Beamshots: Comparison of modified budget thrower favourites

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Beamshots: Comparison of modified budget thrower favourites

Got some XM-L2 U2 2C emitters this weekend. So I finished three throwers. Smile Did not get them as high up in the 5 or into the 6A range as hoped for, but they became decent.

 

First some shots of the lights. I think many will recognize many of them. I don't have many toilet plunger style throwers anymore. Here are most om my throwers. I also included Convoy L4 as a stock reference light.

BTU -Lustefire - Solarstorm - COUROI

COUROI -HD2010 - ZYT08 - ZYT08- L4 - UFT20- CNQ zoom host

 

Ill just say 5A+ on some of the lights that are in the 5-6A range. All lights have copper mcpcb.

Camera settings: 1 sec, F4, ISO 800, auto WB.

Auto WB means that these shots are not meant for comparing tints.

Sorry about some blurry shots. I had little time to do these shots, and rushed them. I went full retard and used the camera for support for the flashlights when taking some of the shots. And I did not check it.. oh well...

The Convoy L4 was just used for reference, its not really a thrower.

Zoom Shots (55mm aps-c)

Control: 

BTU Shocker - 3x XM-L2 U2 2C, around 5,5A

Lustefire 3x U2 1A (one two emitters de-domed). About 4,5A (was using KP 4500mAh cells)

Solarstorm SP03 ("shorted" resistors). 4x NCR18650PF, about 4A to each emitter?

The big headed Courui. XM-L2 U2 2C. 5A+

HD2010 XM-L2 U2 1A 5A+

ZY-T08 6,4A regulated. XM-L2 U2 1A de-domed

ZY-T08 5A+ XM-L2 U2 2C

Convoy L4, stock with  U2 1A

Uniquefire UF-T20, dedomed XP-G2 R5 1A @ 3,7A

Another small aspheric zoomie (host from CNQ). dedomed XP-G2 R5 1A @ 3A

 

WIDE ANGLE SHOTS (17mm aps-c)

BTU Shocker. I must have used medium for this shot :/ 

Lustefire, notice the wider spill compared to BTU.

Solarstorm

Curoui (slightly lower in the 5A range compared to HD2010 when these shots were taken)

HD2010

ZY-T08 dedomed (constant 6,4A)

ZY-T08

Convoy L4

UF-T20

CNQ zoom ashperic

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Fantastic shots RaceR86. It puts things into perspective. If I have asked this question before I apologise, what is the rough diameter of a single shocker reflector? Measured through the glass lens would be fine. I'm just curious how it compares to a C8 reflector.

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Thanks for the comparison! The dedomed ZY-T08 is one of my favorites.

"Whoa that's a bright light!" ... Yea I guess.

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MRsDNF wrote:

Fantastic shots RaceR86. It puts things into perspective. If I have asked this question before I apologise, what is the rough diameter of a single shocker reflector? Measured through the glass lens would be fine. I'm just curious how it compares to a C8 reflector.

 

Did you shake your head or something in order to make the blurry shots sharp MRsDNF?  Big Smile

A single BTU shocker reflector is roughly 42mm wide. So they are wider than a C8.

Beer

 

Chazzy wrote:
Thanks for the comparison! The dedomed ZY-T08 is one of my favorites.

Yupp, its great. Easy to fit in a pocket. And even with half empty cells its got full output, unlike all the other lights in this comparison.

I used to have a ZY-T13 and STL-V6 before. But I prefer to have two cells in series in a shorter more pocket friendly body.

Im not that into de-domed XM-L2s though. But that light have an emitter with very nice tint. I picked the best out of around 4 emitters, and the 3 others looked like crap in comparison. I was really lucky with it, so im not pushing it harder than 6,4A. But the driver, HX-1175B can do whatever I want to do in terms of output. I took it from the lustefire.

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Great shots RaceR86. Thanks for setting them up. Looks like you have someone aiming them down from the top of a cliff. Those lumens must be just falling right of those flashlights.

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Thanks. Yes my head shakes a lot. One, in amazement at what some members here can do and achieve, two, I cant say as it against forum rules and thirdly when I get home from work (l'll leave the last two to your own imagination). Smile

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awesome comparison shots.. just wondering, what kind driver or mod is the one being used in 6.4A constant current for ZY-T08?
‘cos I got 3 that begging to be mod Smile

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Wow, great shots!

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Thanks Ouchy.

Im a bit higher than the ground below (about 3 meters). I just hand held the lights above the camera, somewhere between 0-30cm away from it.


MRsDNF, I was thinking about including your little 14500, but im only using a Protected Sanyo cell in it. I dont have any IMR14500 so I cant show off its full potential. At 2A+ its still a very good thrower considering the size. I used it on my keychain for several months in the winter. Smile


Thanks Daylighter. HX-1175B, slightly trimmed.


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There really is alot to like about the HD2010 and ZYT08. Cheap as chips and can be made to perform very well.

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mudgripz wrote:
There really is alot to like about the HD2010 and ZYT08. Cheap as chips and can be made to perform very well.

I prefer the grip, size and weight of the HD2010 over the ZYT08. But it needs a hot-rod cell in order to really shine. Ive built mine up with a souped up Qlite. Its a great overall light. When that is said. It does pretty well with something like a King Kong or Keeppower 4500mAh cell too.

In the ZY-T08 with cells in parallel there is no need for "hot-rod cells" since the load will mostly be less than 2,5-3A even in a "hot" light, so you can still use high capacity cells, and still get great peak output and fantastic runtime.

Or you can just get fantastic output from start to finish if the cells are in series and combined with a buck driver. Properly regulated light is just awesome! But then at the expensive of having a basic 5-mode driver and a slightly less safe and simple battery setup.

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My twin cell HD2010 with copper throughout leaves the stock light for dead and is a usable camp light with a long run time on maximum if needed. I like it a lot. In this set up as well the MTG-2 operates ideally with a reasonable hot spot.

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Great shots ! Smile

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Great beamshots. Thank you for this comparison!

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Thanks for taking time to do this! I especially like the dedomed T08. Impressive focus and tight beam!

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great shots at a pretty interesting spot. looks like a camp ground.
nice collection as well

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Great shots!
You have some nice flashlights !!!!
I saw that you lit up the sky in west Norway, all the way to me … 198 miles .. Smile

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haha.. Kurt_Norway  Big Smile

Glad you guys found the shots useful.

I noticed I said one emitter in the Lustefire was de-domed in OP. Its actually two.

If anyone have any questions about the lights feel free to ask..

 

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I have a modded T08 too but yours is even crazier! 6.4A with constant current regulation lol.

Did you measure the lux reading of your 6.4A T08?

And where can I get the HX-1175B driver?

Great beamshots and thanks!

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Super shots. Thanks for sharing, this one should be stickied because it’s really a valuable resource for people who are wondering which lights they should buy for modding.

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Great beamshots! Thanks for sharing Smile

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Very nice comparative photos…thanks

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bibihang wrote:
I have a modded T08 too but yours is even crazier! 6.4A with constant current regulation lol.

Did you measure the lux reading of your 6.4A T08?

And where can I get the HX-1175B driver?

Great beamshots and thanks!

+1

I’m interested with the lux reading too. My modded T08 (dedomed XM-L2 T6 1B on SinkPads & ‘blobbed’ resistors) only gives me 5.614 Amps and 151K lux. It is surpassed by my modded Yupard 3405 (dedomed XP-G2 R5 1A on SinkPads & ‘blobbed’ resistors) which gives me 160K lux at 2.709A.

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Nice shots!

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I love when people do these comparisons. Those wide-angle shots are the best! Very informative going back and forth between the pics, trying to see which beam I like the most!

One question, is there currently any flashlight available right now, that has the Solarstorm SP03 triple reflector, but in a smaller size that would fit the ZY-T08? I love the amount of light that the SP03 puts out, but love the ZY-T08 smaller size. Is there a best of both world's flashlight that takes from both, and combines into one?

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Warrior? It's a triple, but 3 cells (http://budgetlightforum.com/node/22780)

Need big reflectors for throw, so anything smaller won't throw as well.

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Seriously nice comparative beam shots.  Thank you.

That is one sweet collection of big lights.  You're BLF Certified for the recently rescheduled zombie apocalypses.   OK, I'm not authorized to issue the certificates.  But, whoever is should issue you one right now.  I just slobberized my computer screen looking at those lights and beam shots.

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bibihang wrote:
I have a modded T08 too but yours is even crazier! 6.4A with constant current regulation lol. Did you measure the lux reading of your 6.4A T08? And where can I get the HX-1175B driver? Great beamshots and thanks!

Good source for HX-1175B? I cant say for certain. Check this thread. One source (from aliexpress) mentioned in that thread seems to advertise HX-1175B, but ships out a less powerful HX-1175C. Maybe ouchy had a good link? Again see that thread.

I actually down adjusted the current of my HX-1175B to 6,4A in order to be a bit safer, some info here.

 

About lux. Nice you asked about the ZY-T08 and not any of the others, because its the only light I have measured. Big Smile

202.000@ 1 meter  with a lux meter that reads lower than most/many and no AR lens. Measured at 5 and 10 meters. If I add a calibration value that would get me closer to people with higher lux readings (which seems to be owners of LX-1330B lux meter) I should be looking at around 230-260kcd.

Getting comparable lux values with other members with different lux meters is really hard. Especially since the readings can vary a lot between different lux meters.  Im trying to gather some useful info on stock Convoy L4 lights in this thread just to see what differences people see on their different lux meters.

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blfdemigod wrote:

One question, is there currently any flashlight available right now, that has the Solarstorm SP03 triple reflector, but in a smaller size that would fit the ZY-T08? I love the amount of light that the SP03 puts out, but love the ZY-T08 smaller size. Is there a best of both world's flashlight that takes from both, and combines into one?

 

The Solarstorm SP03 is as small, or at least as short as you can get a light with that reflector. The reflector is wider than the whole width of a Z08.

There is a triple reflector that is larger than in warrior/SRK light. You can find it in the Shadow SL-3, see size comparison between that, SRK and ZY-T08 here. The Trustfire 3800 (TR3T6 larger brother) also have a very similar sized reflector to the Shadow SL-3, if not the same size. But with 3 stock and conservatively driven XM-Ls its no thrower. I modded a Trustfire 3800 with higher current and three XM-L2 U2 1A, one dedomed, it got decent range. But if you want to get a thrower with a fairly compact triple reflector. XP-G2s is the way to go. I considered to include my Supbeam M6, with XP-G2s, two dedomed. Its got good range, but I had to draw the line at some place. I have several floody lights with good range.

I don't know where a 3 emitter reflector that is larger than SRK can be bought. Best of both worlds? ZY-T08 modified with a 5 emitter reflector like OL did. 4 de-domed XP-G2s and one emitter to improve the tint in the middle. Should throw great and have good output too.

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ImA4Wheelr wrote:

Seriously nice comparative beam shots.  Thank you.

That is one sweet collection of big lights.  You're BLF Certified for the recently rescheduled zombie apocalypses.   OK, I'm not authorized to issue the certificates.  But, whoever is should issue you one right now.  I just slobberized my computer screen looking at those lights and beam shots.

Thanks buddy. I might have pulled the trigger a certain Fenix large headed light too...  0:)

Thanks to everybody else for comments as well! Smile

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