Review: Convoy M2 2014 Version (XM-L2 T6 4C, 1x18650)


Convoy M2 2014 Version

(Tested with 8x7135 driver and XM-L2 T6 4C emitter)

Reviewer's Overall Rating: ★★★★½

Quick Summary:

Battery: 1x18650
Switch: Rearward clicky on the back
Modes:

Group 1: Low, Medium, High

Group 2: Low, Medium, High, Strobe, SOS

LED Type: Cree XM-L2 T6 4C
Lens: Normal glass
Tailstands: Yes, very stable
Price Paid:

This light was provided by Shenzen Convoy Electronics

Price from: 23,91$

Price as tested: 25,66$

From: Shenzen Convoy Electronics
Date Ordered:

Ordered 2nd September

Received 15th September




Pros

  • Very nicely machined with no sharp edges

  • Well thought out design

  • Good looking and feeling matt black HAIII anodizing

  • No pill (Looks like unihead construction, which means great heat transfer and low weight)

  • Many tint options

  • My light with 4C tint had a very nice tint without any excessive yellow as sometimes can be seen in these.

  • Driver output options

  • Perfect tailstand

  • Nice bezel

  • Perfect OP reflector with nicely centered emitter

  • Excellent big beefy square threads

  • 3/5 mode driver (means you can "hide" Strobe and SOS)

  • Lockout (unscrew tailcap a little bit, and the light is 100% safe for accidental activation)

So, so:

- Aluminium MCPCB

- No AR lens

- A bit tall centering ring

- Driver/UI could be better

- Very minor rings in the outer spill (due to stock centering ring??)

- Despite that the new anodizing may be less slippery compared to earlier, its still slippery compared to a light with good knurling

- Screw holes that could secure the emitter/mcpcb to the body was not used

- No anti-roll

Cons:

-No major cons, only the list of minor stuff above


Introduction

This light was provided by Simon from Shenzen Convoy Electronics. Its the new and improved Convoy M2 that just hit the market. It seems some of the Convoy lights are currently getting an upgrade. Better thermal path (no pill) seems to be one of the several upgrades done to these lights. Lets take a better look.

Unboxing:

My light arrived in less than 2 weeks. It was an order with some emitters and stuff, so package may have been larger than when just ordering the light. Nothing fancy but nicely packed as witnessed by the square looking white box that the flashlight came in.

Bezel was a bit loose, so I tightened it. There was some minor marks/dust/dirt or something on it that I rubbed of.

Size comparison with other lights:

Compared with some P60s (Convoy M2 in the middle)

Despite similar appearance to a P60 the M2 reflector is a bit wider, and also a good amount deeper.

Compared to Convoy family: From left: 3x S-series lights, M2, M1, L4

Design/build quality/teardown: ★★★★★

Lets start with getting it wet. ^^

No moist inside after seeing lots of water.

Matte black does not look that good when wet.. oh well.. Still a nice looking flashlight. :)

As the reflector inside the light narrows in, the heatsink fins becomes larger. Good! :)

Nice looking bezel.

Orange peel reflector:

Anodizing on my light was immaculate.

The tailcap is perfectly designed from an exterior point of view.

Example:

Convoy S2+ at the left wobbles when tailstanding due to only having one lanyard hole. So does the Convoy L4 all the way to the right when using a lanyard.

Convoy M1, second from the right is good.

Convoy M2 (NEW 2014 version) second from the left does not only have the switch deeper down, but its also very easy to press thanks to two thumb cutouts. Edges are also smoother compared to some of the other Convoy lights.

These are small details, but nice stuff that separates good from the excellent.

If you look away from some dust after drying the flashlight you will notice massive thick heavy square threads. Which are anodized and lubed. This means lockout is possible too.


Tailcap retaning ring unscrew clockwise. The body tube does not rest on the retaning ring, so the body will not help unscrewing the ring like on some lights. Nice gold plated spring. Probably a step up from the shorter bronze springs often found in Convoy flashlights. Thanks to the length of it (and tube size), long protected and short unprotected cells fits in the flashlight.

A little white omten swtich. I consider Omten switches to be good reliable switches that can handle a good amount of current.

The contact board seems to be attached to the retaining ring.

Emitter sits deep in the reflector. (Not pictured with stock centering ring)

A good amount of very thin/wet thermal paste. Aluminium mcpcb.

Four holes, but no screws were used to hold the emitter/mcpcb down.

Here is the stock centering ring. Its a bit tall and according to my unofficial test, it was stealing about 1% of light output.

Retaining ring that sits nicely on the edge of the nanjg105C driver.

Some room for stacking more 7135 regulators if that is desired.

All parts:

User interface: ★★★½

Many know the UI. Its the fairly typical 2 group nanjg105C driver.

Group 1: Low(5%), Medium (40%), High (100%)

Group 2: Low, Medium, High, Strobe, SOS

In order to change group you have to set the light in "low" mode. Wait for about 5 seconds. You will then see a blink. Change mode, or turn the light off right after the blink and you will change the group.

The good thing with the driver is that it is flexible, and that it can be a 3-mode only driver with fairly well spaced modes. Its also regulated. That is until battery voltage becomes too low, then it will not be able to maintain the full 2,8A.

The not so great/nitpicking:

Slight PWM whine on medium. Also a little bit on low, but its close to nothing. The whine is very low. Depending on hearing ability/age this may not be noticeable. Depending on use and environment, this light can be 100% silent even for people that can hear the whine.

Its got mode memory, but the light needs to be on for 2 seconds (or more) in order to store it, and it have to be off in 2 seconds (or more) in order to not change to next mode when you turn the light on again.

Once you been in a mode for a little bit you have to do an extra half click in order to get to the next mode.

Due to this driver having two mode groups, you will always see a blink after 5 seconds when you are in low mode. And if you want to change mode at that moment, you have to wait a little bit, otherwise you risk changing mode group.

Low voltage warning is good, but there is no cutoff. Meaning protected cells are recommended otherwise the cell can be drained too much if the light is accidentally turned on in a bag, pocket or something. (I have yet to double check this)

Could be a wider difference between the modes (preferably lower low, and lower medium).

Runtime : ★★★★

Runtime is highly dependent on cell. Not only mAh, but how the discharge curve looks like. This is because the driver will not be able to maintain max output when cell voltage becomes too low. That means lower the output and increased runtime (especially on high). There are no moonlight, or superlow low that will increase maximum runtime. Due to how a linear driver works, efficiency on the lower modes will not be as good as on high.

Based on amp draw at the tail a 3400mAh cell will in theory give you.

1,2hours +++ on high (Use a Panasonic battery and you will get a lot more runtime than 1,2 hours, but with very low output at the end)

3 hours +

24 hours (roughly)

If anyone want to know runtime more exact, use the battery you typically use, and time it.

Light output, tint and beam: ★★★★½

Amps measured at the tail:

2,79A (100%

1,14A (41%)

0,14A (5%)

Output measured by me:

651 lumen OTF @ 30 seconds. I expect that reading to be a bit low due to the way it was measured.

This light was just as bright as a CW Yezl Y3 without the lens installed. A light that runs about the same current. (Which means the M2 is brighter). Its got fairly similar output comared with Convoy M1, but all my lights are modified, so its hard to do an exact comparison.

I measured 13797 kcd @ 30 seconds from 15 meter range.

I did a very unscientific 6 minute runtime comparison test between my M1 and M2. Heat sag var pretty much the same , but my M1 was running at 3A and had the emitter mounted on Noctigon and screwed down to the pill. Either way, its good and with very little drop in output.


Tint:

The 4C tint in my light looks good. No excessive yellow or anything. Im really happy with the tint. Not a large difference in color through out the beam either.



Beamshots:

Might add some at a later point? .. maybe.. Read about the beam to get a picture of it.

Beam:

Convoy M1 reflector at the left, M2 reflector at the right:

M1 reflector is slightly wider

Same depth (if you overlook the centering ring on the M1 reflector)

I would expect the M1 to outthrow the M2 due to wider reflector. My slightly modified M1 have slightly more output. But in my case, the skinnier M2 had better throw both measured and visually. That may be because I have a WW emitter in my M1. Either way, visually the M2 looks like a more "throwy beam", this is because its got a bit less wide side spill, and therefore more light in the "main beam". I am usually a fan of shorter reflectors but the very outer spill, the spill that you never see on pictures, and that is right is front of your feet is just as wide and bright as the M1. So its good.

Compared to a P60 with XM-L2 this light has more throw.

Compared to a small "S" series Convoy this seems like a thrower. :D

Compared to a Convoy L4/C8, it does not have that great throw.

Good output considering the size of the light and price range, although it could have been a tad better.

Value/rivals: ★★★★

Could I ask for more ( copper mcpcb, AR lens, etc)? Yes. But considering the great build quality, all the pros and all. I would say that this light offer great value.

I think the main rivals to the Convoy M2 are other Convoy lights. Mainly the M1.

I used to own a Roche F8. One of the first generations without the anti roll ring. Price is not that different, but the Roche F8 was a bit more expensive. It had nice features like a screw in reflector, AR lens, and also had a unihead body. If my memory is correct, it had a shorter reflector compared to the M2. The downsides to the my F8 (IMO), too slippery, "over-engineered" in ways that was not necessary, which made it heavy. Also less mod friendly as I had one of the earlier versions that had a press fit ring for the driver, and needed 20mm adapter. It did not fit long or fat cells either. It was a nice light, but for me, the lighter, more grippy, cheaper, larger reflector M2 with its better cell flexibility took its place.

You can buy nice Solarforce P60 lights, but they will quickly become more expensive, have worse thermal transfer, and smaller reflectors despite being similar size.

There are various premium lights that could be considered rivals, but in most cases you have to pay a lot more, and in some departments M2 will still beat them.

Most cheap "Ebay lights" in similar price range are rarely close if you are looking for a quality light.


Detailed specs and facts (my numbers):

Performance:

  • Light Output: 651 Lumen OTF @ 30sec (Expect this reading to be a bit low.)

  • Beam Intensity: 13797Kcd @ 30 sec

  • Lens loss: About 5%

  • Loss due to bezel: Less than /about 1%

  • Loss due to centering ring vs slimmer "butterfly centering ring": Less than/about 1%

Power Source Options:

  • 18650 (Fits my longest protected cells and also unprotected cells)

Switch type:

  • Tailcap reverse-clicky

Modes, PWM, drain:

  • 2 Mode groups: Group 1: Low, medium, High Group 2: Low, Medium, High, SOS, Strobe

  • Tailcap Amps: 2,79A, 1,14A, 0,14A

  • PWM: xxx Hz (Never measured)

  • PWM whine: Yes. A slight whine in medium, basically zero whine in lowest mode

  • Low voltage warning: Yes, starts to blink

  • Low voltage cut-off: No

Memory:

  • Mode memory, must be on for 2 seconds in order to store it. Must be off for about 2 seconds in order to not change mode when starting up again.



Dimensions:

  • Overall Length: 135mm

  • Bezel Diameter: 31,4mm

  • Neck Heat Sink Diameter: 31,4mm

  • Body Diameter: 25,35mm

  • Tail Diameter: 26,2mm

  • Reflector Inner Diameter: 26,2 mm

  • Reflector Outer Diameter:28,45 mm

  • Reflector Depth: 22,39 mm

  • Reflector Emitter hole Diameter: About 7,09 mm (typical butterfly looking 7mm centering fits perfectly)

  • Lens Diameter: 28,89 mm (this is absolute maximum size that will fit in the light)

  • Lens Thickness: 1,7 mm

  • Emitter MCPCB : 20 mm (20,6 on the widest, 1,6mm thick, Aluminium)

  • Driver diameter: 17 mm

  • Driver room depth: About 7,6mm (Maybe less depending on where you measure. Seems like its good room for stacking 7135`s)

  • Driver room hole diameter (smallest section) :16,15mm

  • Surface thickness below mcpcb: Maybe 2mm?? (Hard to say for sure, did not get a good measurement)

Misc:

  • Waterproof: Yes (According to my under spring test that lasted for minutes)

  • Anodizing: Matte black (Manufacturer says HAIII)

  • Bezel material: Titanium? (I think its titanium. Not 100% sure)

  • Lubed from factory: Yes, a little bit of lube on the threads

Weights :

  • Overall: 108,2g without battery

  • Ready to use: 155,4g (with Protected NCR18650 PD)


Conclusion: ★★★★½

Convoy lights are famous for being great lights with very good bang for the buck. With the new 2014 version of the M2 they have done it again. IMO, there are no real cons, but the list of things that are "so so" could have been a bit shorter. So I`ll deduct half a point. When that is said, this is a fantastic light, and if you want a P60 sized light with great build quality, good output, good range (considering size and output), tint options, etc, etc. Well, you have found it! :)

Modding the Convoy M2

Reviewer's Overall Rating as a mod host: ★★★★

Thanks to tint options, and up towards 2,8amp drivers, there may not be much need to mod this light. But, as seen in the teardown, this a great light for modding. It will easy handle more current (if you don't mind a "hot" light.) There is no need to do any soldering in order to attach a driver. If you want to go complete hot-rod on it, a BLF DD driver seems to fit nicely, although I have not tried.

There are a few things that made the teardown take more time than I wanted. (But I gave it 5 stars anyway, afterall, this is also available as a host)

-Lens is almost too wide. On my light it was a bit difficult getting it out. (Not an issue on any of the other Convoy lights I have)

-Reflector was also well attached to the centering ring, which again was well attached to the emitter. (Not an issue on any of the other Convoy lights I have)

-The retaining ring that hold the driver in place did not have the tweezer holes centered, which made it harder to screw it back in place when swapping/flashing/upgrading the driver.

-For some, it could be a bit difficult to solder the emitters wires, but with the right tip, I would consider it easy.

I use this type of tip for lights were I have to solder deep into the heads:

Stock lens is 28,90mm wide. Roughly 5% loss. A 27mm AR lens does fit on top of the reflector and under the bezel, but then the super thin O-ring will not sit on top of the lens. Light will not be waterproof, and reflector and lens will wobble up and down.

Anyone know of a good 28mm AR lens? That might work. Ideally it should be around 28,60mm.

This lens might work (if size in description is correct). Does it have decent AR coating?


My mod:

12x7135 Qlite

Reflowed stock emitter to 20mm Nocitgon (I might have done some minor trimming where the screws go)

Copper braided tailcap spring

Used some suitable screws

Butterfly centering ring

Output and throw increased with about 45-50% compared to stock. Beam edges got better as well.

Ive been using this light like this for more than 2 weeks now and have been really happy with it. :)

Thanks for the review. It looks like a nice light.

Nice review. This Convoy will make a great host, I love matte anodising.

Thanks for the great review. Always impress with Convoy. Great bang for buck

What a sweet looking light. Thanks for the great review.

I may get me another M2 now, thanks for the very adequate review :-)

one question, my old M2 came with an extra SS bezel without the crenelation, much nicer IMO, does the new M2 have that also? Will the old bezel fit?

It does not come with additional non-crenelated like first version.

Very well documented review as always. Photos are AWESOME!!!

Nice review…and it’s a Convoy!

excellent! Thanks

thanks for the answer freeme. It looks like some grinding will get me a flat bezel also and that will even help with the spill a bit :-)

Flat bezel looks more classy and practical for most. Can ask Simon if he is able to sell them separately.

This particular switch is rated at 1A and really can’t handle more long-term.
And this fact makes all other improvements completely useless.

Djozz, are you going to start making Convoy M2 Djozz bezels now?

Cant say if the old bezel will fit the new Convoy M2 since I don't have the old one.

Thanks for comments anyone. I appreciate comments and feedback. Feel free to ask any questions in case there were stuff that the review did not cover. I hope the review wasn't too much. Im sure many just skipped all parts that were not interesting, but one thing led to another and I had made one large review.. as usual...

Most Omten switches are rated 1,5A (those who are a bit larger). All of them seem to reliably handle 7-15A+ long term depending on what switch it is. I have never had one of these fail on me. And I have yet to hear of one that does not handle easily 5x the rated current or more.

The switch is about the same size as in several other lights. ZY-T08, xintdX3, Roche F8, etc etc... Fitting a larger Omten switch (not the largest square one) that I know for sure can handle 10A without issues seems possible, but until the stock switch shows any issues (which I doubt it will), I dont think that is necessary. I have been running 5A+ continuous through similar small Omten switches without issues.

Have you tested that switch long term with high amps and had issues?

No, they will never be djozz-bezels, there's a trademark on that you know, a feel even hesitant making one without permission from he who is not around anymore. The only correct term is: Foybezeltm

3 of 3 Omten 1288 swiches I used failed in 6 month (average).
All came from different sources, all were used at 2-2.1A. They have ridiculously small contact area and huge contact resistance (about 5 times greater than larger Omtens).

I did some testing on these switches ( https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/27675 ) and in those tests the resistance of the small Omten was about 2 times that of the larger Omten (I did not test the big square one). That small switch could handle 16A for a few hours.

It does not say everything about real longterm use of course, with oxides building up on the surfaces and everything.

I think Foy would have liked these P60 sized Convoys.

For those who have no clue what we are talking about. (More Foybezel`s here)

The main issues with the M2 bezel is that its too skinny to trim down to anything that looks beefy can classy. The weight of it is almost 1/3rd of the bezel on my L2T (pictured in OP).

Thanks for info. Ill have to do some testing then.

Edit: How have your switches failed? Where did they come from?

Welcome to the forum Skytrooper!

Thanks for the comment.

:beer:

BTW, it’s been reported that these black 1288 (had they come from Simon?) are a bit better than white ones.
I have no personal experience with them though.

I like what they did to the pill. Unfortunately I still have three original M2 hosts from when FT first introduced them, though they did come with two different bezels. I wonder why they decided to redesign the pill? Most probably the integral pill saves manufacturing costs for them but gives us better thermal transfer. I wonder if the M1 is next for an upgrade?

If it saves manufacturing costs then its a win/win IMO. Espesially when its done like in the M2, where there is a brass ring that will hold a 17mm 7135 based driver.

I have been wondering about the same when it comes to the M1. The host (OEM D4) have been on sale at CNQ for only 9$ for some time now. Clearance sale? (Convoy M1= OEM D4, no brand)

On a side note I picked up the OEM E2 host for 19$ (AKA Convoy L5) which is also on sale.


Got a PM from a member who wondered about wire clearance to the reflector. Might as well share pictures with everyone.

As can be seen. Clearance is good. :)


Im doing a bit of switch testing at 6A+

Wires directly on each side of the switch. Tried high amp through the spring, but that heated up quickly (as expected). I always copper braid at 3A+ (or use wire depending on the spring) in order to minimize voltage sag, avoid heat buildup or "burned out" spring.

Any tips on how to test the switch nicely? (I don't plan do a a crash test on purpose). Only tested it 25 min with 6A+ continuous so far and no real noticeable heat buildup or issues.