This is being done in several states now including Tennessee where I’m at. Lithium batteries generally 14500 and chargers are being classified as tobacco paraphernalia. This means any one buying these for someone under 18 can be arrested. I’m going to put the kibosh on this. I’m working on Tennessee right now. Find out who is doing store stings for those who sell tobacco to the under aged and who passed the laws. Legislatures do not have the authority to reclassify batteries and I’m going to make sure they are sued for false arrests along with the police. In some cases batteries are not listed under the laws but stores and police think they are. This makes it real easy to win a lawsuit against the police.
I’d hate to see what LSD batteries are classified as…
LOL thanks for the chuckle.
that one was actually funny 
Gotta be about e-cigs. Heaven forbid our teenage smokaholics have a safer alternative. I’m sure banning e-cigs is going to keep teenagers from getting Cigs, cigars, and chew.
Good luck shutting them down, I really do wish you luck. Feelgood nonsense like this is such a waste of everyone’s time. More than that actually, it’s harmful to those they pretend to care about.
Any links for this?
crack/meth addicts have been known to steal lithium batteries for drug production.
a friend was a salesman at a batteries plus store and had not only thefts to deal with but bulk purchases of lithium batteries to folks acting as mules.
this lead to some types being stored in back.
while i would not sell ecig stuff to a minor in our shop i did set up a teen with some good 18650’s when he showed me a flashlight that takes them.recycled the bad whateverfires he had.so now setting up a kid with safe batteries is a crime?
nobody in china on ebay will respect that law!
You can’t make meth with rechargeable cells. They have lithium carbonate in them, not metallic lithium. Lithium primary cells like CR123’s are used to cook up evil happy juice. You should be selling the 18650’s to all the sketchy people that come in… you’ll get more money… their lab won’t be making any happy juice.
Stupid laws but since when is a vaporizer shaped like a cigar smoking? I do though wonder if the vaporizers are as innocuous as claimed. After all it took 350+ years to determine that tobacco smoking was bad for you though the term “coffin nails” for Cigarettes dates back to circa 1890 and the Germans published the smoking and cancer link before WWII. It took 30 more years before the rest of the medical profession agreed that it was not just Nazi propaganda!
I smoked for 20 years and quit going on 40 years ago but continued living with a smoker and now the doctor tells me I have the beginnings of Emphysema per a recent chest X ray.
Still the battery laws are dumb and anyone who wants lithium ion batteries can go on Ebay or Amazon where there are no restrictions on buying any kind of batteries I know of. If CR123A lithiums are used for meth production does this mean that if I order 100 from Battery Junction the DEA boys are going to break down my front door?
It may be possible, guess it depends on how many you need to get enough of it…I didn’t know they could be used in drug production either…but yeah I didn’t take “Producing Meth 101”, are they going to make this a requirement now??? I have no desire to run lithium primaries anyways luckily, so I’d never have mass quantities of them, but just because a few misuse an item, it shouldn’t be listed as “paraphenalia”…
That’s another good example of the failure of desk-dwelling bureaucrats that our tax-dollars pay 6-digit salaries to do.
Yeah the laws on cannabis don’t make any sense either. It’s illegal federally but each state has it’s own- which are we to follow? They released a memo last year that says the fed won’t go after anybody if they are complying with state law. But what if they did? That’s just a memo.
I’m sure if someone is buying huge amount of batteries that might tip off a watchdog group somewhere. But how is limiting them going to stop it. I mean, they could just buy in smaller amounts- it won’t stop anything but it’ll annoy legitimate buyers.
Having internet is enough to get you on a list, not having internet is enoigh to get you on a list, so it goes. Miss management everywhere
Of course the really big buyers of not rechargeable lithium batteries are government entities such as the military, police departments, fire departments, EMTs and other organizations who routinely use flashlights in their work. Few such organizations are set up to buy and use rechargeable batteries. Not worth the labor and hassle to them.
Do they recycle the batteries and are discharged Lithium CR123A batteries useful in the meth cooking process? If they are then it would seem like buying recycled batteries from a source would be the cheap way to go. Most organizations that use flashlights which take CR123 type batteries change them after every mission where the lights are used at all so an awful lot of the ditched batteries are close to new I have read.
Could very well. I know somebody that bought some metal-halide lights for a large salt-water aquarium setup from a hydroponics store (they had the best prices). DEA/FBI knocked down their door one morning, barged in all duded up in ninja suits with machine guns. Let’s just say that the judge was not at all pleased with the lies he was told in their search warrant affidavit and the lawyers had a field day.
In Dallas, the DEA now runs the largest chain of head shops (The Gas Pipe) in Texas… acquired when they busted the owner for selling syntho-dope… which may have been perfectly legal.
Overall the “war on drugs” has been about as successful as prohibition after WWI was at keeping alcohol away from anyone who wanted it. Give up and tax hell out of it like they now do with alcohol and tobacco. IMO the war on drugs was lost years ago.
so this will happens if the li-ion battery is inserted into a flashlight
