2mods for the XHP70 - Initial Video added - One light is done & BEAM SHOTS ARE UP IN POST #1 - Second light works, but still...

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2mods for the XHP70 - Initial Video added - One light is done & BEAM SHOTS ARE UP IN POST #1 - Second light works, but still...

 

2m1a

More to come real soon.

 First mod is a Solarstorm SP03 that will be modded to 3x XHP70 leds in parallel and will run on a RMM FET driver for 9-10 amps per led, with 2S/4P 18650 Li-ion cells.

Second mod will be a re-make of a 4xSSC-P7 light, that will use 4x XHP70 in series with a Taskled HBFlex driver and 5x26650 Li-ion cells, in a 6D Maglite. The head and heatsink are, (I believe), a LED zeplin heat sink and a 5 mega head. I am not positive of the head, but the heat sink is a LED ZEP heat sink, that was made for SSC-P7 leds and will be modified for the XHP70.

More to come this week-end, when I have some time to work on them.

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 02/13/15 - We had a cold snap here, so not much is being done in the garage. I did manage to reflow all the XHP70 leds to copper mcpcbs and I did manage to get four of them onto the copper topped heat sink, in the four-up light. The copper plate is screwed down to the big heat sink and the stars are held down to that plate with a very thin layer of Arctic Alumina thermal adhesive.

4up1a

I will still need to adjust the height of the reflectors, to get the best beam, but I will be doing that after I have the driver wired up and the light together. Then I will go back and make adjustments. I think I will need to make spacers, to lift up the reflectors, but I don't know for sure yet. That heat sink/head combo right now weighs in at 1 pound 7 ounces. Hey, I will probably need all that mass for the heat these things are going to put out.

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The HBFlex is wired up. I did this setup just like I do all my other Mags. The switch is a momentary SMD switch, mounted in the stock switch housing and the driver has a copper heat sink added, to help keep it cool.

4up2a

 

4up2c

Once it's all in the body, the copper heat sink touches the body.

 

4up2b

The leds are wired and since this all has to screw together, I will run the +/- wires up in, but not solder them till the head is screwed on, so I don't have to deal with twisting wires, while screwing the head on.

 

 

4up2d

The light will use 5xMNKE 26650 cells with a copper extension, to make the length correct for the 6D Maglite.

 

 

4up2e

It works.  I have to program the Taskled driver, which should take me several hours, but hopefully, after going thru 32 pages of the manual, I will have the light working properly.

That's it for now. I consider this half of the build finished and the other light will be worked on this week-end.

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The two bodies for the SP03 are done and the switch and cover is done.

sp2a

I used the drill press, with an end mill bit and a dremel #115 bit, to do all the "mill work". It took several hours and a lot of four letter sentences, but I did get them together and it looks fairly good.

sp2b

They were a tight fit, as in push together hard fit. I used JB weld on the joints, but I left enough aluminum to aluminum, to keep the bodies working as ground.

 

sp2c

The switch went together fairly well. I also used a little JB weld around the edges of the switch hole, so when the copper was pressed in, it will help to keep it in once it hardens.

 

There's not a whole lot more to do right now. I will make the copper led shelf and fit it into the head, but since RMM is doing a custom driver for this and since Oshpark usually takes 3 weeks or more, I figure this thread will sit for a month, till I can finish the SP03.

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02/15/15

I finished up the rest of the head and that's the last of the work for a while, till the driver comes in.

03a1

Stars are mounted with AA and 18ga wires are used.

 

03a2

I had to make thin spacers between the reflector and the leds, with plastic washers. I had to dremel them out to fit and sand them thin with a sanding block.

 

03a3

 

03a4

 

03a5

That's it till the driver comes.

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02/28/15  IT'S COLD!!

It's so cold that I don't even want to be out in the shop, but I was having withdraw symptoms, so I had to try to finish the SP03.

sp4a

The driver that RMM designed for me. It came ready to go, along with a temp sensor.

sp4b

 

 

 

 

sp4c

The temp sensor got fried, my bad. I will have to get another one, but the driver is fine and ready to go.

sp4d

Snaps in place real well.

 

 

 

sp4e

The tail end. Working on the spring plate. I removed the stock springs and went with heavier ones, along with copper braid.

sp4f

 

 

 

sp4g

8 brand new Efest purple 18650s. Time to light it up.

sp4i

It even works, but after about 15 seconds on high, smoke comes out. Probably not good.

sp4j

The smoke is the spacer rings that I made, to go under the reflector. The ceramic substrate gets so hot, that the rings melted where they touched the edges of the leds. I will have to figure something else out. Maybe metal, but I can't put that on the stars, for fear of shorting, so possibly metal stand offs between the leds, to rest the reflector on them. I don't know for sure yet, but I hope the answer eludes me till spring time. IT'S COLD out HERE!

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Edited by: Old-Lumens on 02/28/2015 - 16:26
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Here are some beam shots for the 4X XHP70 light. They were done at work, inside and outside the closed Carrier plant.

 

4x1a

4x1b

4x1c

4x1d

 

 

 

4x1e

4x1f

4x1g

 

 

 

4x2a

4x2b

4x2c

 

 

 

4x2d

4x2e

4x2f

 

 

 

 

4x3a

4x3b

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I see lots of copper….. Can’t wait for more!

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Thanks,,,,,,,,,,,look forward to following your mods! Smile

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finally a mod for my 6D MAG

would 6× 32600 cells work with that driver?

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Ronin42 wrote:
finally a mod for my 6D MAG would 6x 32600 cells work with that driver?
I'm not sure what driver OL is using but if its the one I'm thinking its 21 volts. I have spoken to George the manufacturer of the driver and he does not recommend 6 cells in series due to the components on the driver itself.

 

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MRsDNF……….I had to laugh,,,,I looked at your posts [at this exact moment!] and it is my DOB-6460!!!!

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MRsDNF..........I had to laugh,,,,I looked at your posts [at this exact moment!] and it is my DOB-6460!!!!

Now that's telling.Smile

What about a collaboration build light?

 

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5 cells maximum for the HBFlex driver. It boosts up to 26 volt, (I think), but no more than 5 cells input.

Can anyone buy it? It's for a customer, so it's already owned by someone.

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MRsDNF wrote:
What about a collaboration build light?

Sorry about this. I must have had to many posts open and copied it into the wrong thread. 

I've just watched the video OL. All I can say is I wish I was there. Thanks and cheers.

 

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One light is finished and posted in the OP.

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Its nice to see all four leds light up.Smile Me not being the brightest guy here found it easier to program the driver hooked up to a single led on the bench before the light was assembled. I'd be interested to here your thoughts on the driver itself.

 

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Can’t wait for the beam shots.. it’s going to be awesome! Beer

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BEAM SHOTS IN POST #1

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MRsDNF wrote:

Its nice to see all four leds light up.Smile Me not being the brightest guy here found it easier to program the driver hooked up to a single led on the bench before the light was assembled. I'd be interested to here your thoughts on the driver itself.

George makes very good drivers and the absolute most complicated set of adjustable parameters I have ever seen. 32 printed pages of information on the three main groups and the 14 separate adjustable parameters. Great for a young genius, but very bad for an old fart man like me, who can't wrap his head around all that stuff and who can't "quick press" fast enough to execute the steps.Frown

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One of the best beam shots I’ve seen. Veeeery bright and looks to have decent throw too! Can’t wait to see the sp03 version

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Yep, I like the location and it's different than the norm. I do believe the SP03 will not be as bright. Even with 9 amps per led, I think this 4-up will give more total lumens, but I am hoping the SP03 will give more throw, due to larger reflectors. 

One thing for sure is that whenever I do these monsters, I just don't appreciate a single led light any more. The HD2010 with an MT-G2 was what I carried every night, but now I don't even want to turn it on.

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Ever since I have joined this forum I have noticed an utter disdain for multi emitter lights greater than 3. Probably a throw back to the early days when the brightest LED lights were those 9 emitter 3xAAA ones. Back then as is the case now, the most effective way to get a lot of light is to use a lot of emitters.
Maybe now attitudes will change and it will be OK to build these kinds of lights again.

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I say this because, in effect, OL just built himself a 16 emitter light. Wink

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More photos in the OP. This thread will probably sit for a month, as the custom driver that RMM just designed, has to go thru Oshpark and then to him, so a good month, knowing how Oshpark works.

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dchomak wrote:
Ever since I have joined this forum I have noticed an utter disdain for multi emitter lights greater than 3. Probably a throw back to the early days when the brightest LED lights were those 9 emitter 3xAAA ones. Back then as is the case now, the most effective way to get a lot of light is to use a lot of emitters. Maybe now attitudes will change and it will be OK to build these kinds of lights again. Edit: I say this because, in effect, OL just built himself a 16 emitter light. ;)

I agree and then again, I don't. Multi emitter lights are great if you; have a lot of money for components, have a huge heat sink and great heat transfer, have tons of high amp batteries and have a sling to carry the heavy beast. They are super bright and if you do want to light up a football field, a huge building, a cave, or just a huge area, they are great. But... they will never have long run times and they are not very practical or compact.

I do think everyone needs something like this, just to be able to show it off. Imagine this in a football stadium? Just before the cops took you buddy away.Wink (here hold this for a minute).  Well, you wouldn't want to get arrested yourself would ya?Tongue Out

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If I send it to China, it could be a 1,000,000 lumen light!

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Holy crap, my jab just hit the floor! Awesome work!

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