On The Road? (e.g. X3, X5, X6) 850 and 1300 lumens

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On The Road? (e.g. X3, X5, X6) 850 and 1300 lumens

X3 Model - http://www.cnqualitygoods.com/goods.php?id=1200

X5 Model - http://www.cnqualitygoods.com/goods.php?id=1186

X6 Model - http://www.cnqualitygoods.com/goods.php?id=1185

SST-50 1300 lumens 

I can't remember exactly how I came across this brand. I might have just been browsing CN or maybe I was linked somehow when researching another light. Regardless, I was stricken by its beauty Smile And the specs seem decent. I wasn't considering SST-50 but the big boy sure seems tempting driven at 4.3a. The X5 would be the XM-L offering. It's hard to trust the photo of the beamshot since the same is used for both the X5 and X6 (XM-L vs SST-50). 

 

Obviously it's a copy/re-brand of something but I can't tell what. Anybody familiar with it?

Edited by: weiser on 07/31/2011 - 16:43
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At least I know I have posted some links with some of these on the road on the "A Real Looker" thread.

 

It's a rebrand of Loongsun LX-9012

 

Most of the On The Road are rebranded flashlights from Loongsun.

 

 

BTW: X5 is totally wrong on that link. First pic is of x5 then the rest are of X6. Check the original links I posted from Taobao.

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Here is the X6 equivalent at only $74.10

Here is the X3 equivalent at only $72.90

Here is the X5 equivalent with a sst50 at only $71.20

They look o.k there are cheaper lights out there.

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Oh, check http://shdt.taobao.com/ for all their flashlights. or  www.zlsh.net  www.susd.cn  same stuff

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how2 wrote:

Here is the X6 equivalent at only $74.10

Here is the X3 equivalent at only $72.90

Here is the X5 equivalent with a sst50 at only $71.20

They look o.k there are cheaper lights out there.

 

X6 and X3 equivalents are exactly the same bodies

X5 equivalent is not the exact body.

This is the "original equivalent" of the X5, Loongsun  LX-9011 

http://www.ecvv.com/product/2358808.html    

 

Smile it's not even branded in that photo.

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weiser701 wrote:
 

http://www.loongsun.net/LED-Strong-flashlight-series/Loongsun_Brand_LED_Long_range_Torch_9011_T6/

http://loongsun.en.alibaba.com/product/448301661-210725780/loongsun_LX_9011_T_LED_torch.html 

 

So anything special about it or just another flashlight? Does Loongsun have any reputation? 

The brief and few things I read, they are good and technicals such as heatsinking is excellent. But not as well tested because not many tried, really very few comments.  Nowadays XM-L stuff like Sky Ray STL-V2/Fandyfire STL-V6 already like blows them away at below 50 bucks.  heh....

I'm now beginning to notice/test lights for heat soak and lumens drop due to that. I can't imagine how bad it would be for a SST-50 light gunning at 4.5-5A in that kind of body with the heat from both LED and driver. I don't have concrete info but some OTF figures of even stuff like SR90 stunned me.  I have a local forummer pal who is into high-end lights and throw it does throw well have some issue with the OTF from all the brief snipplets we have uncovered (Well if it is 250 bucks then well it is probably all good LOL!)

 "I use the light in the real world and such things don't bother me", well of course the difference is not big when you are actually using it and you may claim to be not bothered, but think about it do you rather want to be aware of the info/truth than just buy blindly for all your future purchases? I hope not and am sure many others are into the technicals of this wierd hobby. Sealed   My lux meter is not accurate at all, but all readings taken from the same meter are accurate and can be compared among all the other lights.  I think one day I would really sit down and document how much % difference there is an put it into a table for reference.

I could do that.....pretty free now as it's low period. heh....

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I just want to clarify that I'm focusing on the XM-L model, that is if it really is indeed XM-L and not a goof. All the specs seem to indicate it's XM-L (including the 2.5a draw), except for the photo's. I have emailed Ric and also sent him a message on MSN. If he can't hook me up with any kind of discount (I forgot there's roughly a $10 shipping charge) then I'll probably go with the Shadow or Sky Ray. 

 

There's a member on CPF who modded his X6 with a XM-L and dramatically improved output. I'm now wondering if the X5 produces similar results. And since he claims the mod was quite easy maybe I could even switch out the driver if I felt the urge. Of course, he was only speaking of swapping the emitter/star. He finishes with: "Definitely a host designed for modders!"

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The x5's head is 57mm, the X6's is 61mm. Almost the same.

 

From what I've seen on taobao (tons of detailed phtos) the reflectors look identical.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=8556017130&frm=

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=8636267162&

 

But buy looking at the hosts I wouldn't say the reflectors are the same

 

 

There's another rebrand, Tank007 SST-50   

http://iled.sk/tank007-c-46/tank007-sst-50-p-296

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Hmmm... borrowing some design cues are we...?

 

JetBeam M1X, On The Road X5

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So we don't know anyone testing/reviewing either Loongsun or On The Road lights? Do you think an XM-L offering (e.g. X5 model) is worth a purchase compared to the likes of the STL-V2 and similar? Based on visiting their website and emailing Loongsun, it seems the manufacturer and Loongsun are actually one and the same. At least that's what I gathered from my choppy correspondence with the lead guy. The manufacturer is Longxing Optoelectronic Technology. 


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LOL, when I saw this

On The Road? (e.g. X3, X5, X6)

I thought I was in a BMW forum

Rats, finally sold my 2010 509hp Mustang...now I can buy more lights!

Sold the red one too! Now guess what I drive, doing my penance for 500 hp commuters...

http://dreammustang.com/

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/Ha

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trooplewis wrote:

LOL, when I saw this

On The Road? (e.g. X3, X5, X6)

I thought I was in a BMW forum

I too thgt BMW had switch to LED headlamp!

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only 1300 lumens from a BMW? hehe

 

My SST-50 is such a heat monster.....  The XM-L equivalent out throws, produces more light, yet the XM-L produces almost no heat in comparison!!

Im interested to see if its truly XM-L, or more importantly, whats the current drive current on the X5, its always xm-L moddable.

"like everyone else - I’m looking for my next “last” flashlight" -  ohnonothimagain

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I think they are going to operate and perform the same as the FF STL-V6, but on closer look it is kinda sexy.  However it is not like the X381 which can break into half and let you do 2 x CR123 or 2 x 18350, for eg.  Then this would be a short XM-L thrower.

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2100 wrote:

I think they are going to operate and perform the same as the FF STL-V6, but on closer look it is kinda sexy.  However it is not like the X381 which can break into half and let you do 2 x CR123 or 2 x 18350, for eg.  Then this would be a short XM-L thrower.

 

Yeah, taobao explains the differences between the two and I was kind of bummed when I read that. It's not really a deal breaker though. I think I'll probably get it just to end the agony of wondering, haha. 

 

trooplewis wrote:

LOL, when I saw this

On The Road? (e.g. X3, X5, X6)

I thought I was in a BMW forum

 

Yeah.. and you can imagine how difficult it is to find information when you keep getting BMW links for your search results Tongue out

 

okwchin wrote:

My SST-50 is such a heat monster.....  The XM-L equivalent out throws, produces more light, yet the XM-L produces almost no heat in comparison!!

Im interested to see if its truly XM-L, or more importantly, whats the current drive current on the X5, its always xm-L moddable.

 

According to Ric it is indeed XM-L. The Loongsun and Taobao sites seem to confirm this. He tells me it runs 2.8A. And he actually referenced the Shadow TC6 when describing the beam. He says "the beam is not so perfect as Shadow TC6. Otherwise it's a nice light, built quality is super, the circuit performs very well and very bright."

 

I'll be getting one and then I'll report back here. I'm hoping this will be a flashlight I can call reliable and trustworthy in my budget collection. It may not be the brightest but hopefully it'll be #1 in quality AND brightness together. We'll see...

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Got my X5 and it measured 34k at 12.4m.   Drivenly decently at 1.2A at the tail with 4.2V cells.  Compared to the STL-V6 (which got 50k) that light is at 1.35A.  Reflected lux 70 for STL-V6 and 62 lux for X5.   Both 2-cell lights regulated.   Also due to the smaller diameter reflector.

Anodizing is pretty good, 90% of the Shadow TC6 (the Shadow TC6 is really good, feel is as good as Fenix HA). Heft/thickness of head/tube is more than the STL-V6.  If you are a collector of gun metal lights and like the Jetbeam M1X style head, you can consider this.

 I love the tailcap button which show the power icon, instead of the normal knurling pattern

asd

 

 

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Thanks for the feedback, 2100!

 

So how would you grade the build quality compared to the popular budget lights reviewed here? I'm interested in this brand/manufacturer and would like to track future offerings. I know nothing so far compares to the TC6 in that regard and Ric even gushes over that light. I was actually curious about driving the X5 harder back when I was considering it. Do you plan on doing any mods? I also think the 'power button' is a nice touch Smile

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Well it is just a wee notch below the TC6. The TC6 hangs in the realm of Fenix / Dereelight.  Absolutely no way would you mistake this for a Trustfire/Brintye.  It feels solid, definitely more solid than the usual budget lights reviewed here.  This is actually still a budget light.  The Shadow TC6 is a nice light esp with neutral white, but still it is a 40mm reflectored light so it does not throw as well.  I just wished they made it bigger, just 8mm bigger and driven 10% harder would definitely bring it comfortably into the 45k region.

asd

 

 

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Oh btw, they use real silicone lube on these OTR/Shadow lights. Not the stinko machine oil stuff you see on Sky Ray, Trustfire, Ultrafire and the usual suspects which take quite a while to get rid with solvents.

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X5 has PWM of 567 and 523Hz on medium and low.  If this is the same for the PAlight T6, then they are basically the same light with the same pretty massive screw-in drop-in  (apply some thermal compound and you are good to go)

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A bump because I’m trying to track down more info on “OnTheRoad”
and this mentions that may be made by “Loongsun”
which is also hard to track down
They were popular a few years ago, mentioned also in this thread
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/5262 at BLF, which pointed to them at CNQG
(those links now throw a SQL error)
Other searches turn up Chinese links that are no longer available
Translation shows there used to be many pages of discussion about many familiar flashlights on those Chinese pages

So this may be “great firewall” problems or something causing rapid bit rot on that end, or ???

Basically I was just hoping to track down info on this little “UC3” charger that charges to 4.28v (sigh)

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I couldn't access the zlsh.net link but you could check out their tmall side : https://ontheroad.world.tmall.com/

hank wrote:
A bump because I'm trying to track down more info on "OnTheRoad" and this mentions that may be made by "Loongsun" which is also hard to track down They were popular a few years ago, mentioned also in this thread http://budgetlightforum.com/node/5262 at BLF, which pointed to them at CNQG (those links now throw a SQL error) Other searches turn up Chinese links that are no longer available Translation shows there used to be many pages of discussion about many familiar flashlights on those Chinese pages So this may be "great firewall" problems or something causing rapid bit rot on that end, or ??? Basically I was just hoping to track down info on this little "UC3" charger that charges to 4.28v (sigh)

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Well, I can’t read Chinese, but looking at the pictures, it looks like

they claim a top voltage on the charger of 4.24, rather less than the 4.28 we’re seeing.

I don’t know what the “100%” logo is supposed to tell.

I’ll add it to HKJ’s request list for chargers to test
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/40322

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Huh, i never thought on the road existed in 2011. Those lights from 2011 had some thick walls