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Racer wrote:
Mine lives in my emergency bag. It fits all my requirements: it’s light, efficient (no PWM) and has a wide range of outputs. With an 8-pack of CR123A primaries in the bag with it, in an emergency I’ll be able to ramp the output down if needed and stretch those batteries for weeks. But of course in an emergency I’ll also have my L10 with some Eneloops and a solar charger, so this headlamp is a nice little luxury for the bag.

I’m happy with my purchase, and will use this seller again.

Today is the first day of hurricane season and the National Hurricane Center says there is a 50% chance of a tropical depression or storm in the Gulf of Mexico this week. Your comment has me thinking I should add one of these to my bug-out bag.
I was looking at the warm versions and found a vendor at AliExpress selling an XP-G2 version (warm or cool). I ordered my Crelant 7G5MT from these guys and was happy with the purchase.
I like the floody beam from my XM-L2 version, but if anyone prefers a tighter beam, they might like the XP-G version better.

I hesitated posting a link to another seller in a thread apparently started by Newestrend, but the original poster hasn’t been back to BLF in almost 6 weeks, so I’m treating this thread as abandoned.

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“Two is one, and one is none.”

For the disaster bag, I think I like the idea of a cooler tint which is slightly more efficient. In an emergency I probably won’t be worried about tint.

Check out my newest addition. I’ve been thinking of adding a 4×18650 battery pack to go along with it, though I’m already at about 50 pounds.

14 watt ultra-lightweight solar charger

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I want to buy a headlamp, but I can’t decide which one. Are the Nitecore headlamps, either the HC50 or HC90, so much better than this one to be worth two or three times as much? I want a light that I can use for hiking or biking, but I could also use for reading or working in close quarters. What do you guys think? Is there another headlamp I should consider. I have owned cheapies, 3 for $10 from Costco, but would like to try something better. Thanks.

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I just got the HC90 and I like the Crelant a lot better.
The HC90 has a sickly green hotspot and a light purple spill. You can see a purple sheen if you look across the glass lens so I’m guessing that’s where the purple spill comes from. The emitter used is very low CRI. I don’t like it at all.
The Crelant has a perfectly white beam. No colors at all. And it seems to be higher CRI than the HC90. Just looking at items around me with both lights (one at a time), colors look washed out and wrong with the HC90.
My Crelant is the cool white version, but still looks better than the HC90.
The HC90 has a much wider hotspot and spill. I suspect the overall light output from the HC90 is greater, but because the Crelant is focused a bit tighter, it appears brighter.
The Crelant headband is too small, but it should stretch out eventually. The Nitecore headband has a lot more adjust-ability and should fit any head; however, the Crelant’s light mount, the part that presses against your forehead, is a soft rubber that easily bends to give a perfect, soft fit, where the Nitecore light mount is a rigid, hard plastic. It’s not a big deal, but the Crelant is noticeably more comfortable against the forehead.
They both have infinite ramping, but the HC90 slider adjustment is easier to operate. The Crelant works fine, it’s just a pain to have to hold down the switch and wait for it to ramp up or down. It works fine, I’m just impatient.
I prefer a wide, smooth beam for close up work, but for hiking and biking, I would want the slightly tighter beam of the Crelant.
At the highest setting, the HC90 draws 2.2A
Turned all the way off, the HC90 standby current is 8mA
At it’s highest setting, the Crelant draws about 1.4A
Turned all the way off, the Crelant standby current is 0.8mA (10 times lower than the HC90).
So the HC90 is making a lot more light, but it’s also discharging the cell 10 times faster then the Crelant when it’s off.

I regret buying the HC90. I like the Crelant a lot better.

Edit- the Crelant cost me $30, the HC90 cost me $75.
Edit 2- for close up work, or reading, I’d just put a diffuser on the Crelant.

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The purple haze on the lens is the AR coating, we like that… It shouldnt give a purple tint to the light though. I havent noticed purple tinges in my AR coated lenses. I guess maybe if its too thick it might, if thats even possible.

But thanks for the comparo stuff, I was looking at a headlamp, and a Crelant might be it…

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I also own the HC50. It’s much more durable looking than the Crelant, and it does have the red LEDs. It’s a great product in itself, but the Crelant does have better tint, a constant current circuit and the ramping which I personally like. The HC50 is also kind of heavy, which is why I swapped it out of my emergency bag and now it’s my around-the-house headlamp. I think the HC50 is built better, but the Crelant has a better driver and tint.

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I ended up buying three of the CRELANT CH10 Cree XM-L2 with warm white tint for about $63 total. Bought them from Aliexpress. I bought three to get the volume discount, but I can give one to my son and one to my son-in-law. All three cost less than one HC90, but the $74 sale price for theHC90 was hard to pass up.

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Looks like you have used tons of force,to break open the unit. Better to swap the wires?

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Sent it back on 5/8/14 and I’m still waiting on them to receive the package. Who knows if they’ll ever get it or send me another one.

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They insist you to send it back? Just prove that it is DOA through images or video. Why waste money on sending back damaged stuff?

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Sent it back on 5/8/14 and I’m still waiting on them to receive the package. Who knows if they’ll ever get it or send me another one.
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I have had great experience with this seller and plan on ordering this to go with the two lights I received this week from them.Ordered on the 3rd  of june, shipped on the 4th and received it on the 12th. 

 

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/CRELANT-CH10-Cree-XM-L2-Stepless...

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Shill post detected Steve Beware of this store.

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Why?

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freeme wrote:
Shill post detected Steve Beware of this store.

No need for concern. I like this store also. Very good communications, price, and fast shipping. I’ve gotten 5 different Crelant lights from them so far.

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freeme wrote:
Looks like you have used tons of force,to break open the unit. Better to swap the wires?

It unscrewed rather easily. The head was glued, but it broke free easily. I was able to reattach the wire without trouble and it works great. I liked it so much, I got another one. :bigsmile:

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freeme wrote:
They insist you to send it back? Just prove that it is DOA through images or video. Why waste money on sending back damaged stuff?
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Sent it back on 5/8/14 and I’m still waiting on them to receive the package. Who knows if they’ll ever get it or send me another one.

I don’t know, they asked me to. It was $12 to send it back. I showed them a picture of the internals with the frayed wires and apparently they’d like to waste more time and money by refunding my shipping and sending me another light. They asked me to send them the tracking number, but the tracking number ceases to work once it’s outside the US. I won’t be ordering from them again. I don’t want the headlamp anymore because I now have two other nice lights. It seems that several people had problems with this light out of the box, even in the small sample contained in this thread. I guess I should have just chalked it up to idiot tax and forgot about it.

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There shipping is fast because they are using priority shipping, which is a good thing as they are free when you purchase multiple units.
Very good communication? I do not think so after speaking with them for number of occasions. Seem like more and more people having trouble with their orders.

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freeme wrote:
Shill post detected Steve Beware of this store.

No need for concern. I like this store also. Very good communications, price, and fast shipping. I’ve gotten 5 different Crelant lights from them so far.

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Still no resolution on my return. I sent the light back on May 8th. I understand that I did business with someone overseas, but they should also have a better policy of resolving issues should they arise.

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Is there low-voltage indicator / overdischarge protection build-in ?
What is the driver type ?
I would expect buck driver because of “Working voltage: 2.7V—8.5V DC” but I see no inductor…

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Just wanted to follow up on my customer service issue. The item arrived back at my door two weeks ago, in the same box I sent it. The item was “refused” unopened. I followed the instructions on where to send it, took pictures to document that the address I put on the package and the one they sent me was the same. Since it is an apartment number and a name instead of the company- I will not post the pictures online. But I contacted them about the $30 I was out for the headlamp and the $12 shipping and they still have yet to respond even though I did it more than a week ago.

Avoid this company, if you want any type of customer service. It’s terrible, and I have a brick for a headlamp.

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Racer wrote:
saypat wrote:
I also have this one, and it is a beauty in all respects! My favorite light in my meager collection.

It’s a superb design and implementation. Nitecore really hit it out of the ballpark with the HC50. I think I will hold off on the HC90 until somebody confirms whether the slider is any good. Seems like maybe they outsmarted themselves with that one.

I have the crelant, found it well made, nice spot with useful flood,although some sort of diffuser would be good depending on what u use it for. quality seems as good as the nitecore nc90 I also have, although I have not taken either apart
can’t comment on seller, as can’t remember where I bought mine, good price though

Nitecore nc90 is nice, pure flood, find the slider switch the most practical solution on any headlight I have used, fast and easy to change light output, especially if your wearing gloves or covered in mud.
plus not possible for water to get through the switch
Bit over priced maybe compared to the crelant considering the quality of both, as least on the outside

I also have a convoy s2 + that I bought on the group buy on here(hope they do another, should have bought more than 2), fixed to my caving hat as a back up, I often find that better than both the above, just the right mix of flood and spot and huge amount of light

Am thinking of using the s2 or Three s2’s as my main light Big Smile

Should add, when I got my nitecore nc90 I thought it was broken, put Samsung battery in and it went off like a disco, white/blue/red/green all flashing like mad and it wasn’t even switched on

Then I realised, flat top Samsung battery + magnet ,inside a headlight with a magnetic switch = disco lol.
changed to a non flat top Samsung battery, it then all worked perfectly

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ericandor wrote:
Is there low-voltage indicator / overdischarge protection build-in ? What is the driver type ? I would expect buck driver because of “Working voltage: 2.7V—8.5V DC” but I see no inductor… …

Any update on those ?
Is it really a CC driver ?

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ericandor wrote:
ericandor wrote:
Is there low-voltage indicator / overdischarge protection build-in ? What is the driver type ? I would expect buck driver because of “Working voltage: 2.7V—8.5V DC” but I see no inductor… …

Any update on those ?
Is it really a CC driver ?

According to review @ swiatelka.pl (link) driver found in CH10 bought on Aliexpress (exact same driver as one seen on pictures posted by TexasToasted), is missing “buck” part of driver.
Therefore it does not support “2 X CR123A” (LED current is 3.2Amps (!) on 2 X CR123A (6V) vs. 1.7Amps on 18650 (4.2V)).

It seems that driver is based on pic12f629 which utilizes high frequency PWM to drive LED (via MOSFET), so it seems that it is not “constant-current circuit and output-luminance”…

Any comments on that?

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Has anyone succeed in removing the switch?

I’m not sure how it is attached, maybe press fit?

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

9 NarsilM user videos including GT
http://bit.ly/narsil-vid1

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