Zebralight H502 and unsupported batteries (experience and speculation -- long)

Please just don’t read this thread if reading long content makes you prone to gripes or flames. Just move along.

After years of following and researching Zebralight products, I finally took the plunge. It wasn’t all pretty, and this post comprises pretty much my own “review” as well, which may clash with others’.

Prior to purchasing my Zebralight H502 (my first Zebralight, and most expensive flashlight I own), I knew that it was designed for 1-volt cells, and that higher-voltage cells were “unsupported”—and what that meant, was never clear. With all the destructive tests we’ve seen, surely someone had tried it, and reported on it. Did it even work? Did it go pop? Believe it or not, although my research yielded many references to “14500 batteries not supported”, I found not a single reference to an attempt. Not saying there wasn’t one, but if so, I didn’t find it. Well, I figured I might have to be the gineau pig. I went through with the purchase anyway, and here are my results.

I won’t give a full review of the H502 with pictorials, because there are so many, but I want to share some impressions I hadn’t heard, or which contradicted what others said, or which validated some things which were disputed. The main thing being that (blasphemy), I actually wasn’t happy with this light. Why? Because on the supported cells (I used the recommended Eneloop, plus ‘Duraloop’ NiMH), it was only barely brighter than an XR-E on a 14500. I know their XM-L is intentionally underdriven; I get that. But it should be brighter than an XR-E, in my mind, especially for the price! I mean, until then my main headlamp was a C78 where I’d removed the head/lens, and literally rubber-banded it to an el-cheapo headlamp headband I had lying around from an unwise but very inexpensive headlamp purchase. Actually, the “chopped” C78 is great, super-lightweight, and the headband actually very comfortable, but the problem was: no modes (so it went balls to the wall on your 14500 until the protection circuit suddenly left you in darkness), and, being full flood, I wanted a little more brightness. This is why I spent more than 4x the money on the Zebralight. I’m amazed there’s really nothing in-between, unless you count the Ultrafire “H” series knock-offs, which aren’t really cheap themselves, for what they are (mostly XR-E’s until recently).

Upon actual use, I realized that a NiMH cell, regardless the efficient whiz-bang voltage boost circuit, was not going to produce the current to pull away from a well-driven XR-E in much of a significant way. This was a huge disappointment. And I felt foolish for spending $70 on something which wasn’t much better than I was able to whip up on the cheap. I wasn’t really planning on doing “unsupported” batteries, but I realized I had no choice (other than to send the unit back for a refund, which I didn’t want to do yet). Plus, I will say I thought the tint was awful. After reading George personally say ZL is “very picky about tint”, I was downright angry about the violet and sick-green hue. My C78 XR-E had a far better tint—a bit exaggerated in reds, but at least it HAD red! The H502 was pathetic on browns. And outside, things are mostly brown, especially in winter.

Keep in mind I had no idea what was going to happen when using “illegal” cells, so I was very worried. Did “unsupported” mean it would break it? Or break me?

First, I tried PowerGenix 1.8V NiZn cells. Still within 1.x volts, I wasn’t very worried. Well, I thought ‘this is better’. I was pretty satisfied. Even the tint seemed better somehow. But if you have any PowerGenix cells, you know how low capacity and unreliable they are. I knew I couldn’t keep the flashlight with the sole intent of using them with cells which aren’t really available to the general public anymore, and which were never very reliable or high capacity in the first place.

So then, LiFePO4. These are cells which are usually in the low 3.x volt range. Now THIS was good. Actually, the first time I tried them, I thought I had broken it, as the light wouldn’t turn on. I later learned I just hadn’t screwed on the cap tightly enough. Again, now being brighter, the tint was somehow acceptable, though still greenish. I read about this when it first came out, with owners speculating it was the glow-in-the-dark “reflector” at cause, with others claiming that was impossible. I own a good number of XM-L’s, and I’ve never seen a tint like this. The greenish hue matches the GITD, and it’s most prominent around the edges, where the GITD would stand to have its greatest effect. So, I’ll say I now believe the GITD “reflector” to be involved, and wish they had just given us a normal, polished metallic reflector of the exact same dimensions. It would’ve helped light output too, IMO. Anyway, most users of LiFePO4 have experienced its low capacity. I now had the light output I wanted, but the runtime was still no better than my stripped C78 on a Trustfire ‘flame’ 14500. But the best news was the light didn’t break, and on top of everything, all the modes worked! I remember old ZL headlamps and/or Fenix flashlights where li-ion cells were not supported, and people would get a surreal “High” mode (old Fenix AAA Cree running on a 10440), but no other modes—and in some cases, wouldn’t even turn off. That didn’t happen here. It worked beautifully, as if it were designed for it.

With great reluctance, I came to the conclusion that only a 14500 LiCo cell was going to give me both the voltage and capacity I wanted. So, I tried it. All I had were protected Trustfire flames, and I was hesitant to remove a protection circuit at the time, for mostly obvious reasons. Well, they are pushing the edge of how much room the H502 gives you. There’s NO spring at the front. And the cell comes nearly flush with the end of the battery tube. The spring must be compressed far enough to let the ends of the tube contact a conductive ring on the tailcap. I think a properly-shaped metal O-ring could help, but I didn’t have one. Anyway, the H502 actually gives you a brief flash of light to let you know when this ring makes contact with the tube. That’s quite handy when worrying about crushing a potentially dangerous cell.

Well, with the “illegal” LiCo 14500, I now had everything I wanted. Not super bright for an XM-L, but ahead of the XR-E enough to justify keeping it, and with runtime to match, and ZL’s famous interface (I’m not a fan of soft switches, but if you have to have one, this is it). BUT the light can and does come on accidentally if I’m not careful. Luckily, locking out the tailcap is super-easy. The tint seemed whiter—less violet and less sick-green. Though still having some of these attritubes, it was okay now. To me, the most interesting thing was that I didn’t really notice an increase in brightness, going from LiFe (3.x Volts) to Lithium Cobalt (4.x Volts). The driver seems (I stress that word) to me to cap it, like a boost/buck circuit working as if it were designed for that range of voltage.

So, with nearly zero official word on this, one is left to speculate on “why” ZL would design an XM-L where common sense would dictate a higher-voltage cell be used, and then not allow it. And also what is meant by “not supported”? Rumors can abound in this environment, and I’m afraid I might add to that, but here goes.

- I’ve seen George, the owner or chief of ZL say during my CPF days that Zebralight’s problem with li-ion cells is not the voltage, but the quality of the cells (and the safety issues which come with that). I found it ironic then, that they went and made a model for 18650 size. They now also sell 14500 cells made by Sanyo, but those still are not advertised as compatible with the ZL H502.

- It’s not that the circuitry won’t perform right at higher voltages. It works fine. Everything except the ‘battery checker’ function, of course, which always reads 4 pulses! :wink:

- The length of the battery tube is so cramped, I wonder if they didn’t realize it was a little too short for protected cells until after production started? I don’t know. You gotta squish that spring pretty hard on protected cells, but mine do make it. I mean barely.

- Maybe they think there will inevitably be idiots who run it on High until something bad happens. And they’d be right. But measures can be taken here, such as time limits on how long a “turbo” mode can be on. In fact, I believe that’s done on the H600 (18650 verion)?!

  • 14500 is supported on some other ZL models, so that kind of throws my above speculations into the water. Makes you wonder if they just thought their circuitry was too low-quality to handle it? A 4Sevens customer service phone rep basically told me as much when I challenged them that using a LiFePO4 and even LiCo worked just fine on their Quark Mini CR2, despite their owner’s assertion that the idea was “crazy”. I still disagreed with him. I’ve now owned 3 of them, and have used Li-Ion on all of them with no problem. I’m just not stupid with it.

I feel an importance to write about this, because to me, the H502 without higher-voltage cells does not justify the cost. Sure, some people just love luxury and quality, but remember, these are flashlights, and what they do is produce light. And if they don’t produce enough, what’s the point? This is in contrast with so many YouTube videos I watched of people saying the light (running on NiMH!) was “more than enough”, even those with the significantly lower lumen non-Cree versions. Whatever, fine. To each their own. But in full flood, there is the perception of less brightness, which is one reason few manufacturers have the nerve to release full-flood designs. I love full flood, but I also like to have enough light to see comfortably beyond my shoes, say up to 10-12 feet out. It can on Li-Ion; it can’t on NiMH. In all senses except battery tube length, this flashlight seems to have been designed to be used with 14500’s. And needs them to perform to full potential. Everything works, including memory. Low modes can still be super-low. It’s just beautiful. The only thing that’s missing is full ramp-up mode customizability.

Which leaves me wondering what the deal was for them to intentionally hamper their product. Was it the fear of a lawsuit if a 14500 blows up on somebody’s head? I honestly think that’s it. If it happens, they can point to their website and manual and say, “See, we told him not to”. But for users who want to try it at their own risk, it works great, as long as there’s no mishap. IMO they really should’ve left the battery tube longer for protected cells, instead of making it short and just telling people not to use li-ion. Because now I want to get an unprotected cell for it, yet I don’t really like the idea of wearing an unprotected cell on my forehead.

I still remain a huge fan of full flood/mules. But I am NOT a fan of GITD “reflectors”. While slightly useful, a GITD O-ring (or GITD elsewhere) would’ve been a better application. And, really, not necessary. Not only can I not figure out how to get this thing apart, I don’t know how they got it together. The front bezel has no dimples to screw off with tweezers, though I’d love to get in there, and “Bubba” some metal/reflective duct tape over that “reflector”. It’s the perfect shape and angle to be a reflector, and looks like like it was originally intended to be, yet it’s NOT. In fact, the membrane is partially transparent—you can see a bit of innerworkings inside. And surprisingly, the thing inside is NOT filled with thermal potting material. What? This surprised me. I’d like to get in there and squish some in. But it’s not gonna happen.

And, finally, one of the biggest downsides is worrying about losing it. I’ve already had a $40 4Sevens Quark Mini CR2 fall off my keychain in a parking lot, never to be recovered (whoever picked it up probably didn’t know what they had). With a beater SK68 clone or C78, you just don’t have to worry. In fact, you might just give the light to someone who’s really impressed by it (I’ve done that). If I leave the light at home or in my bag because I’m afraid to mar or lose it, what good is it doing me right then? And, that wonderfully anti-reflective glass lens is also wonderfully non-replaceable!

With that said, the H502 has become my most-used flashlight. Only because of li-ion, though. That’s right. Without Li-Ion, I would’ve sent it back. Between LiCo’s great capacity, and ZL’s efficient modes, you can get some really long runtimes when higher brightness isn’t required (which is most of the time—but sometimes you do). In fact, I even started using it indoors as an interior light, when a “night light” was too little, but an AC lamp was too much, such as pre- or post-bedtime with a partner. The right angle design comes in handy, and can be used while still attached to the headband. Or, angle it straight up at the ceiling. Or any angle in-between.

Lastly, I’d like to add that the Ultrafire knock-off headband I got from Kaidomain was actually of higher quality than the Zebralight one. While the elastic is probably not as durable, it is softer and easier to stretch (more comfortable). And, more importantly, it’s a fact that the Ultrafire people improved on the design of the rubber piece when they knocked it off (which is rare!). The Zebralight rubber part is too curved; it’s curved for the skull of a premature infant. There are even people who have ‘re-threaded’ the elastic thru the rubber mount in the opposite way, running the elastic through the flashlight mounting holes, so the overly curved rubber wouldn’t cut into their foreheads. My Zebralight headband now lives on my Trustfire Z1 right-angle light (a bad H30/H31 knock-off, except for the removable reflector, which is cool).

I appreciate the time it took to catalog and write your impressions .

jacktheclipper, I really appreciate your positive feedback.

Here are some updates to complement my review.

This is a link to the Ultrafire headband sold by Kaidomain. I believe this is the one which comes on Ultrafire’s “H” series Zebralight knock-offs. I don’t think Kaidomain knows what they have. If you search “headband”, nothing comes up. It’s sold as “Ultrafire Elastic Belt”, item number S009709. If you search either of those terms, it does come up. Amazingly low price: $3.54/free, and that price has not gone up since I bought in 2012.
http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S009709
It is in my opinion a very nice upgrade, better than “re-threading” your current Zebralight headband through the flashlight holes. One of those rare occasions where the cheap knock-off rivals the expensive original. If you’ve never found your Zebralight headband a little tight or overly curved though, you probably don’t need it. But it can be used on a variety of other lights, including the Trustfire right-angles which never came with a headband. Rubber is extremely soft, like the Zebralight one, and the headband softer, more easily stretched, and therefore more comfortable, but likely not as durable.

I have ordered the “Genuine Sanyo UR14500P 14500 840mAh Li-ion Battery (2-Pack)” from FastTech (currently $9.94/free). The UR14500P is probably the highest quality 14500 cell in existence (and what is inside Zebralight’s ZL584 14500 battery). However, this lot from FastTech appears to be old (January 2003 according to a comment there), just bare unprotected red Sanyo cells, hence the low price, I guess. I actually wanted unprotected in this case, to try for better fit in the H502, but I’m worried about age’s impact on capacity. I don’t have equipment to properly measure capacity. If they are at or near rated capacity, they’d be an outstanding value. Intl-Outdoor sells a 2-pack of new, protected UR14500P, but they’re pricey at around $17.50.
http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10002603/1287511-genuine-sanyo-ur14500p-14500-840mah-li-ion-battery

I’ve read the Nitecore NL147 cell (14500, protected) is a bit thick, and though I didn’t order it, I believe it would probably not be too thick for the H502, as my Trustfire flames have a little wiggle room to shake inside the tube. Length is another matter. FastTech has the best price I’ve found. This is a slightly lower capacity Sanyo cell. I have not found a discharge graph to compare to the UR14500P.
http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10001848/1134000-nitecore-nl147-14500-750mah-37v-rechargeable-lithi

There is a good discussion of the best 14500 at:

thread title: “14500 battery from Fasttech-which one for SK68 clone”.

I’m now measuring from 3.6V and up on Trustfire flames. So far, it looks fairly well regulated to 1 amp on High. I’ll update when I’m finished charging.

H502 CURRENT MEASUREMENTS

AMPS

14500 LiCo (Trustfire “flame”) at 4.11V
1.0 High-high (4.1 watts)
.48 High-low (2.0 watts)
.15 Med-high (0.6 watts)
.04 Med-low (0.16 watts)
.008 Low-high (0.03 watts)
.001 Low-low (extreme low, LED just faintly glowing) (.004 watts: 4 thousandths of a watt)

14500 LiFePO4 (generic from Kaidomain) at 3.2V
(could use a little charging)
0.94 High-high (3.0 watts)
0.50 High-low (1.6 watts)

AA NiMH (Rayovac Hybrid) at 1.29V
2.20 High-high (2.8 watts)
1.65 High-low (2.1 watts—very close)

These are some interesting results (to me, anyway).

My biggest surprise was to see that the lower of the 2 High settings was 50% of full high. No wonder I treat it as my “medium”. I hadn’t written this, but actually one of my small gripes was that medium modes were too low. The upshot is, a 14500 with an honest 700mAH capacity, should be able to go 40-some minutes on max. I didn’t test my flames yet, but I know my LiFePO4’s only got about 20 minutes before the voltage was very low, showing them to be of low capacity.

At higher voltages, current is regulated to 1 amp. But the circuitry is smart enough to know that on 1-volt cells, to not limit to 1 amp. It must be sensing the voltage to do this. To me, this seems like proof the H502 was designed to use cells beyond 1.x volts—show me how I’m wrong here.

Above around 2V, regulation clearly regulates the amperage, but NOT wattage. So a 3-volt cell and 4-volt cell are both restricted to 1 amp of output. Naturally, the 4-volt battery will produce more light, because it is generating more watts (amps x volts = watts). Which explains why I thought I might have perceived a slight brightness bump going from LiFe to LiCo (basically going from 3.5 to 4.1 watts). This also means that brightness WILL drop as the voltage of the battery drops (even if amperage stays the same). I also noticed that as battery voltage drops, the the difference between High-high and High-low drops to being almost indistinguishable. This is when you know it’s time to change the battery.

My findings show how conservative Zebralight has been here. I think they could’ve gone for 1.5 amps on high. 1.0 amps is 1.4C on a 700mAH 14500. 1.5 amps would be about 2C, which I’ve always assumed safe for li-ion cells, but I can see how that’s arguably pushing it, especially with the questionable quality of many 14500’s. But that would’ve been more interesting—and I would’ve accepted a “turbo” time limit to do so. This also shows why even on High-High with li-ion, I was only “satisfied” with the light output, not really enthused. But it was enough to keep me from sending it back. It also shows that no fancy li-ion cell is going to provide more brightness. It’s all about capacity, fitment, and safety with the H502 when it comes to 4.2V cells.

Doing some reality checks:

  • My SmallSun C78 (XR-E) draws 0.85A on high at 4.2V. At 4.0V, it’s only 0.65A. But it still seems impressive for what it is. That’s about 3.5 watts (probably more like 3.3W during testing). H502 on NiMH draws about 2.8 watts, which was just barely brighter. I think most would agree they’d want their $70 XM-L AA light to be able to beat a $10, 3-watt XR-E AA light in terms of max output.

- I’ve recently bought 2 cheap 18650 XM-L headlamps off Ebay. 1 large-lensed zoomie, another reflectored (similar to a bike light). The zoomie (with terribly thin wires inside) pulls a pathetic 1.0A. The reflectored one does 1.4A. Sad on both accounts. But the 1.4A is quite noticeably brighter. The 1A zoomie, with lens removed, matches the H502 at max in visible brightness (no surprise there). Both Ebay headlamps are much bigger and have far fewer modes and lower quality, but they both are headlamps which work, are fairly comfortble, have as good or better light output, more focusing options, and both were easily under $20 delivered. Buying both got me to the halfway point of the H502 in terms of cost. It’s just a reality check, especially because it IS the Budget Light Forum. However, neither of those are EDC’able, though they’re easy enough to fit in a bag.

I definitely would not carry the H502 in my pants pocket without a tailcap lockout. My H502 fell off my nightstand once, and the button must’ve hit something when it fell on the floor, because it turned on—High, as is the default mode for click-on. I’ve already had a Trustfire Z1 right-angle drain unknowingly in my pocket. While doing current measurements, the H502 lens pressing my leg actually burned me (not seriously—I instantly disconnected a lead), and that was only with LiFePO4, and that was through the glass! I’ll reiterate that a simple squirt of thermal compound to fill the head would’ve seemed to help with heatsinking. It’s visibly clear that the head is at least partially hollow. Disappointing. I wish ZL lights were easier to open up, or I’d do it myself.

CONCLUSION
Overall, although it took me years to justify a little $70 flashlight/headlamp (I know some of you guys think nothing of dropping $100 on a light), now that I’m comfortable using li-ion cells, I’m happy enough with my purchase. Nothing’s perfect. I deem value not so much on my personal enjoyment, but how much USE i get out of something. And by that measure, Zebralight’s flexibility in terms of size and modes, means it is now my most often-used flashlight, which previously was my 4Sevens Quark Mini CR2 XP-G keychain light, my other most expensive flashlight at $40. I may ask Zebralight for more specifics on what their concern is.

BOTTOM LINE:
With higher-voltage cells: worth it, if you really like full flood, and are comfortable doing something a manufacturer tells you not to.
Without higher-voltage cells: I can’t personally recommend a $69 XM-L headlamp which won’t obviously outshine a cheapo XR-E running at 3 watts, no matter how many modes there are. NiMH is a great option to have, but it’s pathetic to be restricted to it, especially with the attention and skill Zebralight says they give to advanced circuitry and heatsinking.

That was a very thoughtful and honest post, brjones. For those who have been considering a Zebralight, it will be thought provoking.

I think I’ve read more less-than-thrilled commentary about the 502 than any of their other headlights. I think ZL’s decision to combine what amounts to a specialty configuration (the reflectorless emitter) with the least capable mass-market power source (AA primary/NIMH) is at the root of it. A lot of folks expected great things from the 502, and found the reality to fall short.

While I don’t own a 502, I have a H600 and a H31Fc. As with you, they are among my most used lights. The H600 has plenty of light on medium, and it is pretty darn impressive on high. The H31Fc is not at all impressive, but it is useful. That flood of high-CRI light renders colors very well, and it makes working on things like electrical panels and engine compartments much less frustrating.

For anyone considering their first headlight purchase, I’d think very carefully before deciding on a H502. I think most would be better served with a reflectored headlight, and the ‘F’ or floody versions are a good all-around compromise.

Thanks for the positive feedback. Interesting suggestion on the H31Fc. Do the H31’s have the same reflector angle as the H600, since you conveniently have both?

I read a rumor here or on CPF that the next version of the H600 might have a small lens, like their original models. I think that’s exciting, and my guess is that is an ideal way for ZL headlamps. I say that without having any of the older models, though. Not sure why they got away from lenses. I wonder if it was heat. I’d think the beam pattern would resemble a zoomed-out ‘zoomie’ (my favorite beam pattern), only fixed at the wide zoom, and with no of light issue caused by lens distance.

People usually love tight reflectors, because the hotspot is how most people (especially newbs) subjectively perceive “brightness”. My problem with most reflectors is they’re too narrow. The H600 angle “seems” like it’d be too narrow for me (haven’t seen in real life)… and the Ultrafire (H6?) knock-off seems even worse/narrower(?). My crappy Trustfire Z1 (XP-E) has a small but really narrow reflector, which makes the hotspot so tight that it ironically gets the most “wow” effect from people who’ve never seen a good LED flashlight, despite it being one of my weakest! That’s why doing the opposite (full flood, essentially reflectorless/no lens), I thought was gutsy. I’m sure they could’ve turned that GITD ‘membrane’ into a perfect, wide reflector (there actually appears to be a bit of metal cone underneath the membrane, to support its shape), but oh well.

So, once I dropped my H502 off the nightstand while it was off, and it turned ON. Last night it dropped off my nighstand while it was ON, and turned OFF! The battery is very tight, so it wasn’t a battery disconnection. I was just glad it didn’t break. But it did surprise me. Don’t know what could’ve caused that. I’m not a fan of soft switches.

Yes, I think the reflector angle is the same, or very close, between the H31, H51, and H600 series, listed as 9-12 degree hotspot with 80 degree spill, according to their website. The frosted lens on the “F” version diffuses the beam out to a 90 degree spread and smoothes out the hotspot. The H502 is listed as 120 degree flood.

I like a broad, floody headlamp. The H600 has a beam pattern more like a typical handheld light. It would probably be great for dog walking, or search and rescue, when you need some real range. But most of the time when I’m using a headlamp, I’m working on things up close. For example, I recently used the H31Fc while snow shoveling and stacking firewood, and it had good output up to 8 meters or so, which was plenty.

If I had to do it over again, I’d probably go for the H600Fw. That would provide a floody beam pattern, high output, and 18650 compatibility. The only downside I see is the larger size.

Using a lens as a headlamp optic is an intriguing idea. I just got my first zoomie, a Sipik SK68, a couple of weeks ago, and haven’t really had a chance to try it out yet. That perfectly even flood beam with the sharp cutoff looks exactly like a theatrical spotlight.

That switch issue you experienced is kind of troubling. Do you think the switch somehow got pressed during the fall?

Great commentary. If I went for an H6xx now, I’d probably follow your advice, where I wouldn’t have thought to do that before. (I thought the frosting would have reduced light output too much.) And I suppose the difference between 90 (with diffuser) and 120 degrees is not a deal-breaker. It’s better than I thought.

The first time my switch thing happened, I thought it fell on something that pressed the button (though I didn’t see anything which could obviously do it). The second time, I concluded it was the shock itself which did it. Again, I’m just glad it came back on, but yes, I did find it a bit troubling. The battery is jammed in there way too tight for it to have been a spring wobbling, like has happened in other lights with not-great connections, especially my odd Yezl 9-series? zoomie with a dinky spring.

I think the stoopid little SK68 will win you over. So ugly but something about them. A good glove box and take-along light you don’t have to worry about (or giving away). Can run on AA alkaline if it needs to, decent throw even on AA. Before I bought mine, someone recommended the AA Hugsby (reflectored), but I much prefer the SK68 and gave away the Hugsby. Reminder to self: put SK68 clone back in glove box with LiFePO4 cell and backup alkaline! Can be rubber banded to a crappy generic tilter headlamp base if you turn the plastic tilter upside-down. Unscrew the lens for full flood mode. Implausibly versatile. The 3-mode versions available now make them even better, and not really dimmer at full. I take my pills apart and squirt thermal grease in there (I fill them up, an undoable if messy thermal potting). Get the big 30g tubes on Ebay for two bucks shipped. Gone through several of those, lol. Seems cheaper than Fujik, but I like that stuff too.

Okay. Finally getting back to report on how my purchase of FastTech’s “Authentic Sanyo UR14500P 14500 840mAh Li-ion Battery (2-Pack)”.

These unprotected, flat-top cells, while fitting safely in the tube, did not at the start work in my Zebralight H502, due to the flat top (lack of button top). I purchased a package of 3mm diameter magnets on Ebay. This worked perfectly. Many thanks to JohnnyMac for the tip here:

To repost what he wrote:

I did not use any glue. I think some people here might say there’s a safety issue is the magnet somehow touched the flashlight tube, but I don’t see how that could happen. But, for safety, please consider this and act at your own risk. My battery is attracted to the metal contacts at the center of the Zebralight, as well as the metal top of the Sanyo flat top (which does not go all the way to the side, and there’s a wrapper, too). I just place the little magnet on center of the positive side, slide it straight down the tube (I hold the tube straight upside-down to ensure it goes down straight, and let gravity do the work), screw on the cap and it works!

NOTE: I first tried a wider magnet I already owned (5mm? 6mm?), and it was TOO WIDE. It did not work. I think 3mm is the ideal size, like JohnnyMac said.

The best part about using the Sanyo UR14500P is, the tailcap does not feel like it’s crushing the battery anymore, to make contact! Yeah! I have now found (for me) the ideal Li-Ion cell for the H502 (for price, size, quality, and capacity). Zebralight should NOT have made it this difficult!

I don’t know if it would be a “feature” or “defect”, but as a result, the battery now does not immediately slide out of the tube when the cap is unscrewed. The magnet holds the battery inside. With a light shake, the battery will disconnect and slide out. Luckily, the magnet stays on the battery, not inside the flashlight.

From the reviews posted at FastTech, the 14500P’s are now of new manufacture, and just about matching the rated capacity of 840mAH. The current price has gone up from my last post from $9.94 to $10.01 for 2 cells.
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1287511

FastTech also has a welded-tab version of the battery, model 14500L2, $5.64 for 2 cells:
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1420/10002603/1193200
But the reviews are not as good, claiming a capacity of about 500mAH—however half the price of the 14500P, and probably still better than the Trustfires I got from DX for about the same money. Rememer, the point here is to find a quality, safe, UNPROTECTED Li-Ion cell for the Zebralight, so it will fit properly. One reviewer stated that he was able to remove the bottom tab, and cut off part of the top tab, and folded it over to act as a “button”. I’m not sure that would work in the H502 (although probably easier to place a solder blob onto), and personally I get nervous using metal pliers (or solder) on lithium cells. But for savvy BLF’ers, this might be a budget choice or experiment (and no need for a magnet).

PERFORMANCE: from my previous test, above a certain voltage, the H502 regulates High-High current to 1.0 amps, and High-Low current to 0.5 amps. So, I expect that the brightness is the same, over my Trustfire flames, just the runtime is much improved. On the highest high (which I only use briefly, and infrequently), it gives about the same light output as a cheap, large Ebay XM-L zoomie with the front lens removed running about 1 to 1.5 amps. (Which makes sense). And which is really all I wanted from the beginning. NO ill effects noted to this point (again, I’m careful). And obviously, far greater runtime than my low-quality Trustfire flames.

IMPORTANT OBSERVATION ABOUT TRUSTFIRE FLAME 14500’s: while this has already been noted by others, it’s important and I can personally verify this: TrustFire uses different cell manufacturers for the same “Flame” cells, and hence slightly different lengths of cells. This explains the variety of experience and reviews for these. I have 1 cell which will not fit in my H502 at all, and 1 which does fit, but barely. So if you already have Trustfire flames, and an H502, don’t force the tailcap over your protected Trustfire, just because one (barely) fit in mine. Just get a quality unprotected button-top 14500, or make a button yourself.

SAFETY NOTE: Because the H502 can be easily accidentally activated due to the nature of the soft switch, unscrew the tailcap a little before you carry this in a pocket or pack, to “lock out” the power. I also recommend keeping the High mode normally on the “lower” High selection (0.5 amps), just in case you forget.

REGULATION NOTE: Regulation does not necessarily mean “constant brightness”. Brightness curve best translates to watts being used. Watts = Amps x Volts. The H502 regulates amperage (amps). However, the voltage of your cell drops as it gets used. So even though the amps stay the same, with less voltage, there is less power being drawn, and hence lower brightness as time goes on. I think most people see regulation as a way to maintain brightness till the battery just can’t give anymore. However, with the H502 at least, the regulation effectively acts as a safety cap, or a limiter, so that the battery’s full power cannot be used. For instance, on High-High, the H502 regulates (or limits) the current to 1 amp exactly. (True “digital regulation”, unlike the fake Ebay/DX/Kaidomain claims.) At 4V (freshly charged li-ion), 4v x 1A = 4 watts. As the cell gets used, let’s say it drops to 3.0v. The H502 is still regulating it to 1 amp. But 3v x 1A = 3 watts. Substantially less bright. The light is nevertheless regulated. With the H502’s regulation, the only way you can increase brightness (wattage sent to the LED), is by increasing your battery voltage. And Li-Ion 14500 cells are basically as high as you will go. If this is new to you, I know, it’s disappointing. This is why crude, cheap lamps can sometimes be more exciting.

CONCLUSION: The Sanyo 14500P unprotected cell is an excellent cell, perhaps the best Li-Ion cell, for the H502 if you can make a button for it and can be wise with your usage of High-High mode. The H502 remains my most-used flashlight. Let’s face it. Unless you use mostly low modes, the runtime from any 14500 isn’t going to be terrific. The H502 needs all the help it can get.

RANT: I maintain that my measurements (post 3) prove that the H502 was designed for use with Li-Ion cells. Or at least cells exceeding 2V. The more I learn about this light’s innerworkings, the more I become confused and miffed as to why Zebralight chose to 1) design this light without room for protected cells, and 2) declare that Li-Ion cells are “not supported”, to the point that experienced, senior flashaholic forum members on here and CPF declared some kind of orthodoxy (without actually testing) that Li-Ion cells “would not work” in the H502, and that the H502 was “not designed” for use with Li-Ion or higher-voltage cells, both of which I have proven false. Cell length cannot be too long (protected), and the cell must have a button top. Those are the only hard limitations. I may just confront (ask) ZL about this. I think it’s time.