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Fenix no more at Fasttech

Hi. I notice that Fasttech doesn’t carry Fenix lights anymore :_( . I was looking at the TK75 page in particular and it stated:

This product is no longer available: the manufacturer claims that FastTech did not comply to minimum advertised price (MAP) while prior to listing, FastTech was never informed of any MAP policy/agreement from the manufacturer’s official distributors. We are no longer carrying this product due to unclear distribution policies and requirements.

Is this old news or something recent? I’m kind of disappointed.

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The TK75 is still available at doingoutdoor for $166. Will it be the next to be MAPed ? This is getting crazy.

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i have fenix ld01 and i think it makes good light than cell phone light

 

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I see that all the Olight listings at FastTech are now "out-of-stock" as well....with a MAP disclosure. At this rate, within a month, their inventory will consist only of ecigarettes and keychains !

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Well maybe it’s time we start boycotting certain flashlight brands from now on. It seems to me they want to control the market.

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Why can't FT just leave the price unshown and only viewable in the cart like places like NewEgg do??  Or just list the MAP prices and state additional reductions with "PRICECONTROL" code in cart? m It's not hard to do and it wouldhelp them keep a ton of sales for themselves and keep the manufacturers happy as well.  Sure glad I bought my Jetbeam RRT01 and Nitecore EC1 when I did.  They will probably be next.  This really sucks for us, the buyers. Sad

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I think if I was FastTech I would be telling some flashlight companies that pull this crap to go to hell.

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And take your stinkin flashlights with you.

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well said ilf, I have no issue boycotting any manufacturer that pulls this map crap, they might get the idea its a buyers market then.

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I’m game.

No new Fenix flashlight for me for the rest of the year.

The same goes for Crelant.

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ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS wrote:
And take your stinkin flashlights with you.

Couldn’t agree more.

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Count me in! I hate this kind of BS. Flat Stare

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I’ve been looking at a few brand lights but tbh, they just dont interest me the way building my own does, a boycott is very easy with that standpoint. My list for now is :-

nitecore
fenix
crelant

Its a list that has potential to grow too.

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gords1001 wrote:
I’ve been looking at a few brand lights but tbh, they just dont interest me the way building my own does, a boycott is very easy with that standpoint. My list for now is :-

nitecore
fenix
crelant

Its a list that has potential to grow too.

It looks like Olight may be in on that as well.

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Why don’t you guys come up with some kind of ‘boycott thread’ for each manufacturer you’re upset with and then have people “sign” it digitally. Then after a few hundred (or a few thousand) members sign it… Send the link over to the manufacturer.

Then they can take a look at how many people they’ve made angry with their business practices and perhaps they’ll want to re-evaluate their strategies.

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That would eliminate threads like this & all the trivial whining that goes with them!!!

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Rezolution wrote:
Why don’t you guys come up with some kind of ‘boycott thread’ for each manufacturer you’re upset with and then have people “sign” it digitally. Then after a few hundred (or a few thousand) members sign it… Send the link over to the manufacturer.

Then they can take a look at how many people they’ve made angry with their business practices and perhaps they’ll want to re-evaluate their strategies.

Boys, we have just found our new president.

He’s got my vote to be in charge.

Great idea buddy!

I mean Mr. President. Wink

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Dale wrote:
That would eliminate threads like this & all the trivial whining that goes with them!!!

And that is very much true as well.

So it’s no more new Fenix, Crelant, and NiteCore lights for me. I use the word new due to the fact I can’t turn down a great deal if I find one used and somebody needs some money for help. I like helping folks out that save me money like on ebay. LOL!

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ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS wrote:
Dale wrote:
That would eliminate threads like this & all the trivial whining that goes with them!!!

And that is very much true as well.

So it’s no more new Fenix, Crelant, and NiteCore lights for me. I use the word new due to the fact I can’t turn down a great deal if I find one used and somebody needs some money for help. I like helping folks out that save me money like on ebay. LOL!

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Rezolution wrote:
Why don’t you guys come up with some kind of ‘boycott thread’ for each manufacturer you’re upset with and then have people “sign” it digitally. Then after a few hundred (or a few thousand) members sign it… Send the link over to the manufacturer.

Then they can take a look at how many people they’ve made angry with their business practices and perhaps they’ll want to re-evaluate their strategies.


Great idea! Beer
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How are they selling below minimum?

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It sounds like the XM LEDs won’t really be suitable for flashlight use. Pity…

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This just goes to show how these flashlight companies are ripping us off with their actual prices. Just think what FastTech was getting the Crelant lights for if they were selling them for the prices they listed. Crelant thinks they hit FastTech where it hurts, but actually it was Crelant that hit theirself where it hurts instead. FastTech sent all their Crelant lights back to them for what they paid. FastTech will just pick up some other brand. And Crelant has lost a lot of customers here on these forums I would bet money on it by pulling this MAP crap. Screw Crelant! Same goes for Fenix.

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MAP is legal. Fasttech entered into the agreements with manufacturers like Nitecore, Fenix and others. Fasttech entered into the agreements knowing fully that they would go ahead and break them. So why shouldn't they be punished for it. They lied, they cheated. They are guilty of breaking the agreement. Even the Supreme Court says MAP is legal, so look at it from both sides....

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FastTech tells me and others here they were not told about MAP when they purchased the lights from Crelant and Fenix. So I will just say now that FastTech has yet to lie to me.

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Old-Lumens wrote:

MAP is legal. Fasttech entered into the agreements with manufacturers like Nitecore, Fenix and others. Fasttech entered into the agreements knowing fully that they would go ahead and break them. So why shouldn’t they be punished for it. They lied, they cheated. They are guilty of breaking the agreement. Even the Supreme Court says MAP is legal, so look at it from both sides….


just sayin…


 


It may be legal, but it is an effort to raise prices for consumers by manufacturers.

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the impression I get is that they specifically asked about map and the answer was cloudy, legal or not it stinks and I’m happy to vote with my wallet, I’ll pay for quality of service, I wont pay someone to artificially keep prices high though, how many would have bought an ea4 at the map price rather than the bargain prices they actually paid I wonder? or any of the other brand name lights that many are suddenly buying? I’ll wager there are few brand name lights in anyone’s collection they paid full retail price for.

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hmm reading stuff up,

“Q4. What if a manufacturer asks me to agree not to resell its products below a minimum price, and I choose not to agree to the request. What are the consequences?

A. The manufacturer may decide to sell to you anyway and you are free to resell the products at any price you wish. Alternatively, the manufacturer could decide to terminate your distributor agreement (if there is one) and cease selling to you.”

link: https://www.naw.org/govrelations/advisory.php?articleid=532

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Looking at it from both sides MAP isn’t really about forcing people to pay more, they probably don’t have much variance in what they charge distributers/retailers. It’s more about controlling retail presence and thus volume of product they can put out by having more stores buy stock. Having just a few retailers who specialize in selling your product at the lowest price in volume would probably make it hard convince other retailers to be a new customer and bother paying for and managing inventory for margins that they don’t have the volume to support if they want to compete. If they charge more even the customers who come for other items, and might otherwise have thrown in their product along with their purchases might well skip it in order to get the better price. If they charge the same/less they’d probably have a hard time profiting, at least until if or when they can get enough volume sold. Probably a little discouraging either way.

Encouraging a wide retailer base both helps to build the brand name and supports higher volume of product on the market. Being a layman in this area I can’t say this is the situation for certain, but I’d reason this is the major impetus for MAP.

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