Nitecore EA8 Caveman - Video of my Initial Thoughts upon receipt - NOW With BEAM SHOTS

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Nitecore EA8 Caveman - Video of my Initial Thoughts upon receipt - NOW With BEAM SHOTS

Here's a quick and useless video of the EA8. I got it this afternoon and these are just initial thoughts upon opening the box.

 

 

I will try to update this with some beam shots tonight, along with some better text on how I feel about it.

Suffice to say, it's a nicely made light, but the UI is something that will cause me to sell it off.

 

Beam Shots

ea41

LOW

 

ea42

Med1

 

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Med2

 

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High

 

ea45

Turbo

 

 

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Mouse Over. High and Turbo

 

 

 

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Turbo

 

 

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Mouse Over. High and Turbo

 

 

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Mouse Over. High and Turbo at reduced shutter speeds, to help see the spot better.

 

Is it 900 lumens? I don't know. It doesn't seem like it, but maybe it's all throw with no spill and it deceives my eyes because of that. I leave that to people who can take measurements. I just go by what my eyes tell me.

It is definitely a spotlight, (thrower). A very intense spot with hardly any spill at all. The majority of the light is going into the spot. It would be a great light for that, but for just an all round light? Not for me. Not enough spill to use it for walking or just regular illumination.

I guess I just don't care for the light and I really wanted to like it. A very light body and using 8 NiMHs. I just wanted to love this light, but I come away not liking much at all about it, except for the quality and engineering that went into it. It is a very well made spotlight, (thrower).

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Give it a little time to get used to it. It’s a little complicated at first, but it will become second nature.
Got to watch the vid later when I get home

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Looks pretty nice, Old. With enough practice the modes will probably not be too difficult to remember but I doubt the average flashlight user (normal people, LOL) wants to practice how to use a light. A continuously variable control ring 8AA light would be excellent for simplicity’s sake.

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Yep, a control ring might be ok. Want I want is High and then ramping if I choose. I do not want or need modes, just High. I want a light to turn on, when I push the switch and turn off when I push it again. I am old fashioned and do not want to change and since I don't have to, this light will go bye bye or modded to do what I want to do. I just don't feel like modding it. It is a beautiful light and someone will enjoy it very much, but I just don't want to break it open and have to put more parts into it. It's not bright enough as is, even on turbo. That's probably because of the small heat sink and because they know people are going to throw Alkalines into it and ruin it. With a 4amp to 5amp+ driver, it would probably wake up a little. It appears to be a thrower and if I kept it, I would have to stipple the reflector and change the driver. Just don't want to do that right now.

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Thats a shame you can’t get on with the ui Sad I must admit that I had trouble with the ea4 when I first tried it, but after reading bcoz quick reference guide and using the light a few times it all seemed to “click”

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you need to click faster! Big Smile

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COMPUTERS are complicated too but I bet you figured out how to use one.
Its good that its a different UI because nobody can borrow it or use it. I dont like to share my expensive toys. Borrowers dont respect and take care them.

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COMPUTERS are complicated too but I bet you figured out how to use one. Its good that its a different UI because nobody can borrow it or use it. I dont like to share my expensive toys. Borrowers dont respect and take care them.
There's a difference between can use it and not wanting to use it. I am sure many people will like it. I just don't want to use a UI like that. The light is a nice light, but not nice enough that I would bother learning it when I can have a light that turns on to high and I can just hold the button to ramp it to any brightness I like. DrJones has spoiled me.

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Old-Lumens wrote:

Yep, a control ring might be ok. Want I want is High and then ramping if I choose. I do not want or need modes, just High. I want a light to turn on, when I push the switch and turn off when I push it again. I am old fashioned and do not want to change and since I don’t have to, this light will go bye bye or modded to do what I want to do. I just don’t feel like modding it. It is a beautiful light and someone will enjoy it very much, but I just don’t want to break it open and have to put more parts into it. It’s not bright enough as is, even on turbo. That’s probably because of the small heat sink and because they know people are going to throw Alkalines into it and ruin it. With a 4amp to 5amp+ driver, it would probably wake up a little. It appears to be a thrower and if I kept it, I would have to stipple the reflector and change the driver. Just don’t want to do that right now.


Is it not 900 lumens on turbo?

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It is one big bunch of AA batteries. 8)

The switch does take a little practice. It is hard to read the voltage count when I load mine, is the blue LED dim or bright?

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The UI can be as complicated or simple as you want it to be. If you just click the button all the way down once…you get trubo.Click it again, off.You only have to half press it to acess the lower modes.Once you spend some time with it the UI gets very easy to use.I would give it a bit of time Justin, I think you’ll find it will grow on you!
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The UI is the same as my EA4. I use highest mode on that light 99% of the time. That’s easy. One full click gets me there. One more full click turns it off. Even an old dog like me can learn that new trick.

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cool

what are you going to mod it to heheheheeh

Would you mind keeping the wrong flashlight?
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Pinetreebbs wrote:
It is one big bunch of AA batteries. 8)

The switch does take a little practice. It is hard to read the voltage count when I load mine, is the blue LED dim or bright?

The blue indicator on my EA8 is brighter than that of my EA4.

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Pinetreebbs wrote:
It is one big bunch of AA batteries. 8)

The switch does take a little practice. It is hard to read the voltage count when I load mine, is the blue LED dim or bright?

The blue indicator on my EA8 is brighter than that of my EA4.

Thanks for the response. I had just the opposite with the two EA4 light I handled. My EA8 is quite dim although it suits me, I am not to fond of blinking lights

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Must be production diff., I thought it was intentional though…guess not.By the way, I like flashing lights…and shiny things too! Smile
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I really like the UI of the EA4 and EA8 is similar if not identical.
With one click you can have access to Turbo or Low. Everything else is details and never has to be accessed. I would like this UI on more lights.

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Yep, a control ring might be ok. Want I want is High and then ramping if I choose. I do not want or need modes, just High. I want a light to turn on, when I push the switch and turn off when I push it again. I am old fashioned and do not want to change and since I don't have to, this light will go bye bye or modded to do what I want to do. I just don't feel like modding it. It is a beautiful light and someone will enjoy it very much, but I just don't want to break it open and have to put more parts into it. It's not bright enough as is, even on turbo. That's probably because of the small heat sink and because they know people are going to throw Alkalines into it and ruin it. With a 4amp to 5amp+ driver, it would probably wake up a little. It appears to be a thrower and if I kept it, I would have to stipple the reflector and change the driver. Just don't want to do that right now.

Justin, you aren't alone. When I build a light, I'll put in any or as many modes that the user wants. I think 75% ++ request a high / low mode or just an On & Off. I like a High Low. As much as I like my TN31 I think about selling it off because it is just too much to mess with. I am constantly fumbling with the blamed thing. I usually end up grabbing something I built... or one of my old Browning lights that are pure on & off. OR... one of my favorite Old-Lumens Mods!! !!!!  ... Some of us just want LIGHT! Surprised  Dan.

 

 

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Yep, a control ring might be ok. Want I want is High and then ramping if I choose. I do not want or need modes, just High. I want a light to turn on, when I push the switch and turn off when I push it again. I am old fashioned and do not want to change and since I don’t have to, this light will go bye bye or modded to do what I want to do. I just don’t feel like modding it. It is a beautiful light and someone will enjoy it very much, but I just don’t want to break it open and have to put more parts into it. It’s not bright enough as is, even on turbo. That’s probably because of the small heat sink and because they know people are going to throw Alkalines into it and ruin it. With a 4amp to 5amp+ driver, it would probably wake up a little. It appears to be a thrower and if I kept it, I would have to stipple the reflector and change the driver. Just don’t want to do that right now.

Justin, you aren’t alone. When I build a light, I’ll put in any or as many modes that the user wants. I think 75% ++ request a high / low mode or just an On & Off. I like a High Low. As much as I like my TN31 I think about selling it off because it is just too much to mess with. I am constantly fumbling with the blamed thing. I usually end up grabbing something I built… or one of my old Browning lights that are pure on & off. OR… one of my favorite Old-Lumens Mods!! !!!!  … Some of us just want LIGHT! Surprised  Dan.

 

 


I am after the most lumens, like most of us, and that is probably the first thing I look at when buying. But I have found once in a blue moon I need that low setting, to read or lurk around the house at night. So its nice to have a couple of output modes in one light. But those lights with 6-7- or 8 modes is too much. And sometimes that new, cool looking one you want has extra junk.
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i’m sorry to hear its all throw, i also don’t find such lights practical

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good videos, EA 8 is a great flashlight, i would like to buy one, just do not have the budget.

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As someone recently suggested to me, put a MTG-2 in it. that should give it a bit off spill. Or you could just give it to me, please Smile . I was so confused for two weeks on using the modes on the EA4 until it clicked, I was just stupid, yeah again and quite like it now. You’ve talked me out off it though so you have saved me some money for once. About time. Thanks for the video. If you mod this thing, I’m looking forward to the work off art. Cheers.

 

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As someone recently suggested to me, put a MTG-2 in it. that should give it a bit off spill. Or you could just give it to me, please Smile . I was so confused for two weeks on using the modes on the EA4 until it clicked, I was just stupid, yeah again and quite like it now. You've talked me out off it though so you have saved me some money for once. About time. Thanks for the video. If you mod this thing, I'm looking forward to the work off art. Cheers.

Nope, not going to mod it. I'm just going to see if anyone wants it for the price I got it for.

The head and even the bezel will not budge. I imagine I would have to heat it, to break up the loctite and I just don't even want to mess with the light. It's already 2-3 times more than I would normally pay for a host, so I don't want to put more money into it and also run the risk of totally ruining it.

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Nice video. I, too, hate that sort of interface, but several modes are good. Anyone who has worked security and had to keep a beam on something/someone/some situation until the cops get there (which can take a while) understands the need for a non-turbo/high mode. Can’t run a bright light at full blast for that long. But no, they aren’t used very often. But it’s funny how everyone I’ve sold to demands SOS and strobe. I guess the feeling of being prepared is that strong.

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Bort wrote:
i’m sorry to hear its all throw, i also don’t find such lights practical

Would Nitecore’s NFD60 diffuser be any good with this to spread the beam, perhaps?

There’s a photo of the beam pattern after fitting the NFD60 here:

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I posted outdoor beamshots for Nitecore EA8 for those that are interested:
Left building are aproximate 140 meters. Center building are aproximate 300 meters and right building (the place where the video goes a bit blur ) is aproximate 200 meters away.
I tryed to get best video fidelity but the camcoder will never pick 100% the brightness intensity and colors that can be seen with naked eyes.

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I really like the Ea8 so far, the beam is pretty tight for the size of the head, I’m impressed

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Picked mine yesterday from post office, must admit its the most impressive of the AA lights(Im NiMh kind of person) and I love it!
I love its modes and the way you switch between them, my tech-geek part like the dual swtich system alot :D!

Its even better than D40A :D! Why? Because it has big head and throws like a mothaphukka!!!
Did I say that I have neutral white version? Well, yes, I have and its tint is great, I think its even more neutral than the one on D40A and definitely not warm like the one in SD10 warm white version that I have!

I will make sure to do my own review focusing on user experience and hopefully some decent outdoor beamshots ranging from 100 to 400 meters, because thats how far I was able to see it throwing while in the city during night time when theres lots of light pollution around ;)!

Long story short – if you can get this light for, lets say, 65$(PM me if you want to know from which reputable seller you could try to get this light in neutral white tint), then go for it, theres nothing that can beat it for the price and performance with AA’s!!!

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I took one with NW tint from Gearbest for 50$.
Flashlight can work with 4 or 8 battery. UI is “interesting”.