Review: Callie's Kustoms 18650 test

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Review: Callie's Kustoms 18650 test

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Sent to me for testing by Callie's Kustoms 

There is a thread about them here : on budgetlightforum 

 

Battery has protection circuit

Length is 68.9mm

Diameter is 18.5mm @ widest point .

 


Now these Batteries  are built on the Panasonic 3100 cell , which is the latest release from Panasonic and they are 4.2v , and can be discharged down to 2.5v . A lot of flashlights will not be able to take advantage of this lower voltage capability as they have built in discharge protection @ 3v . But for a few lucky people , who may have buck boost low voltage drop ins , like the Solarforce 0.8v - 4.2v , will have the ability to suck these batteries dry.


Discharging the battery in my Imax B6 @ 0.5A , I got some 2700mAh from 4.2v to 3v , and some 


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2919mAh when discharged all the way down to 2.5v @ 0.5A .  I did use the Nimh setting as it allows a much larger voltage variation for discharge , for the , to 2.5v discharge . 


For comparison :

Hi-max 2600 = 2379mAh @ 0.5A to 3v 

Xtar 2600 = 2448mAh @ 0.5A to 3v

Samsung 28A = 2488mAh @ 0.5A to 3v 

Sanyo 2600 = 2433mAh @ 0.5A to 3v 


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The last graph is the run time test in my MTE SSC P7 , and please take note that after 120minutes I have gone in 10 minute steps rather than 5 minute steps . 


The other batteries begin to fall of around the 60 minute mark and seriously lose power , while the Callie's Kustoms 18650 continues to deliver power . Now the CK 18650 still has good reserves of power even with the voltage dropping of and running Direct Drive [ Which the MTE is ] , means that Voltage plays a large roll in output . For those folks running Buck boost or regulated lights [ Light maintains a steady output as long as possible ] will see much better gains from running a high capacity battery than those folks running Direct Drive . 


 Who would benefit from a CK 18650 , well just about anyone , but I can see a real purpose for this battery with anyone requiring light for as long as possible , Police , Search and Rescue , Med Techs , etc . When lives are on the line those 30 or more extra minutes of run time , could be the difference in some ones life . Who said ? what is your life worth ? 


  If we average out the run time for the other batteries at 80 minutes , the Callie's Kustoms 18650 [ in this light ] takes you to 140 minutes , that's a gain of some 60 minutes over 80 minutes , and in my book , that's one hell of a gain . And if you look at the discharge test [ Current with various lights ] , you can see the CK 18650 compares well to the other batteries I have tested recently . 


Thank you Calie's Kustoms for allowing me to test your battery , It is a very nice battery and I hope others can see the benefits it offers .. 


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 Always remember , the easiest thing in the world to do , is to expel hot air from your lungs and through some vocal chords ..
The resulting sound may , or may not be worth listening too ….

 

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Sweet, good to see another nice product and an upfront seller here on BLF!

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It seems a good option for high peferormance battery.

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just checked there website *No international Orders*

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The one problem I have is that these are BIG. I can't even come close to getting one in my Zebralight SC60w and it even catches the neg. end (protection circuit) a little in an L2p.

The performance is great, but it can't perform if I can't get it in the light. I'm probably just going to strip the cell bare since the light I'm most concerned with already has low voltage cut-off built in.

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Fits my L2s just fine , almost a perfect fit in the L2T ... 

I guess there would be some variation - Do you have a DIA on those ? 

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Fits my L2 fine as well. It even rattles a little.

It DOES fit the L2P, it must just have a little ridge that catches the opening as it going in. Also, with an AW 2900 I had a piece of paper in it to stop any rattle, the CK would not go in with the paper in there.

 

i don't trust my caliper or the person using it (me) but here's what I measured:

CK 3100 at protection circuit: 18.48mm

L2P ID: 18.83mm

SC60w ID: 18.43mm

L2 ID: 18.96mm

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Not a bad performance at all. I mostly prefer a half powered 8-10 hours powerlight and only need full power for seconds. And CK seems to jump a step forward in this. 

Thanks for the review. 

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Can try Redilast 3100s, they do international.  Should be the same stuff and lower price for International.

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does anyone know where the protection circuit used on the battery comes from? Thanks

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I just left the CPF in anger.  A member posted a question looking for the highest power in a protected 18650. So I posted the link to Callie's Customs and they summarily deleted it.  Rather questionable behavior.

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Unless the link is to a payed advertiser , they will agresively remove such ....

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The resulting sound may , or may not be worth listening too ….

 

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ufokillerz, check the Budget Light Forum thread, linked at the top of this thread tells all about it.

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thanks cabfrank!

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2100 wrote:

Can try Redilast 3100s, they do international.  Should be the same stuff and lower price for International.

 

Do you know where to get them the cheapest possible?

They are at 19.75$ each plus 2.5$ shipping each (more than two it is slightly cheaper per battery).


Or if anyone could get the CK for me within the US, I could ask on a spanish forum I belong to make a group buy and try to reduce the costs a little, at least it could be 4 batteries for me and another colleague.

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Callies are $14.95... I guess I missed something. Why the Redilast if Callie's cost $5 less?

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scottyhazzard wrote:
Callies are $14.95... I guess I missed something. Why the Redilast if Callie's cost $5 less?

I have just found Callie´s also offer international shipping, but they are 23.9$ each plus 6$ shipping which I find too expensive.Here is the link for international shippings http://callieskustoms.com/CalliesKustoms-BatteriesInternational.html

So, redilast would be the cheapest option unless someone could get the Callie´s in the US and send them to Spain..

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Whoa! That's a jump in price! Now I get the reasoning for Redilast. I wonder why they are so expensive plus shipping?

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yavi wrote:

scottyhazzard wrote:
Callies are $14.95... I guess I missed something. Why the Redilast if Callie's cost $5 less?

I have just found Callie´s also offer international shipping, but they are 23.9$ each plus 6$ shipping which I find too expensive.Here is the link for international shippings http://callieskustoms.com/CalliesKustoms-BatteriesInternational.html

So, redilast would be the cheapest option unless someone could get the Callie´s in the US and send them to Spain..

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scottyhazzard wrote:

I just left the CPF in anger.  A member posted a question looking for the highest power in a protected 18650. So I posted the link to Callie's Customs and they summarily deleted it.  Rather questionable behavior.

What's the their stated reason for deletion? 

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I posted a link for Kallies. It's not allowed. Some people do it without being censored.  Just lucky I guess.  Also ass-baiting is not allowed. Not sure what that is 'though. Also they don't like it when you say bad things about $urefire lights.  Whatever.

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They sure deliver fast. I order a couple of the new 3100's on Wednesday, delivered to my house in Illinois on Friday!

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They are a nice battery for sure! 

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Must be great batteries for sure.

 

Whats the difference between these and NCR18650A Panasonic protected?

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Nothing.  Same battery, just a proprietary wrapper. 

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Different protection circuit as well.

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Nothing.  Same battery, just a proprietary wrapper. 

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You are absolutely correct sir.  I forgot the protection circuit.  The cell itself is the same. Protection circuit is different.

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The only problem seems to be the price, at $28 a cell I can buy 4 Xtar 2600 or himax!

Fabulous review though!

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