • / - Noticeable, even gap between stainless steel bezel and flashlights body, not sure, why, perhaps there was supposed to be an oring there?
  • / - Havent done any battery life tests, Sunwayman tested this flashlight with two AA 2600mAh NiMh batteries which is rather misleading for their stated battery life numbers because, IMO, decent companies test their flashlights with “industry’s standart” and that would be Eneloop AA 2000mAh batteries, Id consider this to be little bit of cheating with data from Sunwayman’s side. Id rather use 2400mAh batteries in a flashlight that has been tested with 2000mAh batteries and get good increase in real life runtimes instead of getting far less than officially advertised in Sunwaymans(and Fenix, JetBeam as well) case!
    Nevertheless even considering runtime with either 2000mAh Eneloops or 2400mAh Turnigy’s this light has respectable MEDIUM and LOW runtimes. Runtime on HIGH is on par with JetBeam’s while MEDIUM seems to outperform BA20, at least on paper that is.*

*I tested current draw with my multimeter: 0.8(AA)/0.9(AAA) amp on HIGH, 0.28amps on MEDIUM and 0.02(AA)/0.01(AAA) amp on LOW. Thats approximately 2+hours on HIGH, 7+ hours on MEDIUM and 100/200 hours on LOW. Variation in current draw in amp’s is due to using two different battery setups – one was Turnigy AA rechargeable NiMh batteries, the other was using Turnigy AAA rechargeable NiMh batteries placed in AA adaptors.

Some personal observations - compared to JetBeam BA20 which is rated at 270 lumens this light is visibly dimmer, I did comparison video, but the way my camera picks up colors in the darkness gave out wrong impression regarding R20A’s brightness versus BA20.
R20A on the other hand has visibly brighter MEDIUM mode than the one on BA20(it has two modes, HIGH 270 and MEDIUM 30 lumens) even tho its advertised as 37 lumens by Synwayman, its really much brighter than JetBeam’s which has advertised 30 lumens output in MEDIUM mode.

And here are some pics of the light itself:

Sunwayman R20A in its glory:

Next to JetBeam BA20:

Full view of accessories:

Gap between bezel and lights body:

Bezel unscrewed, lens is held by pressure between bezel and oring, you can see this oring around reflector in this pic, notice that lens and bezel have been taken off:

Oring removed, I had to use small needle to remove it to avoid damage to oring or light itself:

Bezel, lens, oring, reflector removed from light:

Took the head apart as far as I could, I couldnt screw out the pill, its probably glued in with some thermal paste, but I can see threads inside the head so with some effort you will be able to get out that pill:

Tailcap with switch cover and anti-roll/lanyard attachment part:

Decent looking square threads in the tail, looks like these are going to last a long while:

Switch is screwed into the tailcap, didnt try to remove it, its pretty narrow there and I didnt want to scratch the light:

Feel free to ask if I have left something out ;)!

Thanks for reading :D!

Same mode sequence as mine and no memory that I know of. You’re good:)

Hah, good to know, thanks, eebowler ;)!
I guess Ill try to do some mini review on this light this week, hopefully :D!

I have 3 of these inbound (the price was to good to ignore). How does output compare to other 2 x AA XPG flashlights? Can you get an mA tailcap reading? How do you like the beam pattern? Does the bezel unscrew to remove the reflector and unsolder the PCB if necessary? Id like to upgrade mine to XPG2.

Its rated at 180 lumens max, compared to my JetBeam BA20 which is rated at 270 lumens, it is dimmer and doesnt throw as far, cant give you more info than that since I only tested it once shortly on nearby buildings wall and tree, but it is dimmer.
Medium mode on the other hand is much brighter than on BA20 (which has two modes), and LOW mode is slightly brighter than low on my Thrunite Ti’s.
Beam patterns seems OK, as long as there are no artifacts, Im good with it.
Bezel unscrews easily, then lens comes off and theres o-ring between lens and reflector. Havent tried to remove reflector, but it looks like its there to stay. Will try to move it when I have my light with me and see if it comes off or not, dont want to break it ;).

Thanks for the update. It sounds like it will be just about right for my needs. My Olight T25 is rated at 250 lumens, which I usually run on medium mode (120 lumens) most of the time. Unfortunately, it wont come apart so its another expensive light destined for the garbage can some day.

I sure hope the reflector comes out of the R20A.

Ok, I updated my original post with review, feel free to go to the first post of this thread and read my say on this light :)!

Thanks for the review.

I’m considering buying one if I can get one at a good price too.

IMO its totally worth it if you can get one for 20$ or less, Wallbuys had one for around 15-16$ during their Christmas sale, if they put it up again during their New Years sale for the same price then its a no brainer - cant be beat for the money IMO ;)!

Thanks for the great review. It looks like the LED can be swapped as long as the wires dont disappear into the pill before soldering in the new one.

I added tailcap measurements to the review, theres some confusing data, Id like to hear from some of you who might know about it better where exactly the problem might be:

I tested current draw with my multimeter: 0.8(AA)/0.9(AAA) amp on HIGH, 0.28amps on MEDIUM and 0.02(AA)/0.01(AAA) amp on LOW. Thats approximately 2+hours on HIGH, 7+ hours on MEDIUM and 100/200 hours on LOW. Variation in current draw in amp’s is due to using two different battery setups – one was Turnigy AA rechargeable NiMh batteries, the other was using Turnigy AAA rechargeable NiMh batteries placed in AA adaptors.

Thanks very much! Frontpage’d and Sticky’d.

Yes. An easy mod.

The pill can be screwed out and driver is press fit: just pry it out and unwind the wires for easier emitter swap.

My sample had SMO reflector, which absolutely required stippling after emitter swap to Nichia 219. Now, after stippling it in the O-L style, this light is simply great! Even the mode switching doesn't bother me, as it allows me to avoid strobe..

Note: Nichia 219 with 10mm star fits easily, but is too thick. It might be easier to reflow new emitter to the original star.

After all, I'm extremely happy with this light after the mod. Might buy some more of these for modding & gifting away.. :)

Beamshots please or it didnt happen :D!

Ok. Here we go.. ;)

Start with unscrewing the bezel and taking the lens off:

Then pry the O-ring away to release the reflector:

Screw out the pill with tweezers:

Driver is press fit, pry it out from the side:

Rotate the driver to unwind the wires (to allow more clearance for soldering):

Pry the original emitter out, de-solder wires, reflow Nichia to the same star, solder back, add some Fujik..

Don't do like I did: The 10mm Nichia star is thicker -> had to grind the reflector to fit.. (forgive me for the ugly soldering)

Screw the pill back:

Add the centering ring, reflector, O-ring, lens, and bezel. Check that the emitter is still centered. Note also the stippled reflector (for more flood & avoid ringy beam):

See how elegant this light looks, compared to Quark & Minimag:

And then the requested beamshots, white wall, compared to 2AA led Minimag (on high).

All beamshots 1/400s, f/3.4, ISO80, WB accidentally on auto :(

Low: (believe me, the R20A is on the right.. ;))

Medium:

High:

Thanks for reading & watching. Hope this encourages also others to mod this wonderful light!

Hmm, no hotspot? Pure flood?
Have you tried it outdoors to see how useful it is in urban environment?
How good is it outdoors somewhere in nature, besides the tint - how far the beam goes?

There is a hotspot, but it has a very smooth transition to flood. Just like I want it for indoors / short distance.

Haven't used it outdoors yet, but I forecast it to be very good in short distances. For throw I'll take other lights.. ;)

Nice. I really want one now. I wish I had picked one up when they were on sale.
So…the pill wasn’t glued in?

Do I see sense resistors on that driver? I wonder if they could be replaced for more output? I havent found a small enough replacement driver to fit yet. The R20A is by far the dimmest of any 2 x AA cree powered light I have ever seen, and it doesnt seem that efficient considering the comparable runtimes of others that are driven much harder and run far brighter. The host is handsome and well crafted but the performance is pathetic. 1.05A at the tail on fresh eneloops. My other lights pull at least 1.4A or more.

No it wasn't.

Yes, at least it looks like it.