Cree XPL

If you liked XML you gonna love this

The XLamp® XP-L LED is the first commercially available single-die LED to deliver breakthrough efficacy of up to 200 lm/w at 350 mA. The game-changing Cree® XLamp XP-L LED delivers an immediate performance increase of 50% or more as a drop-in upgrade for lighting designs based on Cree’s market-leading XLamp XP-G LEDs. As the brightest member of the industry’s only family of high-density-class discrete LEDs, the new XP-L LED redefines system performance, cost and size of LED lighting.

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First impressions.

Has a big dome so unlikely to squeeze under XP optics, we tried it under Carclo and Ledil 20mm triples, no go, will work with XM optics, Reflectors will offer more flexible options

25% more light or 25% less power needed to drive and should price point between XPG-2 and XML-2

https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/26738

I think you are the first person to try it under some optics, or to even have it to begin with.

You already have one!?

I cant wait to get 3 of them and swap them onto the triple XP noctigon and stick it in an S6 with a FET driver and see how far I can push it (even if I have to have a ~10 sec turbo timer lol)

You can’t fit it under the triple optic. Will you run a mule configuration? He seems to be from Cutter, so I’m betting he has more than just 1.

Looks like they’ve got these in stock: U6 80-CRI White 2700-4000K
http://cutter.com.au/products.php?cat=Cree+XPL

Bastards ...

Their warehouse is probably lit up twenty four seven

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I’ll be dedoming, I prefer the warmer tint anyway and under a TIR the beam profile won’t be effected.

Plus I’m sure carlco is working on new lens’s just in soon as they heard about this.

I see a ton of Ebay sellers already making false-claims that their flashlights have a ” XP-L ” or XP-L U2 ” emitter, when the lights actually have the standard XM-L. ( do a search for Cree XP-L on ebay. :stuck_out_tongue:

XPL3 U6 premium super CREE 10000 lumen flashlight. :bigsmile:

You forgot the included 5000mAh ultrafire 18650.

lol its sad that there is absolutely no control on Ebay with retarded seller claims.

And people believe it is what amazes me most, i guess they have had enough truth in advertising for so long that they believe anything they are told. Perhaps that explains how certain automakers are still making cars.

Works nice on a 32mm triple PCB with Cute optics. The beam is not unlike the XML in the same configuration and on a 10mm we tried them with Regina reflector, also not bad but not going to throw like an XPE

Cheers

I presume cutter has some XP-L on order. Whats the lead time?

Saw those too, problem is many people will find that ok, kind of tells you about the other taken for granted LEDs like XM-L2 U2.

should have some details on shipping dates this week

Cheers

Mark

You guys need to open a warehouse in Denmark man!

would love that except the winters look a bit cool

cheers

Mark

Welight any idea on flux bins that will be available when you launch sales?

Datasheet hides some of the output differences since they are binning at 1050mA instead of 700mA but in cool white they are showing V3-V5 bins. For those reading that’s not a typo V as in Victor not U as in Uniform. It seems like they are hiding the comparison between the XP-L and XM-L2 though once you compare. At low currents an XP-L V3 has higher outputs you’d expect from the binning. The flux to current curve shows it increasing less with more current though. Extrapolating XM-L2 output from the curve though a U2 bin is slightly ahead of the XP-L V3, competitive with the V4 and slightly behind the V5. The curves/ratings are at 85 degrees C so it’s not like they are capturing a real world difference in thermal droop from a different package. It certainly looks like they made a tweak that is more efficient at lower currents but doesn’t increase output at the same rate as the XM-L at higher currents.

Till the community can get hands on and test these seem like they are best for smaller/less heavily driven lights than the XM-L2. They advertise a lower price point and better output there. For the wildly overdriven lights (> 3A) “some” prefer here they might be a step back in everything but price and package size.

Cree dont bin by current but certainly do by temp or to be more accurate they produce data on performance at temperatures that represent more likely operating conditions. They are tending to produce bin ranks that reflect the higher drive currents that many people will drive these leds at. My take on this product is that it drops the price on XML-2 performance, its acceptance dependent on optic performance

sorry should have also said we will be stocking the highest flux bins in available colours, will have both emitters and will also have them on Noctigan boards