Small Sun ZY-A629 XM-L Emitter Swap & OP Reflector

So I finally got a chance to mod my Small Sun ZY-A629 (see Tecmo's review here) with an OP P60 reflector and swap in an XM-L T6 4C (my new favorite tint by the way). I really like the way it turned out and the modes seems a little better spaced than with the original XR-E (modes are Low-Med-High-Turbo with blinky modes hidden for those that don't go read the review). So here is my mod with photos along the way.

(Captions above photos they pertain to.)

Original XR-E in the pill with press-fit battery contact board removed (driver is in the tailcap). Original XR-E was 14mm but pill holds up to 16mm:

Innards of the battery contact board and inside of pill:

Showing battery side of contact board:

What's this? (2) 16mm emitter boards used as spacers? Yep and they won't budge either! Emitter popped right off too:

Original XR-E on a 14mm board:

But the pill will accommodate up to a 16mm board:

A blurry shot of the XM-L T6 4C installed.

The original emitter wires seemed awfully thin so I decided to replace them with 20ga silicone wire I had. I found out that 20ga is a bit too thick and so I'm going to need to get thinner wire. It was a little hard getting the wire through the holes in the pill and the wire to stuff into the pill (the force pushes the press-fit board out the back a little until it's mounted in the light body).

Don't ask me how I can find anything in this mess! I'm getting really bad about throwing my received packages on my workbench, letting them pile up, and not getting around to using the parts for the intended mods! Then better parts come out (i.e. XM-L2's, XP-G2's, Q-lite drivers, etc . . .) and it just perpetuates the cycle! (BTW - that's a chainsaw under the rag that I'm working around.)

Now for the comparison beamshot photos. Now the camera I was using (a cheap Nikon point and shoot set to Landscape mode) kept changing the shutter speed, ISO, etc . . . on me so take these shots with a grain of salt. You can really only judge the beam pattern and not the brightness. I admit I adjusted the images on my PC to brighten them up to look more like what I saw. I used a freshly charged protected Tenergy 2600mAh 18650. All shots on Turbo (except the comparison beamshot). PWM only showed up faintly in the camera. Light & camera both 10' away from my basement wall painted white.

The original stock XR-E (note the rings):

XM-L with the original SMO reflector:

XM-L with an OP reflector:

And a comparison between the ZY-A629 with the XM-L T6 4C (OP reflector) on the left and my Xiaozhi (18650 tube light) XM-L T6 3C on the right. Xiaozhi on medium (50%) and ZY-A629 on "high":

The XM-L T6 4C seems a much better neutral tint rending colors slightly better than the 3C. I really like it! I also like the OP reflector in the ZY-A629 for a smoother beam pattern from hotspot to spill.

I can't give tailcap readings on my new mod yet because my meter was found to be way off (reads way high) and I haven't bought a new meter yet. Comparing it to my Xiaozhi which is a 8x7135 AMC (2.8A) I'd say the ZY-A629 is a hair brighter, but it could be the P60's bigger reflector size resulting in a slightly larger / brighter hotspot. I'd say it's at least running at 2.5A on Turbo mode. I left the light sit on Turbo for awhile (about 5 minutes) and the head was getter hot, but not too hot to hold - probably slightly hotter than my Xiaozhi gets on high.

I'd highly recommend this mod, especially for newbies! It's simple and cheap - $11.33 for host from Manafont, $6.38 for XM-L T6 4C from FastTech or $4.51 for a T6 3C, $1.99 for the OP reflector from FT (with parts to spare), and a little thermal compound or adhesive (I had Fujik on hand). I also reused the clear plastic isolator that came with the light originally, but the FT OP reflector comes with a different style isolator too.

The result is a very nice usable light with 4 modes and well hidden blinkies:

-Garry

Couple more photos:

XM-L in the SMO reflector:

XM-L in the OP reflector:

I also have a "coated glass lens" from KD to put in this light whenever I find it.

-Garry

Did you have to modify the P60 reflector at all? It doesn’t look like it’d just fit as-is….

Edit: NVM - saw the other thread :)… BTW, over there, you were debating about XP-G2, but you apparently decide XM-L?

good to hear you like the 4c tint Gary, its my go to tint, I agree on the colour rendering, I also find it very easy on the eye in general use. My dads birthday light is also 4c and he was made up with it, commenting that he thought leds give a blue light, not this nice light he’s seeing.

Nice mod, thanks for sharing.

Yeah, I like P60 XM-L's. My neutral white XP-G2's are "precious" right now so I'm saving them for now. I want to build a P60 drop-in with one with a 7xAMC 2.5A 3 mode driver. The other I'm not sure. Probably my PrairieFire 26650 light for a thrower.

Yes, as you saw in the other thread the P60 reflectors screw right onto the pill. I did coat the pill threads with thermal compound before screwing it into the body.

It feels good to have a mod work out right! I tend to butcher and kill stuff, but not this time.

-Garry

good work garry!

Oh, and I thought of you Jim when I recommended this mod. Yes Gords, the 4C is very easy on the eyes.

-Garry

if you have a spare 4c on a 20mm star, shove it in the ke-5, that will make a real nice light imo. :bigsmile:

I'd really like it in a larger reflector. And I like the KE-5 the way it is.

-Garry

I kind of had a feeling that that was the case, but I’m still trying to figure out if that was a compliment or an insult…

JUST KIDDING :)!! You should know that by now, right :)???

I am really thinking about this one. Seems like it’d be easy, right up my alley”, but then I would have to go buy another light…

BTW, re. the driver in the tailcap… The first light that I “modded” was one of the “Lumen Master 250” lights, the ones that came in 3-packs at Costco, and those had the driver in the tailcap also.

I had killed one of the ones that I had, I think because I had tried an IMR battery (too much current), and that killed the driver, which was in the tailcap, similar to this Small Sun. Long story short, but I ended up removing the driver and putting a clicky switch from an el-cheapo 9-LED light to replace that, i.e., turned it into a “really” direct drive light.

Boy that brings back memories :)!

Nice mod .

And thanks for the comparison shot with the XIAOZHI .

That 4C tint looks good .

jack, you’ll love 4c in an op reflector, trust me on this.

Nice mod there Mr bunk. I’d love to see a high resolution pic off your work bench just to have a sticky beak. :slight_smile:

Nice mod Garry. And never mind about the work desk. Over here we have a saying that translates into something like this:

"If a messy desk is a sign of a messyhead, what is a empty desk a sign of?" :-)

Nicely done Garry.

Did you happen to compare the XML with each reflector outside? Is there any noticeable benefit in throw with keeping the smooth one?

Nice mod Garry,that beam really cleaned up nice with the OP reflector.I like the design cues of the small sun,seems like a nice functional light now.

I just know you're right , gords . I got lucky with the tint of my Balder SE-1 and I think that it is right about at 4C . Previously , my favorite tint for enhanced CRI was 5C , I have this tint in an old RC-G2 as well as an RC-C3 , both from ShiningBeam .

Of course , I like the temperature as well as the CRI of the Nichia 219 B10 better than anything else right now . I have an L3 L10 with the Nichia , a Uniquefire AA S-1 and now a Sipik 68 that I put Nichias into .

It won't be long before an emitter will show up that has a completely neutral tint and high CRI and can be driven hard - the 90 CRI XMLs I have heard mentioned is a step in the right direction .

Yeah, have 4c xm-l in my L2T currently. Extremely nice neutral tint. If it had the slightest shade more red/pink it would be near perfect neutral IMO.

Mt-g emitter looks promising, for what it is.

I haven't had this light outside to test in the dark. I'm sure the SMO would give more throw, but I wanted a smooth beam and wider flood.

I don't own any Nichias (yet) to compare to. I did try to get pix of the other modes but the camera compensated and the shots came out pretty close to each other. The modes are close spaced but then jumps to "turbo" - maybe twice as bright by eye as "high".

-Garry

Ok, I just got a nice beamshot (along with one from my new SkyEye F13 Shadow JM07 Clone). It's on my camera and not my phone, so it'll be awhile before I get to upload it. I should post it alongside my XP-G 4C Maglite.

-Garry