Review: Mystery UltraFire 1x14500 light host/mod potential

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Review: Mystery UltraFire 1x14500 light host/mod potential

Yet another (and likely to be the last for a while) Ultra-Budget 1xAA/14500 light review, with focus on host/mod potential.

This time, it's a mysterious "UltraFire" branded light, $4.69 from BuyinCoins: http://www.buyincoins.com/item/37867.html. This was my first order from BIC, and so far, no complaints.

[Edit] Thanks to Power911 here, I've discovered that this light is actually the L-Q5ZZ!

"UltraFire Q5 LED 700Lm Torch Flashlight Lamp Light 3 Modes 14500 With Clip". 700 Lumens? Q5? Sounds good to me! One thing to note; this light is 14500-only as received. More later...


 

Short Review:

  • Pros: It's modable!
  • Cons: It's big and takes a 15mm driver.

I kind of like the style of this light. It's definitely grippy without relying on the typical knurling of other hosts. The anodizing isn't gray as shown on the BIC website, but is actually a very pale Blue/Silver that is almost iridescent under some light. It's difficult to accurately photograph with the lighting I have here, but it's a very nice color for a light. Unusual in this class of light, all threads are lubed and strangely smooth.

This light is VERY large for a single AA-sized lamp @ 109mm x 24mm. It's actually a mm wider and almost as long as my 18650 C20 host. It's also a hefty piece of aluminum, so it's quite heavy. Unless you have a specific need for a single-14500 host, there are plenty of 18650-sized hosts that would be a better option.

C20 -> Mystery UltraFire -> Protected 18650 -> AA Alkaline -> TrustFire F20

The pocket clip on this light is very nice. The tailcap is an unusual design, with a retaining ring on the outside that holds the boot, and another retaining ring on the inside that holds the switch:

Typical plastic lens/plastic reflector combo. Bezel is heavily crenelated, but is made of aluminum. It would be easy to sand down to a nice Foyzeltm with a file and some sandpaper.

This light has a thread-in pill. This works very well with springs at both the driver and tailcap, so the pill can be adjusted to allow different optic/lens combinations. The light has a Cree XP-E type of emitter (Real? Fake?) on a 16mm PCB. The driver, unfortunately, is a 15mm size. There are aftermarket options available in this size, so this doesn't completely ruin the use as a host. The driver is a 3-mode High/Low/Strobe, with no mode memory, always starts on High. The High mode on this driver is only 500mA, so it's rather gentle. Even so, the emitter and SMO reflector make this a fairly throwy little light.

Unfortunately, the pill isn't solid as it appears to be, but strangely, has an aluminum plate press-fit into the pill for the emitter to rest on. I don't see the need for this given the design of the light, and it just adds another interruption to heat transfer. I'll likely be removing this and just using an emitter on a cheap FastTech Copper PCB as that will add a little extra mass, won't hurt thermal transfer any more than what's already on this light.

The really strong point of this light is the ability to accept multiple optic configurations. The lens diameter is 20mm, and glass replacements are readily available both in standard and AR varieties. Even better, the cheap 21mm TIR optics fit perfectly, once the plastic retaining ring is removed. I've tried the throwy 15-degree option, but that gave a really messy beam. The diffused wider-beam options work much better. I currently have a 45-degree optic in the light, but am expecting a parcel from FastTech with the 25-degree optics to arrive this afternoon. I think tighter beam will work better with the reduced output from this light.


Compatible parts:

45-degree optic: https://www.fasttech.com/p/1574904

25-degree optic: https://www.fasttech.com/p/1574901

Glass lens: https://www.fasttech.com/p/1203406

AR-coated lens: https://www.fasttech.com/p/1203403

Aluminum reflector (Same size, but I don't have one to verify fit): https://www.fasttech.com/p/1203501

15mm single-Li-Ion driver (single mode, 2x AMC7135 with space for a third): http://www.dx.com/p/2-7v-6v-3w-cree-circuit-board-for-flashlights-15mm-2-7mm-25518

15mm 1x-AA (non-Li-Ion) 350-400mA: http://www.dx.com/p/1-5v-350-400ma-constant-current-led-driver-board-for-diy-flashlights-128096

15mm BLF SK68 driver: http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=67&product_id=342


Keepin’ the “B” in BLF

Don wrote:
It sounds like the XM LEDs won’t really be suitable for flashlight use. Pity…

Edited by: keltex78 on 02/11/2015 - 10:34
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Thanks keltex. Lots of usefull information for those thinking of modding one of these. The light looks wise is quite nice, to me anyway.

 

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Good one.

Any ideas about getting a smooth bezel?

I figure if the “attack bezel” on a little flashlight is the only defense I have at hand, I better be already running away

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hank wrote:
Good one. Any ideas about getting a smooth bezel? I figure if the "attack bezel" on a little flashlight is the only defense I have at hand, I better be already running away

I file the main crenelations off with a small file, then with a piece of sandpaper on a flat surface. Once done, you can use rubbing compound to get a nice shiny finish if you like. I've already done the Foyzel treatment on my other PX-516 budget light. I'll be posting a picture of that on the other review thread once I've gotten my new optics in to verify if they will fit.


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Don wrote:
It sounds like the XM LEDs won’t really be suitable for flashlight use. Pity…

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Bonus Feature:

The pocket clip from this light is a perfect fit for an UltraFire 501b host!


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Don wrote:
It sounds like the XM LEDs won’t really be suitable for flashlight use. Pity…

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I just realized yours is a 14500 only light.
Now that’s a surprise.
Because mine supports both AA and 14500 ._.

Edit:

keltex78 wrote:

Aluminum reflector (Same size, but I don’t have one to verify fit): https://www.fasttech.com/p/1203501

I remembered I got one of these reflector so I thought of sharing some feedback

The aluminum reflector drops in and works perfect but you have to sacrifice protection as you cannot put any lens in front of it. Not even the thinnest plastic lens

Beautiful beamshot with that reflector though. Pity that the bezel won’t screw in.

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power911 wrote:
I remembered I got one of these reflector so I thought of sharing some feedback The aluminum reflector drops in and works perfect but you have to sacrifice protection as you cannot put any lens in front of it. Not even the thinnest plastic lens !http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd133/ducttaperulestheworl/Mobile%20U...! !http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd133/ducttaperulestheworl/Mobile%20U...! Beautiful beamshot with that reflector though. Pity that the bezel won't screw in. !http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd133/ducttaperulestheworl/Mobile%20U...

That's sad... I think I would take a file to the reflector an shave a mm or so off the top lip. I'm suprised though as the pill has such a range of depth adjustments that I would have thought it could be made to fit. Even if you have to shorten a spring...


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Don wrote:
It sounds like the XM LEDs won’t really be suitable for flashlight use. Pity…

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the reflector actually sits on the side lip on the light and that’s what causing it to stand tall

bore the front tube out and the reflector will sit deeper in the light.

not sure if I wanna do that. I’ll just grab a smaller diameter reflector instead and let it fall into the tube Silly

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Wow…nice little host

Great find!

If not sand off the teeth on the bezel…take a file to it and cut off those sharp edges