[05-FEB-2013] How to deal with trolls

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I really wish I knew how to stitch, I cut myself all the time. And it’s ALWAYS on a knuckle! So superglue or liquid bandaid doesn’t work well in those situations, and they just kind of look wierd.

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I really wish I knew how to stitch, I cut myself all the time. And it’s ALWAYS on a knuckle! So superglue or liquid bandaid doesn’t work well in those situations, and they just kind of look wierd.

Sintro, just a quick one as not all wounds suit stitches. They serve 2 basic purposes : 1)Reduce scars. 2)Close a wound to promote healing and discourage infection. #1 is for areas where scars would be prominent and would is deep enough to see yellow fatty tissue under the skin (subcutaneous tissue). #2 is for lacerations, punctures, and incisions. But avulsions that still have a flap of skin attached may also be stitchable. Complete avulsions and abrasions are not suitable, but still need a doctor’s attention if serious enough.To know whether stitches are needed, look at 3 things: 1)Depth of wound enough to see the subcutaneous tissue? 2)Width enough for wound to be pulled closed easily? But if wound is gaping and can’t be easily pinched closed, t may still need stitches to hold it closed long enough to heal correctly. 3)Location of wounds on body areas that stretch/move a lot will need stitches more often than those on areas that do not move as much. Eg. forearm wound will not move as much as a calf wound, so it would not really need stitching. There are wounds/victims that need a doc: 1)Diabetic victims. 2)Animal /human bites (open wounds). 3)Dirt that can’t come out of the wound. 4)Can’t close the edges of the wound. 5) Uncontrolled bleeding to call 911. Final question is duration since last tetanus shot as it’s not effective after 5 years. If so pls see a doc to get wound analysed bf stitching. Ultimately, if in doubt, docs know best!

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First, Full Disclosure: I like all you people, even the ones “you people” don’t like. I have made it Quite Clear that “free speech” is one of those “principles” to which I adhere quite diligently, even if that free speech “offends” me.

BUT!!

This is turning out to be TOO FUNNY to ignore:

gords1001 wrote:
Aren’t trolls known to derail threads for their own ends? :bigsmile:

I’m sure many here don’t explore the Internet as much as some of us do, so please try to understand…

In the context of THIS THREAD, Gords1001 just deftly, adroitly trolled the lot of you. Us, now.

Good onya, Gords!!!
(Remember: if Hitler’s words had been widely available, it’s likely the honorable people of Germany would never have followed him into WWII. Those who start by burning books (banning words), will end by burning (banning) MEN.)

BUT it’s not my chat room, so I follow the rules. Unless this post violates the rules. Looks like it’s “Double Secret Probation” time for Dimbo!

But I MUST ASK YOU ALL: Why is it so hard to just scroll down to the next post? (I mean BESIDES the monstrous ‘quote’ blocks and giant ’250+%’ pictures, which are worse than trolls IMNERHO) Those of us who have been “online” since before the WWWeb seem to have less of a problem with that, than newly-logged-on people who seem to think there’s some kind of “reality” here. Just sayin’. Hoping this won’t get me banned.

Party

Edit: +1 for an [Ignore] button! Can we get some “[Ignore {Post || User || Thread}]” kind of logic if it’s not too much to ask?

“There is no darkness but ignorance.”

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In the context of THIS THREAD,Gords1001 just deftly, adroitly trolled the lot of you.
0:) I have to say it was entirely unintended, I only realised after the fact. Sorry 0:)
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Dimbo The Blinky wrote:
Why is it so hard to just scroll down to the next post?

Often a reply leads to a next post. Smile

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I like it all .You live and die on your word ..only you are responsible for the stupid thing you said or did I say leave it all up and let the chips fall where they may .I like the no moderation of blf so yeah I'm spoiled and any moderation beyond that which we oppose upon ourselves feels like too much.

I'm not sure i ever really have gotten a grasp on what a troll really is.Seems it can always be tossed out at almost anyone ..

Where's my bridge  ?

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Boaz wrote:

I like it all .You live and die on your word ..only you are responsible for the stupid thing you said or did I say leave it all up and let the chips fall where they may .I like the no moderation of blf so yeah I'm spoiled and any moderation beyond that which we oppose upon ourselves feels like too much.

I'm not sure i ever really have gotten a grasp on what a troll really is.Seems it can always be tossed out at almost anyone ..

Where's my bridge  ?

+1

troll....Tongue Out

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Boaz wrote:

I like it all .You live and die on your word ..only you are responsible for the stupid thing you said or did I say leave it all up and let the chips fall where they may .I like the no moderation of blf so yeah I’m spoiled and any moderation beyond that which we oppose upon ourselves feels like too much.

I’m not sure i ever really have gotten a grasp on what a troll really is.Seems it can always be tossed out at almost anyone ..

Where’s my bridge  ?

There are trolls, and guys with sticks. It takes both to send a thread off the deep end. SB is right, don’t be either. To me a troll is someone who intentionally posts something inflammatory in order to get a reaction and then uses that response as a springboard for further comments. The subject matter is almost immaterial as it is the attention and strife that they crave. Just being irritating should not be enough to qualify one as a troll. It is the repeated disagreement, not allowing other points of view,” why is everyone picking on me” attitude that sends up the red flag for me.

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good point

-intentionally posts something inflammatory in order to get a reaction.

-The subject matter is almost immaterial as it is the attention and strife that they crave.

 

 

 

 

 

anyone wanna buy a bridge ?

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Wanna to buy some Arizona beach front property?

It's cheap!

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Wanna to buy some Arizona beach front property?

It’s cheap!

It’s cheap because of Kelly Marie Dreller aka Greta.

“It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.” – Sydney Carton in ‘A Tale of Two Cities’ by Charles Dickens (1812-1870).

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raccoon city wrote:

Wanna to buy some Arizona beach front property?

It's cheap!

How about a bridge and some laptop pulls ..i have 6 purple panasonics .And the bridge has only been slept under a couple times  ...

 

Sad Why did I trade those Solarforces to Foy for that damn bridge ...

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raccoon city wrote:

Wanna to buy some Arizona beach front property?

It’s cheap!


so are write your will at home kits, doesn’t make them legal, or should i say legally binding

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raccoon city wrote:

Wanna to buy some Arizona beach front property?

It's cheap!

It's cheap because of Kelly Marie Dreller aka Greta.

I'm all about cheap.   Wink

Maybe I should add the following to my signature to prove it.   Evil

Greta_Eyes_100

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Yikes RC! I much prefer Milla.

Thanks for making BLF great SB!

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quote:“so are write your will at home kits, doesn’t make them legal, or should i say legally binding”

actually… a surprising number of legal documents CAN be made at home, and still be perfectly “legal”.

you CAN buy on of those “kit CDs”, that contain all manner of “generic” agreements and legal texts, and wills are popular among them.

Lawyers themselves? Actually USE those same kit CDs, lol… what LAWYERS bring to the table when they prepare documents?

1) lawyers are knowledgeable enough (or should be, lol) to FORSEE many run-of-the-mill “objections” someone CONTESTING the will later on might use, and to put in clauses extra SPECIFICALLY to prevent that.

2) lawyers keep a hard-copy ON FILE for up to 20 years… this is a “fail safe” against all else happening, and further “proof” of a decendent’s (dead person) actual wishes.

3) lawyers are sure to FILE documents properly and with the proper repository… EG, at the court house or with the city hall.

4) every STATE in the united states has its own laws and differences, and furthermore, every COUNTY in every state, has its own “pecularities” and ways of doing things. Theres a REASON why lawyers tend strongly to practice law in a certain county.

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if your “agreement” or “will” is fairly run-of-the-mill, and very generic and straightforward? doing a “home will kit” if a good idea, IF and only if, it is properly filed at the courthouse properly.

good examples of will types to do at home?

“my wife gets everything… if my wife is dead, my only son gets everything.”

or

“Bob Smith, my neighbors eldest son? he gets everything.”

or

“all of my three children? each get an equal share of everything.”

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BAD types of wills to do at home?

1) bob gets THIS thing, mary gets THAT thing, Davd gets 20% of the house, will gets 75% of my business, and my youngest cousin twice removed gets the remaining 25% interest…

2) “I hate my family, you all ruined most of my life for me, so, i am leaving everything and everything, to MARY the young stripper at the topless bar i like to drink at to forget you all.”

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ANYONE can “contest” a will over almost anything… things that make it easier to contest a will?

1) suddenly changing a long standing will, so as to exclude everyone and giving it all to “so and so” who just appeared in your life recently

2) filing a will and dying pretty soon after. Its surprisingly easy to “raise an argument and suspicion” by claiming “dad was on PAIN MEDS the last year, and BOBBY was beating his ear to get everything while pretending to take care of him”

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little things everyone always forgets…

1) if you leave stuff to BOBBY your SON… what happens if BOBBY is dead? specify his kids get equal shares of HIS share… you should cover EVERY POSSIBLE CONCLUSION.

2) You have to name an “executor” or an “executrix” (male or female) as the ONE PERSON t carry out your last wishes. ALSO, if you dont say otherwise? this named executor get an automatic percentage of everything.

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being a lawyer? is a lot like every other profession… almost anyone CAN do it? but, unless you DO IT FOR A LIVING, theres a lot of little stuff you will miss.

its like being a mechanic? its looks easy to set the timing marks on the timing chain and timing gears on top ed reassembly! Just line up the TWO MARKS on the TWO GEARS so they touh! The manual says so! how can you screw that up??

easy… if its not a new engine? there could be a small amount of “slop” in the whole system… all within “spec”, but… the marks might line up slightly before or slightly after… which way do you account for the slop? flip a coin?

you just have to do some studying and reading to find the answer… and legal paperwork is no different.

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a lawyer is NO DIFFERENT than a mechanic you take your car to… if you take your CAR to the mechanic, and leave it ALL UP TO HIM… you are at his MERCY if you dont know what is wrong, dont know what the part costs, nor have an accurate idea of the time and expertise required to change it.

the mechanic is in business to make money, and if you know nothing, you are a plum to be taken advantage of. The mechanic will charge you 2 or 3 times parts cost, and a ungodly hour rate, plus “several more hours” of magic-charge… and if they are nasty? and think you are clueless? will bill you for stuff they didnt even do.

IF, on the other hand? you show up at your mechanic… knowig that the ABS brake light, AND the service VEHICLE light (not the engine light…) are both on, and that the ONLY thing in common to BOTH SYSTEMS is the speed sensors in the front hubs? AND you hand him the NEW HUBS, ad ask him “how much t put these 2 hubs on? you dont have to separate the struts on my model… its 3 bolts press in…”

he will say “well… 60 per hub… i’ll have it done in an hour.”

“and hey? the torque setting on teh main axle bolt?? i came across a lot of technical service bulletins that are updated to say 175 ft-lbs… not the 235 that the manual always says… that breaks the hubs quick.”

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now? your in and out, for a flat charge.

you DONT have to pay for “4 hours of diagnosis” which is often your car SITTING for four hours (for which you pay the hourly service charge for, lol) while the “diagnosis” is actually the mechanics workig on 3 other cars… so the owner gets paid TWICE for the same mechanics labors.

you DONT pay 3 times what the parts actually cost. You GAVE him the parts. They are paid for.

you DEMONSTRATED knowledge of whats going on… he now knows you re NOT going to fall fro the old “well, we had to this and that…” routine to up the bill and overcharge you for un-necessary work if its a “slow” week.

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which kind of customer do YOU want to be? the gir that walks in and hands the mechanic a “blank check” to be filled out for any amount he wants?

or… do you want to hand the guy 120 bucks and pick your car up an hour later, and the lights are all off? eh?

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Rant deleted. Lawyers are no worse than any other group…

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