Review: Prairie Fire D10 - 26650 with Side Switch

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Prairie Fire D10

Reviewer's Overall Rating: ★★★☆☆

This light was provided by LightsCastle for review.

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Summary:

Battery:

 26650 (OR 18650 w/sleeve)

Switch:

 Reverse Clicky Side Switch

Modes:

 5 mode: Hi-Med-Lo-Strobe-SOS

(No memory – resets at 10secs)

LED Type:

 XM-L T6 (as claimed)

Lens:

 Glass

Tailstands:

 Yes, perfectly

Cost:

 $30.00

From:

LightsCastle (Link to D11 model

see reason below)

Date Shipped:

 12-05-2012 (Recv’d 12/24/2012)

 

Pros:

  • 26650 compatible
  • Nice feeling side switch
  • Solid build quality
  • Nice size in the hand
  • Glass lens & aluminum reflector
  • Decent Heatsinking
  • The “next mode memory” resets after only 10 seconds.  (No memory seems to suit a driver with blinky modes better.)
  • Well focused beam, mostly a thrower
  • Well centered emitter
  • Could make for a very nice mod host

Cons:

  • Very under-driven (only 2.0A 1.33A on high)
  • Threads were dirty upon arrival causing light to flicker
  • Glass lens arrived with a chip at the edge
  • Price is a bit high for its performance level

 

Other Specs/Details:

Reflector: 51.1mm wide (49.1mm inside) x 40.1mm deep (to LED)

Body Tube: Diamater 57.6mm at head, 31.6 @ battery tube, x Length 198.3mm (total)

20mm driver diameter

20mm emitter star

Plastic insulator over emitter to protect from reflector to LED shorts

SMO reflector

Uses PWM (detected shining at a fan, but doesn’t bother me in use), but no driver whine

Decent threads once cleaned and lubed

O-Rings at every joint

Strobe seems to me to be a “medium” speed strobe

Comes with 18650 sleeve


                Crystal (crystalcai) from LightsCastle sent me this light to review two months ago and I’m just now getting around to the review (sorry Crystal, and sorry BLF’ers).  Crystal has been very nice to deal with over PM’s and has provided quick replies.  Based on this experience, I wouldn’t hesitate to order from LightsCastle. 

            Crystal sent the light in their new packaging which is a nice cardboard box (not the typical cheap thin cardboard boxes we’re used to from other vendors).  The box came inside a standard bubble pack envelope.  I’m under the impression that all lights will be packaged in these boxes.  They didn’t have the light in stock, but it only took two days to get it and ship it out.  It shipped out 12/05/2012 and was delivered 12/24/2012, not bad considering the holidays. 

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NOTE:  I must point out that the model I am reviewing is a “D10”, but the product link is for a “D11”.  I searched the LightsCastle website and checked back through my PM’s and I couldn’t find a “D10” link.  Apparently there was a mixup.  I will have to check with Crystal about this and see if they can sell this D10.  I would imagine the D11 to be nearly identical to the D10.  It appears to me to just have some styling differences at the head (fins) and tailcap.  I know Richie086 has ordered a D11, so hopefully he can chime in on drive currents and such. 

            My first impression of the light was that it’s a very nice size in the hand.  It has a solid feel to it.  It’s similar in size to a typical 2 C cell sized light.  (I don’t own a 2C Maglite, but I would guess the 2C Mag to be slightly larger.)  The light had a few minor imperfections in the anodizing (which I’ve come to expect) and a chip at the edge of the glass lens (hardly noticeable behind the bezel).  The switch has a nice feel to it as well, although mine must need cleaning because it causes some flickering.  The light has a typical 5 mode driver, but no memory, which seems to work out well so that you don’t have to see strobe or S-O-S modes if you don’t want to.  The “next mode” memory resets after 10 seconds (i.e. no matter what mode you were in, the light will reset back to high after being off for 10 seconds).  The emitter is an XM-L and claims to be a T6.  The tint looks like a typical nice cool white.  I don’t see any purple or blue in it.  The beam is well focused with a nice tight hotspot.  There are slight rings in the beam only noticeable when white-wall hunting.  At a distance of 4.5 feet the hotspot diameter is 4 ¼ inches and the corona (which is slightly yellow) is 14 inches wide.  Total spill width is 64 inches wide.  This light is more of a thrower than a flooder, but I wouldn’t call it an excellent thrower. 

Shot in my hand:

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Control (wall is "lettuce" green and 4.5 feet away):

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Beamshot on High:

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            My light had some serious flickering issues when I received it.  I found that after I cleaned and cleaned all threads with rubbing alcohol the flickering pretty much went away (just some occasional flickering in the switch now).  The threads didn’t feel bad as it came (slightly lubed) but after I cleaned and re-lubed they feel very good. 

            Heatsinking seems pretty good.  The pill threads into the bottom of the reflector which then threads into the head of the light.  The pill has a solid platform where the emitter mounts, but has plenty of hollow space inside between that platform and the driver.  The emitter seems to be glued down well with thermal paste.The head has some good mass to it as well.  I left the light running on high for over an hour while typing this review and the head barely got warm.  I would say the heatsinking would be fine for a 3+ amp XM-L.  You could also fill the pill for some more mass behind the emitter. 

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            Tailcap currents:  As previously stated, the light is under-driven as I received it only reaching 2.0A on high with a fully charged 26650.  Light levels come out to 100% - 50% - 25% which to me is too close of a spacing resulting in a low which is not really very low.  Here are my measurements on fully charged cells:

*EDIT May 17th 2013 - found out my old meter was reading currents too high and so I finally got a new meter (see new meter readings below)

On a protected Trustfire Flame 26650 @ 4.21v:
Hi – 1.98A
Med – 0.98A
Low – 0.48A

On an unprotected King Kong INR 26650 @ 4.22v:
Hi – 1.70A
Med – 0.90A
Low – 0.46A

I also tested current levels on the same King Kong @ 3.81v (rested after light ran for about 1 hour) and had:
Hi – 0.98A
Med – 0.49A
Low – 0.25A

*New Meter readings with TF Flame 26650 @ 4.18v:
Hi-1.33A
Med-0.63A
Low-0.30A

            I didn’t have any issues with either of my batteries fitting for length or rattling.  The positive contact from the switch module protrudes slightly so flat top cells shouldn’t be a problem.  It is difficult to measure tailcap currents due to the threads being inside the tube and obstructed by the battery.  I found it odd that it pulled less current on my unprotected King Kong. 

            Here are numerous photos.  Descriptions listed pertain to the photo below the description.

Broken down:

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Well centered emitter:

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Chip in my glass lens:

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Tailcap threads:

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Tailcap threads didn't look square cut to my eye, but they do look it here in this photo:

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At the head end:

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Top side of switch module:

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Some measurements:

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This photo is showing the approximate reflector depth to the LED hole:

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With a protected Trustfire Flame 26650:

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Driver:

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Pill depth:

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Depth of open area inside pill (you can also do some math and see that the platform thickness the LED is mounted to is 3.47mm):

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Size comparison, HD2010 on the left, Prairie Fire D10 center, Jacob A60 on the right:

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Same order as above:

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Beamshots (sorry, I was rushing to get them before dawn) taken with my point & shoot Nikon on "Night Landscape" mode.  Approximately 150 to 200 feet 184 feet to the shed (EDIT 4/19/2013 - finally measured this distance):

Control:

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High:

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Medium:

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Low:

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            My conclusion is that this light is just average.  It is a nice budget mod host, but at the current price of $30 it’s too expensive for me to consider.  Now that the review is done, I think I’ll drop a neutral white XP-G2 in it with a 2.5A Nanjg 105c. 

            Comments are encouraged and welcomed.  This is my first formal review, so please take it easy on me.  I do again apologize that I took so long to post this one. 

-Garry

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Great review Garry!I like

Great review Garry!I like this format and the beamshots are excellent…as always!-Rick

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Very nice and detailed review

Very nice and detailed review Garry. Thank you.

Aside from the poor driver, it actually looks like a very nice light. I like the design and construction, especially the heatsink/pill arrangement.

Antoher definite positive point is the ability to use 26650’s (enough room for protected cells too) I think it would be fairly easy to turn this light into a real winner and a definite ‘go to’ light for everyday use.

I’ll be keeping a look out for your XP-G2 and 2.5 amp driver mods. I’m very positive about the outcome.

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That driver looks like the

That driver looks like the keygos m10 driver. I wonder if those resistors can be tweaked for more output?

Nice review gary, I’m taken with the host, a nanjg in there will be nice, an xp-g2 should makeva great thrower. Big smile

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Hmm. . . Is the M10 a 20mm

Hmm. . . Is the M10 a 20mm driver? Has someone posted a close up of it?  Anyone have any input on a resistor mod for this one?

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Hey Garry, I can’t wait to

Hey Garry, I can’t wait to get one. The size seems perfect and easy to mod. I have several extra XM-L2 LEDs, so one will make it into this light with a driver upgrade to a 3-mode.

I ordered mine from ColorApples on Feb 3rd, but it still hasn’t shipped yet. I was hoping they’d get it shipped before the holiday, but they never shipped it out. Last time I order anything from them.

If you get your upgrades completed, I’m very interested in the outcome. Thanks again for the indepth review Wink

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Nice review, thanks!

Nice review, thanks!

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Great review Garry! I thought

Great review Garry! I thought you did a great job!!

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Nice beamshots but pic's of light are all done

garrybunk wrote:
crystalcai) from LightsCastle sent me this light to review two months ago and I’m just now getting around to the review (sorry Crystal, and sorry BLF’ers).

Nice beamshots but pic’s of light are all done yellow and you must ask Banglabob for help with pic’s.

I think spending much two much time at The Home Depot and too months two long for review of gift light.

Thank you.

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A.L., thank you, two, for

A.L., thank you, two, for pointing those too things out.

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well pointed out Gary, the
Laughing out loud well pointed out

Gary, the m10 is indeed a 20mm driver, I’m wondering bif that row of resistors are the sense reistors and if so, if a variable resistor could be soldered across them.

I’ve still got one in my uf-v3 so I guess I could try it.

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Thanks Gary. Loved the

Thanks Gary. Loved the review.

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I Like Guns, too, two... three... four... maybe more

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A.L., thank you, two, for pointing those too things out.

Thank you dthrckt, too, for the alertion on my language mistake (too and two) Sad I should be better!

It also helps with undertsnding how so many thousand posts for you and very foolish most because you forget about the yellow pictures.

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Sorry the pics are slightly

Sorry the pics are slightly yellow (I didn't think they were that bad; that is a white towel used for a backdrop.). I really dislike this cheap point & shoot Nikon i have - worst camera I've ever owned!  Looks like the couple I took with my iPhone came out more natural (the size comparison shots). Pics are a little small; I can resize them if desired. 

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Garry, you did a great job.

Garry, you did a great job. The review and photos are excellent and we all appreciate the time involved to put all this together.

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Thanks, I now have a greater

Thanks, I now have a greater appreciation for those that do reviews! It's hours worth of work to do a decent job! 

BTW- a better camera is on my wishlist for later this year. 

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Nice review Garry. I think it

Nice review Garry. I think it could be a sweet light. Keep us posted!

I guess you could initially put in that xpg2 since its only doing 2a currently and see if it looks like a worth while swap. If it don’t work out then chunk a U3 and a driver at it and see what happens.

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Nice review, Garry!  I am

Nice review, Garry!  I am backlogged for some reviews, too, so don't feel alone in that. Wink

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ColorApples just refunded my

ColorApples just refunded my $24.00 for the Prairie Fire D11 I ordered on 2/3. They are just letting me know now the light was never in stock.

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Richie086 wrote:ColorApples

Richie086 wrote:
ColorApples just refunded my $24.00 for the Prairie Fire D11 I ordered on 2/3. They are just letting me know now the light was never in stock.
Sorry to hear that.  Why don't you PM Crystal and see if she can still get the D10 or D11 (even though it's shown out of stock on their website).

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garrybunk wrote: ]Sorry to

garrybunk wrote:
]Sorry to hear that.  Why don’t you PM Crystal and see if she can still get the D10 or D11 (even though it’s shown out of stock on their website).

-Garry

Thanks for the suggestion. I just ordered some new Enerpower 26650’s and some MNKE IMR 26650’s as well from EDC+.
I’ll do that in the coming weeks when I recover a bit from this battery expense Cash

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Revised the OP with readings

Revised the OP with readings from my new meter.  High of only 1.33A really stinks!  And I thought it was bad at 2.0A! 

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I have just been going over

I have just been going over the pictures here again and as most off you know not being the most observant person in the world noticed the pill reflector set up. To me its very unusual. The pill screws into the reflector and the reflector screws into the lights outer housing. Thats definately a low current 1.33 amps. lt would be interesting to see the difference in light output and profile with this driver if you ever put the XP-G in compared to the XM-L.

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I do still plan to throw an

I do still plan to throw an XP-G2 in it, but it's low on my priority list. Now summer projects around the house are starting up too. I will post back if/when I mod it. 

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Very nice, understated form

Very nice, understated form factor

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