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The 1×30 or 1×42 bent grinders/sanders can do wonderful things for many materials. I’d suggest good belts, a light touch and a way to cool the blade by your side.

Also PRACTICE!!!! Your idea of building your sense of touch on beater knives is an important idea.

i have belts from 85 to 2000 plus a leather stropping belt along with several different jewelers rouges but really not necessary for every day carry. an 85 and 240 belt will do most of the work along with a ceramic rod for light touchup.

I completely agree and have a similar variety of belts (including the leather one). It just looks nice to have that gleaming mirror edge to show off to friends.

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I finished my review about the Ganzo G803 and the Hx Outdoors TD-01 survival knives.

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Nice knives!.

In a short time i will put my review of td01 with two knives more for comparing…

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The Ganzo G803 is a very good deal especially when it’s on sale.

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Price dropped on Ganzo F7562, now it’s $15 for G10 and $16 for CF version! with Gearbest points it can be really cheap deal Wink Unlucky me, should have waited few days more, it was $21 at the time I ordered it. Don’t know if prices dropped on other knives…
FB7601 CF $23 – last time i checked it was $27, again, can be pretty good deal with GB points

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Price dropped on Ganzo F7562, now it’s $15 for G10 and $16 for CF version! with Gearbest points it can be really cheap deal Wink Unlucky me, should have waited few days more, it was $21 at the time I ordered it. Don’t know if prices dropped on other knives… FB7601 CF $23 – last time i checked it was $27, again, can be pretty good deal with GB points

Just ordered the CF7562 with GB points! See below:-

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We appreciate your shopping! Your order has been submitted successfully, please remember your order number: W1803080650221796. The payment amount is: $13.01 USD
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Thanx for the tip!

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Just got 3 very nice and beautiful knives today. Did paper slice test just now, surprisingly two bigger knives slice better with CTSmart claw knife slices the best.

cool i'll see you when you get there

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DENGOH wrote:
Just got 3 very nice and beautiful knives today. Did paper slice test just now, surprisingly two bigger knives slice better with CTSmart claw knife slices the best.

How much does the “Praetorian” (in the middle) weight?
I have the full steel version and that’s the heaviest folder I have ever seen. Smile

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I hope I^‘ll get my Y_Start damascus knife on monday and that Sanrenmu with the dragon on it.

If I don’t like the dragon it will get a CF scale. Nah, of course it will get a CF scale eventually anyways…

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Anyone from California order OTF’s or Autos from Ali,Fastech or DHGate have any issues receiving your order?

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In Europe there is now the Sanrenmu Land 810 (8103/8104). Size is in between 710 and 910


Lately Europe is getting all the best Sanrenmu knives, many new models, flipper models, titanium version of 710 and 910, etc. For some reason impossible to buy them from Chinese stores

Nice!

I could only find it in a Polish store, do you have other links?

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Ganzo are cheap junk.

You’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to mine. And in my opinion your statement is absolutely untrue.

Tac Force, M-Tech, WarTech, Tiger USA, Snake eye, Master Cutlery etc.? Those are cheap junk! Not Ganzo. Ganzo’s quality is EXCELLENT compared to those, the difference is night and day.

For someone just getting into knives on a budget they should stay away from those cheap junk knives on ebay and buy some Ganzo’s. The quality is 100 times better than those cheap junk knives. I own well over 100 knives and my Ganzo’s are some of the best mid quality knives I own. I’d rate them as being in the quality range of Sanrenmu, and many Kershaw, CRKT, SOG and Camillus, I’d put them above most Gerber, Boker magnum, Schrade and S&W.

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They know how to copy the look of a knife but they don’t know how to make a good (functional) knife. They are for mall ninjas.

Again completely untrue, and I take great offense to the demoralizing “mall ninja” characterization.

Tac Force, M-Tech, WarTech, Tiger USA, Snake eye, Master Cutlery, those are for mall ninjas, not Ganzo. I own and use Ganzo’s and I am not a mall ninja, far from it. My Ganzos are very functional in real use, not just looks, and the AXIS locks do work GREAT.

And Ganzo’s are a great value too, most are around $20, that’s only slightly more than the real “cheap junk mall ninja knives” such as Tac Force, M-Tech, WarTech, Tiger USA, Snake eye, Master Cutlery etc.

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Just received a GANZO G7291-BK from Fasttech. 12 days to USA! Actual delivery time was 6 days from when it left Hong Kong!
https://www.fasttech.com/p/4887300

Another excellent Ganzo as usual. Perfect in every way.
I love the excellent grip of the random CNC cut grooves in the G10. WAY better grip than plain G10.

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Again completely untrue, and I take great offense to the demoralizing “mall ninja” characterization.

My Ganzos are very functional in real use, not just looks, and the AXIS locks do work GREAT.


A knife company like Spyderco are primarily concerned with the function of their knives. Their number one goal is to make sure that every knife that leaves the factory is well made, has a good locking mechanism, can be relied upon etc.

Ganzo’s business model is to copy the look of other knives (incl Spyderco). Not the function, they want to copy the look. The function is a much lower priority for them. We can prove this by how easily their axis-lock fails, how soft the screws are, uneven blade grinds etc. They have made knives that look heavy duty (and weigh a lot!) but which are not suitable for heavy duty use.

If you buy knives based on looks rather than function … maybe mall ninja is a harsh term but you are a certain class of buyer who Ganzo target. Most of their customers will never discover their knives shortcomings because they don’t really use them. Maybe they just take photos of their black knife with their black torch so they can pretend to themselves that they are spec ops

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We can prove this by how easily their axis-lock fails, how soft the screws are, uneven blade grinds etc. They have made knives that look heavy duty (and weigh a lot!) but which are not suitable for heavy duty use.

Evidence? It’s bad form to talk about proving something without providing any supporting evidence.

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I too would be quite interested in evidence of Ganzo’s locking mechanisms “easily failing”, what with the 3 or 4 I have coming my way from GearBest (which is mostly this thread’s fault, btw. :p) Big Smile

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I EDC a Ganzo f753m1 and use it everyday for various usage…
From opening packages to eating, it never failed…
I also have a Ganzo f7601 at work, and it had seen sor pretty rough uses without failing…
I don’t know what Varbos’ expectations are, but we might have some different point of view about what a knife is made for…

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varbos wrote:
beam0 wrote:

Again completely untrue, and I take great offense to the demoralizing “mall ninja” characterization.

My Ganzos are very functional in real use, not just looks, and the AXIS locks do work GREAT.


A knife company like Spyderco are primarily concerned with the function of their knives. Their number one goal is to make sure that every knife that leaves the factory is well made, has a good locking mechanism, can be relied upon etc.

Ganzo’s business model is to copy the look of other knives (incl Spyderco). Not the function, they want to copy the look. The function is a much lower priority for them. We can prove this by how easily their axis-lock fails, how soft the screws are, uneven blade grinds etc. They have made knives that look heavy duty (and weigh a lot!) but which are not suitable for heavy duty use.

If you buy knives based on looks rather than function … maybe mall ninja is a harsh term but you are a certain class of buyer who Ganzo target. Most of their customers will never discover their knives shortcomings because they don’t really use them. Maybe they just take photos of their black knife with their black torch so they can pretend to themselves that they are spec ops


I mostly agree with you, but you must admit that those knives looks very nice on shared images took together with their led illuminated keyboards. Wink
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Well, me as a beginner into budget blades, I didn’t like Ganzos either. But after few days of playing with my FB7601, I started to like it and therefore ordered F7562. In the future I’ll order few more for sure, next would be Ganzo cleaver. Let’s be honest, there is hundreds of blade designs created, maybe thousands…Do you really think that something new can be created that doesn’t remind you of some other model? As one Youtuber said, if you look it that way, than all cars are each others copy, etc etc…No one is complaining about cimilar design cars, phones, planes, wheels, spoons, forks, but when you see similar design of a knife, it’s a disaster!!! For me, I don’t see any good company besides Ganzo that is making attractive and quality knives. Ganzo is for sure not the best quality making knife company, but for that budget price range, we cannot complain! I could never afford real Sebenza, or Benchmade or any other expensive AF knife, I live in poor country, that is a fact, and I’m totally satisfied with Ganzo for now. Wish Sanrenmu do knives more often as they seem to have better quality production…

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Even if you could afford it and were willing to spend the cash, you’d need to constantly be on your toes regarding legality… I’ve been thinking about ordering a Benchmade BugOut and a Griptilian (and those are on the lower end of the price spectrum if we’re honest), but spending that much money on an EDC tool only makes sense if you can carry it legally – not the case here in Germany. If I go across the border to Belgium or the Netherlands (30-60 minute drive, great for weekend outings), even a little SAK type slipjoint can get confiscated.

A 15€ knife, on the other hand? Ehhh, sure, I’ll just use that around the house and for the odd camping trip. And if it gets confiscated, no big deal.

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Zulumoose wrote:

Evidence? It’s bad form to talk about proving something without providing any supporting evidence.


https://youtu.be/Xy-hAbjBwN8?t=1m28s
https://youtu.be/HetNwRbwR08

I can link dozens of videos and/or reports. I owned two which did same…I got rid of them. They simply do not understand (or care) how to make a good axis lock. They only care how to make a knife which looks like a Spyderco/BM/etc

You can say “my one doesn’t do that”. In my opinion, if even 1% of shipped knives have this problem, it is totally unacceptable.

Also to save a lot of time, I should say that if you are one of those guys with affiliate links, deal sites, blogs etc …. I do not consider your opinion to be unbiased. Ganzo sales and getting free knives are a big part of these guys revenue. I fully understand and expect these guys to come out in force and disagree with me. Don’t bother.

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varbos wrote:
Yes, sure:
https://www.rakuten.de/produkt/sanrenmu-land-810-stahlversion-8010-21937...

I found disassembly photo also
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bfz3OhqBZB9/?hl=en&taken-by=emil.roch
Looks like washers but with little holes in them ?


Yes, that’s washers with holes to hold more lubricant.

Good point and easier to skip this one.
I really love the action on my 910+ so if they ever make a version with ball bearings then I’ll get one.

…or if GB or FT gets them I’ll buy one on a $10 flash sale Wink

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Received these two beauties today … Smile
Top: Ganzo F7562-CF
Bottom: Ganzo F7452-CF
No complaints whatsoever. I love theses Carbon laminate scales. Excellent blades.

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Yes, that’s washers with holes to hold more lubricant.

Good point and easier to skip this one.
I really love the action on my 910+ so if they ever make a version with ball bearings then I’ll get one.

…or if GB or FT gets them I’ll buy one on a $10 flash sale Wink


Yes, I hope GB or FT get them because price-wise they should fit between the 7010 and 9103. So $10 is quite possible. Unfortunately price in Europe is prohibitive due to tax and distributors cut etc. I would not spend €23 on one of these personally.
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p=. Received these two beauties today … Smile
Top: Ganzo F7562-CF
Bottom: Ganzo F7452-CF
No complaints whatsoever. I love theses Carbon laminate scales. Excellent blades.

You should be more careful about posting photos of black knives with black flashlights or black watches because others might think you’re pretending to be a member of some spec op team. Wink

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varbos wrote:
Adahn wrote:

Yes, that’s washers with holes to hold more lubricant.

Good point and easier to skip this one.
I really love the action on my 910+ so if they ever make a version with ball bearings then I’ll get one.

…or if GB or FT gets them I’ll buy one on a $10 flash sale Wink


Yes, I hope GB or FT get them because price-wise they should fit between the 7010 and 9103. So $10 is quite possible. Unfortunately price in Europe is prohibitive due to tax and distributors cut etc. I would not spend €23 on one of these personally.

Yes, well, difficult. The 910+ or 9103/4 are definitely worth the price asked for in Europe, esp. since you get warranty that way and can return it when it sux.
(Ok, from China you usually get full refund, but some folks like safety)

So if they’d promote the 910 series in the $20- $30 range right away they’d still sell well enough, if you see comparable knives from Kizer or Boker Plus and the like.

Many CRKT and Kershaws are more expensive in EU yet less well fabricated imo.

By the way, the 9103 has become pricey lately. For a while they sold them for $10, now it’s 25 on GB and discontinued on FT…

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I’ve seen many youtube reviews where there are complaints of USA made Spydercos & Benchmades with uneven grinds and non centered blades, so even they are not on their game sometimes.

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varbos wrote:
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Again completely untrue, and I take great offense to the demoralizing “mall ninja” characterization.

My Ganzos are very functional in real use, not just looks, and the AXIS locks do work GREAT.


A knife company like Spyderco are primarily concerned with the function of their knives. Their number one goal is to make sure that every knife that leaves the factory is well made, has a good locking mechanism, can be relied upon etc.
On and on about Spyderco. Please re check the title of this thread.
varbos wrote:
Ganzo’s business model is to copy the look of other knives (incl Spyderco). Not the function, they want to copy the look. The function is a much lower priority for them.
The percentage of Ganzo original designs outnumbers their copied designs. But on their copies the function is a high priority for them, they copy the look then add BETTER function, PM2, RAT-1 with Axis locks Thumbs Up Thumbs Up (= looks + better function) You sound quite upset about the copies, do you work for Spyderco?
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We can prove this by how easily their axis-lock fails
Again untrue. It does not fail easy. I just tested the Axis lock on my G727M with many very hard spine whacks on a block, sorry, no fail.

Benchmade Axis locks have been known to fail, as well as Spyderco’s back locks, try google.

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If you buy knives based on looks rather than function … maybe mall ninja is a harsh term but you are a certain class of buyer who Ganzo target. Most of their customers will never discover their knives shortcomings because they don’t really use them. Maybe they just take photos of their black knife with their black torch so they can pretend to themselves that they are spec ops

Why are you attacking me personally with your extremely rude innuendo? I did not attack you personally at all in my post, I merely stated my disagreement. The comment was unnecessary. Obviously you cannot tolerate when someone disagrees with you. There’s a word for someone who engages in that kind of dialogue on a forum, it begins with T and ends with L. This is my last reply on the matter, I’m sure you’ll need to get the last word in though, so have at it.

BTW 98% of flashlights are black. I hope you never post a photo of a black knife or flashlight here.

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Why are you attacking me personally with your extremely rude innuendo? I did not attack you personally at all in my post, I merely stated my disagreement. The comment was unnecessary. Obviously you cannot tolerate when someone disagrees with you. There’s a word for someone who engages in that kind of dialogue on a forum, it begins with T and ends with L. This is my last reply on the matter, I’m sure you’ll need to get the last word in though, so have at it.

BTW 98% of flashlights are black. I hope you never post a photo of a black knife or flashlight here.


You are seeing a personal ‘attack’ that does not exist. Please apologize for the rude and false accusation.

I was referring to the general buyer – nobody in particular – who buys cheap ‘tacticool’ stuff and then posts pictures of their EDC ‘system’ with everything lined up neatly on their desk.

And the only reason I mention this is to illustrate the different type of buyers. One guy buys a Spyderco because it functions well. Another guy buys a Ganzo because it looks like a Spyderco. Do you see the difference? If your purpose is to just look at it and take photos then sure, Ganzo are a great knife. They look great. They look pretty close to the model they are copying. The lock probably won’t fail cutting open a bag of doritos while playing video games. But if you are actually using them in the real world then in my opinion they are not so good, for reasons already mentioned. They prioritize copying the look (not function) of other knives at a low price.

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p=. Received these two beauties today … Smile
Top: Ganzo F7562-CF
Bottom: Ganzo F7452-CF
No complaints whatsoever. I love theses Carbon laminate scales. Excellent blades.

You should be more careful about posting photos of black knives with black flashlights or black watches because others might think you’re pretending to be a member of some spec op team. Wink

Yes … you are correct. I wouldn’t want anyone to get the wrong idea about my covert activities. These days my one man Spec OP’s amount to taking the trash out curbside every Tuesday night, slicing open the odd bag of Doritos and periodically glancing at my wrist for a time check. Pretty sneaky with the right “Black” tools and keeping to the operations budget.

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