Review: UltraFire AT-008

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Review: UltraFire AT-008

KronoReview of the UltraFire AT-008.

One AT-008 was provided by GearBest , and another AT-008 by GeekBuying for review. GearBest has an XP-G, while GeekBuying claims to have an XP-E, but in actuality also has an XP-G emitter. I thought about doing separate reviews, but the lights are almost identical except for some very minor internal changes.

Manufacturer Specifications (as appear on GearBest website):

General-

  • Brand: Ultrafire
  • Model: AT-008
  • Emitter Type: Cree XP-G R5 *(Note: Listed as XP-E R2 on GeekBuying site)
  • Total Emitter: 1 x Cree XP-G R5
  • Lumens: 700 Lumens
  • Feature: Lanyard
  • Function: Household Use, Walking, Hiking, Camping
  • Battery Type: 18650
  • Battery Quantity: 1 × 18650 Battery (not included)
  • Mode: 3 (High > Low > SOS)
  • Focus: No
  • Rechargeable: No

Specification-

  • Power Source: Battery
  • Reflector: Plastic Smooth Reflector
  • Lens: Glass Lens
  • Body Material: Aluminium Alloy
  • Available Color: Black

Dimension and Weight- Product weight: 0.091 kg Package weight: 0.200 kg Product size (LxWxH): 12.5 × 3.0 × 3.0 cm / 4.9 × 1.2 × 1.2 inches Package size (LxWxH): 15.0 × 5.0 × 5.0 cm

Package Contents Package Contents: 1 x LED Flashlight

Manufacturer Specifications (as appear on GeekBuying website):

Highlights

  • Amazing high Brightness Cree XPE-R2
  • Quality aluminium alloy construction
  • 3 Modes for different situation
  • Support charging directly with the 18650 batteries inside
  • Portable size, easy to carry
  • Neutral white light see everything the real color
  • Magnetic tailcap for muti-function

Specifications

General

  • Brand: UltraFire
  • Color: Black
  • Material: Aluminium alloy
  • Quantity: 1

Specification

  • Emitter: Brand Cree
  • LED Type: XP-E
  • Emitter BIN: R2
  • Number of Emitters: 1
  • Color BIN: Neutral White
  • Voltage Input: 3.7~4.2V
  • Circuitry: 900~1100 mA
  • Battery Configuration: 1 × 18650 (not included)
  • Lumens: 270LM
  • Runtime: 3 Hours
  • Number of Modes: 3
  • Mode Arrangement: Hi / Low / Flash
  • Mode Memory: No
  • Switch Type: Forward clicky
  • Lens: Glass
  • Reflector: Smooth Aluminum
  • Switch: Location Side
  • Strap: Included Yes
  • Clip Included: No
  • Lighting Range: 150m

What’s in the box?
1 x Flashlight

KronoReview:

The UltraFire AT-008 is a single 18650, XP-G R5 light with 3 modes (High, Low & Strobe with hidden SOS). Here are some things I observed in this light:

Pros:

  • Feels good in hand, nice size.
  • Magnetic tail.
  • Side Clicky. NO sub-par rear clicky with next mode memory!
  • OK beam with decent spot.
  • Square head makes for a nice anti-roll feature.
  • Build quality is better than average sub $8 light.
  • Throws decently for a cheap light.
  • Hidden SOS.

Cons:

  • Hard to remove bezel.
  • Only a small lip for emitter. Needs a solid shelf for direct thermal transfer.
  • Useless charger hole…no charger supplied with unit. Many Chinese lights, unfortunately, come this way.
  • Plastic lens (GearBest & GeekBuying specs say it is glass…not so!).
  • Plastic reflector (Labeled YK P002, 23mm diameter).
  • Won’t take protected cell…tailcap won’t screw down all the way.
  • No anodized tail lockout.
  • Low output. I don’t have a light meter, but it is nowhere hear the 700 claimed lumens. Probably more like 200-250 lumens (purely an estimate).
  • Blinkies.

My Photos:


Head/Driver with wrench. Had to use a Visegrip lined w/electrical tape to remove bezel.


Head/Driver-side view



Head/emitter


Head/showing small lip that emitter sits on.




Underside of board.


Underside of board on GeekBuying version (note different color negative wire, glue reinforcement of clicky switch, and no retainer ring holes for removal).


Bezel and reflector removed


Lens, reflector, LED center piece, bezel and GITD o-ring.



Magnetic tail sticking to metal light fixture on ceiling.



Magnetic tail sticking to kitchen knife.

Beamshots:


Control shot


UltraFire AT-008 on High


UltraFire AT-008 on Low

GearBest and GeekBuying pics:


Here’s an additional picture for the magnetic end, stuck to a knife…lol


And the charge port which GearBest omits from their pics.

Summary:

I like the compact size of this light, however, the internal design is lacking. Not that surprising for a very budget, side clicky. If this had a solid emitter shelf, it would be an awesome budget light. But…since it doesn’t, and it has a plastic lens, un-usable charge port, and older emitter, I only give this a moderate grade. However, since it has a decent quality build, usable side clicky, NO next-mode memory and a magnetic tail, it will be useful to some looking for those features.

Kronological Patented KronoMeter Rating: 3/5.

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Edited by: kronological on 10/23/2014 - 19:04
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thx for your great effort you did on this review great pics also , i liked this light and the magnetic tail is very cool but the lake of solid emitter shelf and plastic reflector is very annoying

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Thanks Krono. Close again but no cigar.

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Thank you Krono.  I got mine too, but I just haven't had a chance to look at it much.  Used it a little and my experience with that is the same as you reported.

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You are welcome.

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Thanks for the review, it seems like well build lights really only start at 10 dollars, and that is reasonable of course.

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Good quad host (also takes care of the plastic lens issue at the same time). I’ll be building mine into an MELD light, the charger port will be filled with a 5mm encapsulated UV LED. There wouldnt be enough room fir the wiring with the MCPCB in the stock location but with the quad needing the MCPCB raised way up its not an issue, gives me plenty of room to work.

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Excellent review.

And that looks like an awesome mod Cereal Killer.

This light looks like its external styling is a clone of the Sunwayman C21C

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Wow, that square head looks real good with the quad optics C_K.

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Thanks for the review.  Sad to see it's so poorly designed.  I agree, C_K's quad looks very nice!

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Nice review on the light, Krono.  A shame for the poor internal design otherwise this might have made an awesome budget version of the Hammer light (a light I've wanted for a long time).

C_K. as always, you have turned another sow's ear into a silk purse! Smile

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garrybunk wrote:

Thanks for the review.  Sad to see it’s so poorly designed.  I agree, C_K’s quad looks very nice!

-Garry

 

Yeah, the quad looks awesome.

Imagine it with quad XPL and FET driver. Then accidental turn-on in the pocket! |(

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Reviewing is new to me, so I really appreciate the kudos. Thanks, fellers! Smile

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Actually, the lack of a shelf and the charging port can be looked at as a positive.  This light would be much more expensive if they had got those 2 things right.

Mine will be getting copper disk inserted and the charging port will be either threaded into a tripod mount or become a beacon/indicator light. Replace the spring with a short copper dome and you got lockout capability.

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I haven’t read the review yet, but that is a beautiful house.

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Thanks for this review krono. Almost pulled the trigger on this light. Smile

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Cereal_killer wrote:
Good quad host (also takes care of the plastic lens issue at the same time). I’ll be building mine into an MELD light, the charger port will be filled with a 5mm encapsulated UV LED. There wouldnt be enough room fir the wiring with the MCPCB in the stock location but with the quad needing the MCPCB raised way up its not an issue, gives me plenty of room to work.

Excellent review kronological

CK how will improve the thermal management since there is only a small shelf on the head, possible potting behind the star?

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I used my usual method- first I shaved a stack of 1” copper disks down to fit flush in the head (reduced them about 1-2mm, they almost fit as it) then I soldered them into a slug then I JBweld potted underneath that to hold it as the correct height.

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Cereal_killer wrote:
Good quad host (also takes care of the plastic lens issue at the same time). I’ll be building mine into an MELD light, the charger port will be filled with a 5mm encapsulated UV LED. There wouldnt be enough room fir the wiring with the MCPCB in the stock location but with the quad needing the MCPCB raised way up its not an issue, gives me plenty of room to work.

Did you take any pics during the process? I didn’t see a thread on it.

When I first saw this light and how cheap it was I wanted to start modding it. I haven’t modded a light yet, and after some research it seems like it may not be that beginner friendly. I was originally thinking of making it into a Mule.

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Got mine in, 3/5 is a good rating for this

Definitely a “budget” light, and kronological’s review is spot on…not a “bad” light but not the greatest either, but as C_K above…I think I might do the quad mod, problem is there ain’t alot of meat at all in this light, barely any fins and nowhere the heat can go…so driving it hard for long periods is out of the question…I am thinking 4A~ total (1A each emitter) w/ turbo stepdown after say 60 seconds might prevent it from burning up.

Either way not a bad light for the price, sub $10 light with plenty of “potential”

Heck I think this thing with a XM-L/L2 or now a XP-L on 20mm Copper sinkpad/noctigon would definitely perk this thing up even with the stock driver, much more light but not that much extra heat.

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Cereal_killer wrote:
I used my usual method- first I shaved a stack of 1” copper disks down to fit flush in the head (reduced them about 1-2mm, they almost fit as it) then I soldered them into a slug then I JBweld potted underneath that to hold it as the correct height.

Yup, just measured, 24.25~mm diameter, depth from top of head is 25mm to star

Gonna get me a triple from RMM, it’s cheaper than the quad and I don’t think this guy will handle the heat as well as some larger rigs, not sure if I want to tackle a custom driver w/ MOSFET for better modes and higher power though

Did find this though
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Wholesale-5-pcs-lot-Ultrafire-AT...

Whopping $6.76 a piece for a lot of 5

Driver does look moddable w/ either bridging the resistors or soldering lower values in though…probably bridging them will give the best performance

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Great review thanks a lot. Smile
The magnetic tail is impressive Smile

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Finished up my quad Nichia 119 today. Total cost; about $12

A lot of filing on a 17dd_PIC, thank God for gnd plain’s cause look at that GND ring!

Edit: just realized, this was my very last 70N02!

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Thanks for posting pics. You really had to put the hurting on that driver. $12 is impressively low. Did you use this technique for the stars? Hill – Quad Nichia 119 (2 × 18650 host)

How do the 119’s like the DD?

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Nice!!!!

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@Wight: I used one of my remaining quad MCPCB’s so that was easy, I used the kapton isolator method to use the 2-pad 119’s on the XP quad MCPCB. They seem to handle DD very well being on DTP, I built this light (using the widest available TIR) for low power / long runtime as a photography light. I get >60 minutes runtime on a 3400 NCRB at max (and obviously much more at lower power). It runs just about 3.5A (when the battery is full, dropping lower after the battery is partially depleted thus extending runtime even more). Note it will pull about 4.8-4.9A on a 25R but there is literally only a few lumen increase (and it could of even been measuring differences it was only about 20Lm more than on the NCRB) so it’s definitely not worth the lower capacity battery or shorter runtime or the increased heat. I’m getting 530Lm OTF after 30 sec (F1 style) and there is very little sag from turn on up till that 30sec mark (i.e. the DPT board is really helping the little N.119’s). This is far and above what I’ve ran them at in the past. Low is also amazing, well under 0.5Lm! I’m not able to measure it but it looks the same as moon2B (the 2nd selectable level of low2) on my ZL H52w!!

@WarHawk, thanks man, now get yours done stat!

The light from it is absolutely beautiful! It turned out exactly how I had hopped. The thermal path is surprisingly good, the thing heat’s up instantly! This is the first time I’ve actually pressed the copper disks in, usually I size them perfect so they push in with finger pressure and then pot them in place but this time I made them over sized so I had to literally press them with my press, no potting needed. I also used a new (to me) type of thermal grease from fasttech- HD-GD660 “gold”, it seems to be more what I’m accustom to [i.e. better quality] than the same brand white crap I had been using on budget builds.

My ONLY complaint is the natural variation in the N119’s, notice the one on the top right (above pic) is just slightly cooler, I wish they all matched.

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Thanks for the info Cereal_killer. I think I am misunderstanding you though. Are you completely isolating each 119 from the DTP thermal pad or not?

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