Difference between Opus BT-C3400 & BT-C3100 v2.1?

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ALL Three of those are Used.

Generally, in this case, a used high-quality SMPS is far better than a new low-quality one.

OK,,,,,,,,It is your fault for recommending to me the LOW quality one!!

I am not worried about it. I have a spare if it fails and can always get a better one if they both fail.

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^^^ I didn’t realize you were going to buy so quickly. I picked a couple examples only to show how cheap they are (even cheaper if ordered from China, but then you have to wait at least a couple weeks for ePacket, or longer for other shipping methods).

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^^^ I didn’t realize you were going to buy so quickly. I picked a couple examples only to show how cheap they are (even cheaper if ordered from China, but then you have to wait at least a couple weeks for ePacket, or longer for other shipping methods).
No big deal. I chose to get it,,it will be fine.

I I ever get a better one, It will be brand new! These are not cars we are getting where you know how many miles are on it and how old it is! That is my thinking……..I would not want a used one,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hopefully these TWO classics I have will last a while!!

I am going to do a CRUDE temp. check when the batteries are around 4.0/4.10v w/ my maintenance thermometer probe!

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Right now the batteries are @ 3.58v. They have a ways to go.

It is 84F outside and 77F in my condo. The SUPERNIGHT IS @ 88F. Wink

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^^^ 88°F is fine. I chose 60W since it should leave so much headroom that the SMPS will run cool – which translates to longer life (usually governed by capacitor life, which roughly doubles for every 10°C(=18°F) reduction.

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^^^ 88°F is fine. I chose 60W since it should leave so much headroom that the SMPS will run cool – which translates to longer life (usually governed by capacitor life, which roughly doubles for every 10°C(=18°F) reduction.

I agree that is fine, but the batteries are not fully charged!That was @ 3.58v.

I just checked, it is @ 3.75v now and temp is 94F.

I do not expect it to go over 103F b/4 its done,just a guess. With my heat sink invention I am positive[just by feel compared to now] it won’t go past 88F

I will measure that next time I charge 4 X 18650 @ 1AMP.

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-Charge/Tests for Opus BT-C3100 2.2

-Can the failures discussed earlier in this thread be reversed?

-ALL these tests are done with 4 × 18650 3400mah protected batteries that are discharged at 1Amp.

My Third test is almost complete. I feel confident to post this now because that test is well past the“Stage of failure” which ALL happened ~ 2.80v of the re-charge cycle.

My Three prior tests had ALL failed shortly after the discharge cycle transitioned to “Charge Cycle”. At that point the charger briefly shut off,reset and then defaulted to 500mAh charge rate.Needless to say ALL my capacity info. was wiped out!

HKJ and Gausse163 felt that the SMPS was most likely the culprit based on all the information provided by me and others and from their knowledge and experience!

Yesterday, April 10th I received my First of Two SMPS. It is 12V/5A and should be more than sufficient according to the gentlemen mentioned above.

I did Three tests with Three different sets of batteries. My First test were the batteries that failed Three times in a row with the ORIGINAL SMPS.

Ladies and gentlemen,,lets see the results!

TEST#1-Orbtronic 4 X 18650 3400mAh- SUCCESS! Thumbs Up

TEST #2-Keeppower 4 X 18650 3400mAh-SUCCESS! Thumbs Up

TEST#3-Soshine 4 X 18650 3400mAh- SUCCESS! Thumbs Up

The transition phase from discharge to charge went very smoothly without a glitch!

In conclusion, I think it is safe to say that the “Culprit” was the Original SMPS which could not seem to handle charging 4 X 18650 3400mAh @ 1amp right after transition to “CHARGE” when the batteries were ~ 2.80V and probably needed that extra “spike” of energy but could not deliver!

I want to thank Professor HKJ, Dr. Gausse, Teacher and ALL the other Pupils that made this possible in helping to solve this crucial energy crisis! Cool

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gauss163 wrote:
^^^ 88°F is fine. I chose 60W since it should leave so much headroom that the SMPS will run cool – which translates to longer life (usually governed by capacitor life, which roughly doubles for every 10°C(=18°F) reduction.

My new SMPS never exceeded 94F.

Keep in mind this is the surface temperature at the warmest point. I do not have equipment to measure internal temperature.

This gives a pretty good idea,,,,,,,and w/ Mr. Heatsink I believe it will not be much more than 80F. I will post that when I test it.

The real improvement will be w/ my Fenix ARE-C2. I am betting[just by feel] that it will be at least a 35 degree reduction in heat w/ my heat sink.

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Hi…my 1st time here……please be gentle Smile

I was wondering if anyone has had any experience ordering up the Opus BT-C3100 V2.2 (has been rebranded as a Zeepin Opus….) from China. I recently did (at a reasonably good price) and was curious if anyone can speak of their experience (quality, reliability, etc.) and/or have a way to confirm (or deny) the product is a rebranding and not a knock-off/fake. Labels are easily created. Thought maybe something etched or silkscreened on the circuit board might be an indicator.

Thanks in advance….cheers….

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stephr1 wrote:
Hi…my 1st time here……please be gentle Smile

I was wondering if anyone has had any experience ordering up the Opus BT-C3100 V2.2 (has been rebranded as a Zeepin Opus….) from China. I recently did (at a reasonably good price) and was curious if anyone can speak of their experience (quality, reliability, etc.) and/or have a way to confirm (or deny) the product is a rebranding and not a knock-off/fake. Labels are easily created. Thought maybe something etched or silkscreened on the circuit board might be an indicator.

Thanks in advance….cheers….

Welcome to BLF! Party

I never heard of the Re branded version. Maybe someone else has and they can help you.

Maybe if you post some pictures that will help us determine if it is a fake?

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In regards to the testing that I have been doing w/ my NEW SMPS.

As I indicated before, ALL of my Six tests[3 Failures/3 successes] were done the same way. That is the batteries were put in around 4.10/4.12v for the Opus to top it off/discharge then charge back up.

I thought I would do the ENTIRE test in the Opus to make sure it could handle that extra session of charging, even though that part had nothing to do with the failure.

So I put 4 X 18650 Samsung 30Q FT in. All @ 3.64v. The test was another SUCCESS!

The only thing that is yet to be determined is the durability and longevity of my $6.99 SMPS! I do have an $8.38 SMPS coming Saturday for back up! Wink

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Are you talking about Zeepin? On the posting on Aliexpress, depending on which you choose (color and US or European) it either says Zeepin or Opus on the upper face of the product. Boxes look about the same with what appears to be a slight option in color (gray vs. blue/gray???).

I posted a similar query on slickdeals (where the original deal was posted) and someone mentioned that Opus is already a branding of the product, that Opus buys from OEMs and puts their label on it. I suppose that would make what I ordered a rebranded rebrand, so to speak.

When my unit arrives (which should be sometime in the next couple of weeks) I’ll take a pic and post it. It will be interesting to get feedback on it.

Also, Aliexpress claims full refund if the unit is determined to be a fake (wonder if that would include a fully functional knock-off…hmmmm).

Thanks for the welcome and the offer of help. Seemed like this was a good place for feedback (even tho the forum is about “budget lights” (Big grin :)))

Cheers….

wolfdog1226 wrote:
stephr1 wrote:
Hi…my 1st time here……please be gentle Smile

I was wondering if anyone has had any experience ordering up the Opus BT-C3100 V2.2 (has been rebranded as a Zeepin Opus….) from China. I recently did (at a reasonably good price) and was curious if anyone can speak of their experience (quality, reliability, etc.) and/or have a way to confirm (or deny) the product is a rebranding and not a knock-off/fake. Labels are easily created. Thought maybe something etched or silkscreened on the circuit board might be an indicator.

Thanks in advance….cheers….

Welcome to BLF! Party

I never heard of the Re branded version. Maybe someone else has and they can help you.

Maybe if you post some pictures that will help us determine if it is a fake?

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^^^^^^^^^^

I RARELY buy over seas. There are plenty of GREAT dealers in the USA. One is 1.5 miles from me where I bought my Opus and get my batteries!

He lives across the street from me and is a great guy and his customer service can not be beat. it would take too long[especially since I need to go!] to tell you all the favors/deals he has given me in the last 2+ years!

Link below:

https://liionwholesale.com/collections/chargers/products/opus-bt-3100-ch...

I was just responding to your curiosity/concern of the re branded Opus. I do not know anything about it!

,,,,,,,,have a nice day on the LEFT CoastCool

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gauss163 wrote:
albert wrote:
[…] You shouldn’t ever plug in this type of charger when the AC/DC adapter has power as doing so may cause sparking between the DC plug and charger.

This is normal behavior. The sparking is caused by the inrush current as the caps charge up.

Your fan problem is not related to that.

Just wanted to add a +1 to this. I haven’t specifically checked it out, but if the small fans used in the charger are 5 or 12 VDC, they prob’ly draw much less than 100 mA (0.1 A), maybe less than 50 mA and you most likely would never see a spark from that low level of current. It would have to be up closer to 1 A or greater to see any kind of sparking. Caps are most likely the cause due to near complete discharge, especially if the unit has been left unplugged for a reasonable amount of time. Then the caps would look almost like a short for a very short time (thus, the inrush current) to the supply.

If you want to avoid the sparking (and eventual corrosion of the connector(s)), plug the adapter into the charger 1st, then plug the adapter into the wall. Current drawn from the AC outlet would be much, much less than that drawn by the charger (12V x 3A = 36W max, therefore, 36W/120VAC = 0.3A or 300 mA max, and much less if only 1A is drawn from the adapter at inrush).

Cheers….

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^^^^^^^^^^

I RARELY buy over seas. There are plenty of GREAT dealers in the USA. One is 1.5 miles from me where I bought my Opus and get my batteries!

He lives across the street from me and is a great guy and his customer service can not be beat. it would take too long[especially since I need to go!] to tell you all the favors/deals he has given me in the last 2+ years!

Link below:

https://liionwholesale.com/collections/chargers/products/opus-bt-3100-ch...

I was just responding to your curiosity/concern of the re branded Opus. I do not know anything about it!

,,,,,,,,have a nice day on the LEFT CoastCool

Appreciate the link. If my purchase turns out to be valid, I just got a BT-C3100 V2.2 for about half the price (including shipping). Have to wait and see…..

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wolfdog1226 wrote:
-Charge/Tests for Opus BT-C3100 2.2

-Can the failures discussed earlier in this thread be reversed?

-ALL these tests are done with 4 × 18650 3400mah protected batteries that are discharged at 1Amp.

My Third test is almost complete. I feel confident to post this now because that test is well past the“Stage of failure” which ALL happened ~ 2.80v of the re-charge cycle.

My Three prior tests had ALL failed shortly after the discharge cycle transitioned to “Charge Cycle”. At that point the charger briefly shut off,reset and then defaulted to 500mAh charge rate.Needless to say ALL my capacity info. was wiped out!

HKJ and Gausse163 felt that the SMPS was most likely the culprit based on all the information provided by me and others and from their knowledge and experience!

Yesterday, April 10th I received my First of Two SMPS. It is 12V/5A and should be more than sufficient according to the gentlemen mentioned above.

I did Three tests with Three different sets of batteries. My First test were the batteries that failed Three times in a row with the ORIGINAL SMPS.

Ladies and gentlemen,,lets see the results!

TEST#1-Orbtronic 4 X 18650 3400mAh- SUCCESS! Thumbs Up

TEST #2-Keeppower 4 X 18650 3400mAh-SUCCESS! Thumbs Up

TEST#3-Soshine 4 X 18650 3400mAh- SUCCESS! Thumbs Up

The transition phase from discharge to charge went very smoothly without a glitch!

In conclusion, I think it is safe to say that the “Culprit” was the Original SMPS which could not seem to handle charging 4 X 18650 3400mAh @ 1amp right after transition to “CHARGE” when the batteries were ~ 2.80V and probably needed that extra “spike” of energy but could not deliver!

I want to thank Professor HKJ, Dr. Gausse, Teacher and ALL the other Pupils that made this possible in helping to solve this crucial energy crisis! Cool

wolfdog1226 wrote:
In regards to the testing that I have been doing w/ my NEW SMPS.

As I indicated before, ALL of my Six tests[3 Failures/3 successes] were done the same way. That is the batteries were put in around 4.10/4.12v for the Opus to top it off/discharge then charge back up.

I thought I would do the ENTIRE test in the Opus to make sure it could handle that extra session of charging, even though that part had nothing to do with the failure.

So I put 4 X 18650 Samsung 30Q FT in. All @ 3.64v. The test was another SUCCESS!

The only thing that is yet to be determined is the durability and longevity of my $6.99 SMPS! I do have an $8.38 SMPS coming Saturday for back up! Wink

wolfdog1226, you are a gentleman & a scholar…… Thumbs Up
Thank you for testing the theory out! Apparently the problem is solved (at least it seems that way to me at this point)…… Wink
Well done. Smile

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^^^^

Thank you it was fun and I gained some knowledge doing so!

My dealer just reimbursed me for my SMPS!

He thanked me for all of my R&D that was actually done by many of us on here! Big Smile

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I am glad I have two SMPS. The second one arrived today. I was planning on having that one as my back up because the SUPERNIGHT works Super!It is definitely my back up now!

This back up is getting its first test now. It just passed the transition from Discharge to Charge. I thought it was going to reset numerous times and it is still demonstrating that behavior even at the 3.40v mark!

After transition I hear a slight power loss and then it is restored. It has been doing that every 30 seconds[I timed it!] for 15 minutes! The SUPERNIGHT never did that.

Imagine someone revving up an engine very slowly and then releasing very slowly and then doing the same thing. That is the only description I can think of.Basically the fan noise weakens because the power is weakening. It is also WARMER now than the SUPERNIGHT was @ 4.1v which was the peak of heat intensity. We are only at 3.48v!

Hopefully the SUPERNIGHT will last! I would not trust this back up for long!

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Good info….. What is the brand name of it… so as to avoid?

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^^^ That unit seems either defective or not up to spec. I’d return it. You can get paypal to cover the return shipping if the seller won’t. If you desire a 2nd unit you’d be better off with the others I listed.

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^^^ That unit seems either defective or not up to spec. I’d return it. You can get paypal to cover the return shipping if the seller won’t. If you desire a 2nd unit you’d be better off with the others I listed.

I agree……..my first thought is that its NOT 12v/5a,,,,,,or defective.

The thing only cost $7.38! It is still money,I will email dealer and go from there. I hope it is NOT more aggravation than what it is worth.

It is FALVOCANO,,,,,,,,,No mention of the name on the unit but that is what the advertisement says.

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I contacted then,,hopefully things go smooth!

This is the one,stay away from it!! The envelope is still warm and it put it in there 10 minutes ago!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221634442176?rmvSB=true

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That LY1205 got mostly good (86% 5-star, 4% 4-star) reviews on BangGood but who knows how knowlegeable the average BG buyer is.

But the 1-star reviews are alarming, e.g. “Doesn’t supply 60W at all – if you attempt to draw 5A, the voltage sags to less than 11V, making it totally unsuitable for purpose” and “they have destroyed two external hard drives plus almost burnt my house down” (ouch). One Russian buyer posted internals photos and claims that they “put a used power supply in new housing” (Google translation) – see the photo below (an SMPS analog of the mini-battery within a battery). A couple others had units that put out over 20V! Others say they died quickly. These appear to the be the “Utrafire” analogs for power supplies.

Better to go with a more reputable manufacturer than risk burning down your house. You might want to open up the SuperNight to see how shabby it may be. Who know what you might find inside.

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^^^^

How about a 12v/6a? or 12v/8a down the road?

If I got one of those it would most assuredly have enough power even if it did not meet specs.

Technically, I do not even need a back up because the ONLY time the original SMPS W/ the Opus failed was when it was ~ 2.8v/2.9v when it transitioned.

It charged 4 X 18650 w/ no problem when they go in as usual,,,3.6/3.7v. I have no more batteries to test and do not need any for awhile!

Can a 12v/8a/10a SMPS hurt my charger? My guess is no, it will just have more power and room for cooling?

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[…] Can a 12v/8a/10a SMPS hurt my charger? My guess is no, it will just have more power and room for cooling?

It can’t hurt, but the higher the power, the higher the price for a quality supply. Also they will be larger, so less convenient, and will be less efficient at (your) lower load.

Also you might want a “green” Level V supply (e.g. using Philips/NXP GreenChip) which draws very little power when idle (< 0.5W) so you can leave it plugged in. Then you could put a DC power switch between the barrel plug and the Opus.

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gauss163 wrote:
Below are some better choices on eBay for a more powerful SMPS for the BT-C3100. They are probably all much better quality than the SuperNight. I can’t be sure that they are all 5.5×2.1mm barrel (they may be 2.5) but they should still fit (at worst you’d need to buy a cheap adapter or DIY convert). There are multiple quantities for all so there’s no rush (best to wait till we are 100% sure this solves the problem).

$8 12V/5A Asian Power Devices APD DA-60L12

$9 12V/4.16A HIPRO HP-A0502R3D 50W (not 60W) but should be enough.

$10.29/BO 12V/5A “Channel Well PAA060F”:http://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-to-DC-Power-Supply-ADAPTER-CHARGER-Channel-We...

How do I know that these are better quality? How do I know how long they have been used and the duration of use per day? Don’t they sell those kind new?

Thanks,,,Dr. Capolini,,,,,,“King of questions and analyzer to perfection”!

When I buy a car[used] i can see the condition it is in and how many miles are on it!

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That LY1205 got mostly good (86% 5-star, 4% 4-star) reviews on BangGood but who knows how knowlegeable the average BG buyer is.

But the 1-star reviews are alarming, e.g. “Doesn’t supply 60W at all – if you attempt to draw 5A, the voltage sags to less than 11V, making it totally unsuitable for purpose” and “they have destroyed two external hard drives plus almost burnt my house down” (ouch). One Russian buyer posted internals photos and claims that they “put a used power supply in new housing” (Google translation) – see the photo below (an SMPS analog of the mini-battery within a battery). A couple others had units that put out over 20V! Others say they died quickly. These appear to the be the “Utrafire” analogs for power supplies.

Better to go with a more reputable manufacturer than risk burning down your house. You might want to open up the SuperNight to see how shabby it may be. Who know what you might find inside.

!https://i.stack.imgur.com/WqAEC.jpg!

You leave my SUPERNIGHT alone!! It is top of the line primo quality!You recommended it , right??? That is right, you did not know I was going to get it!No justifying Gausse,,,,,bottom line you recommended it!!!! Silly So PIPE DOWN once and for all!!

,,,,HAPPY EASTER,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Capolini,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Qui Riposa in pace

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If you prefer not to take a (slight) risk on a used high-quality SMPS then you can get a new one for slightly more, e.g. $10.45 for a 12V/66W LITEON PA-1660-2SA1. This was probably manufactured in the past year or two given the MSP ID application date of 2015-10-29, and the fact that it meets the latest efficiency Level VI.

So it is a latest tech SMPS at a great price from a top-tier manufacturer (if your search on “LITEON oem” on eBay you will see power supplies they made for Acer, Apple, Cisco, Dell, Gateway, HP, IBM, Kodak, Lenovo, Samsung, Sony, Toshiba, etc, which should help convince you of their reputation).

As I mentioned before, I didn’t say the SuperNight was high-quality. Rather, I gave it as an example of very cheap SMPS on eBay.

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