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RapidLux wrote:
I consider to buy CH3531 cleaver www.aliexpress.com/item/4000252615421.html Can the specified hardness HRC60 be trusted? Someone here that knows its real HRC?

Other CH knives tested by Luv Them Knives have been the advertised steel. Hardness seems to vary. Some were above the advertised hardness and some were below.

This knife has a curious blend of features. It’s a folding knife with a flipper tab. It’s also a cleaver with a hole for hanging. It isn’t just any hole either. That hole is meant to hang securely on a nail.

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You can easily tell if its real D2 or not. Since its not a stainless steel you will easily get light rust stains on the blade. All my no-name titanium D2 knifes are fake but not my Ganzo and Sanrenmu.

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New little knife today and a new idea for a Cold Steel advertisement… That blade cuts through brioche like it was nothing!

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I’ve been busy the last couple of months… Big Smile

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chooma wrote:
I’ve been busy the last couple of months… Big Smile

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Lovely! Thumbs Up Which one is your favourite fixed blade?
What’s the name of the brown slip joint folder at the bottom? It’s really nice.

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Fixed blade would be the tiny Esee Candiru, been used the most.

The slip joint is a Carhart Backpocket, probably carried the most with the Convoy in sheath.
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That big Panthera is kind of easy to carry, slim profile and kind of lite.
These are the latest budget knives I have received.

Clone, copies, fakes….whatever Smile

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My army of clones: Smile

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Like…..

Can you swing the blade back and forth while holding back the lock?

I have a real BM mini grip and that’s what I like about it.

That is a mini on the bottom and large are the top 2?

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That’s correct. Surprisingly the mini is the smoothest out of the box.

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That big Panthera is kind of easy to carry, slim profile and kind of lite. These are the latest budget knives I have received.

But…what about the traditional knives??
They are beautiful!!
I really like the coupple of Whinchester and the…?? Which brand is the next down the Winchester coke bottle handle’s?
Are they “chinese” replica or old made american made? (no matter for me, just to know about).
Thank you!!!!

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They are U.S. made there is a Winchester Banana Trapper Lockback then the Winchester Large Coke Bottle and below that is a Case Coke Bottle.
Nice large blades.

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They are U.S. made there is a Winchester Banana Trapper Lockback then the Winchester Large Coke Bottle and below that is a Case Coke Bottle.
Nice large blades.

Oh dear…I was hoping they were from China…so I could afford them Evil Sad
The Case have a very nice full flat blade. I hame so jealous Big Smile
Thank you very much sir!

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They are U.S. made there is a Winchester Banana Trapper Lockback then the Winchester Large Coke Bottle and below that is a Case Coke Bottle.
Nice large blades.

Oh dear…I was hoping they were from China…so I could afford them Evil Sad
The Case have a very nice full flat blade. I hame so jealous Big Smile
Thank you very much sir!

For China made traditionals you could try this:
http://www.roughriderknives.com/knives/

I love the easy money series Wink

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I’m curious to try a folding knife from Aliexpress. I liked my CRKT M16, until I lost it. Great knife and exactly the right size. Bigger knives start to scare people around here. I would like something with a better grade of steel.

Omega_17 wrote:
You can easily tell if its real D2 or not. Since its not a stainless steel you will easily get light rust stains on the blade. All my no-name titanium D2 knifes are fake but not my Ganzo and Sanrenmu.

Ganzo seems to make good knives and the D2 is legit. All of them seem slightly bigger than what I’d like.
What are all those clones like? Good for show, but crap quality?
Any brands you would recommend, besides Ganzo and Sanrenmu?
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Ganzo seems to make good knives and the D2 is legit. All of them seem slightly bigger than what I’d like. What are all those clones like? Good for show, but crap quality? Any brands you would recommend, besides Ganzo and Sanrenmu?

Ganzo came out with a smaller version of the FH11, the F11S. I know it’s smaller but I don’t have the specs right here in front of me.

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FH11S with D2 blade
Total length: 184 mm
Blade length: 78 mm
Blade thickness: 2.9 mm
Weight: 82 g

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FH11S with D2 blade Total length: 184 mm Blade length: 78 mm Blade thickness: 2.9 mm Weight: 82 g

FH51 has almost same dimensions Total length 185 mm Blade 81 mm, 87g.

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Ganzo also makes the 727M and the 727s that have 2.9 in blades. The difference between the G727M and FB727S is the latter is a newer model with bearings. There is also the F753M with a 2.9 in blade.

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Ganzo also makes the 727M and the 727s that have 2.9 in blades. The difference between the G727M and FB727S is the latter is a newer model with bearings. There is also the F753M with a 2.9 in blade.

The new FB727S is much smaller than the G727M (blade length 3.07” / 78 mm vs. 3.46” / 88 mm). I have both of them and I prefer the FB727S for light EDC.

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Doing some research, supposedly the D2 steel of Ganzo is lab tested and genuine. Hardness of 62, a bit on the high side. No idea how good the heat treating is. Even if it’s not great, it should still be better than the AUS6/AUS8 knives I’m used to.
Bladeforums has a few topics about this, what a dumpster fire. They probably have a point, about the fakes and lower quality control. They’re clinging on to the past or their pride, treating anything Chinese as inferior.

Plenty of suggestions here. Besides a bit shorter, I also like it to be fairly narrow. I’ll do some more research. If anyone can share more names of trustworthy Chinese manufacturers, I would be happy to hear about them.

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teus wrote:
Doing some research, supposedly the D2 steel of Ganzo is lab tested and genuine. Hardness of 62, a bit on the high side. No idea how good the heat treating is. Even if it’s not great, it should still be better than the AUS6/AUS8 knives I’m used to.
Bladeforums has a few topics about this, what a dumpster fire. They probably have a point, about the fakes and lower quality control. They’re clinging on to the past or their pride, treating anything Chinese as inferior.

Plenty of suggestions here. Besides a bit shorter, I also like it to be fairly narrow. I’ll do some more research. If anyone can share more names of trustworthy Chinese manufacturers, I would be happy to hear about them.

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Just ordered the FH11S. Blade isn’t too wide, has a flipper. Let’s see how it goes.

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The difference between the G727M and FB727S is the latter is a newer model with bearings.

How do you know its on bearings? There is no indication in the specs in the official website.

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I don`t know about the rest but my FB727S runs on bearings. Smile

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You’ll find. At those prices they are Chinese/Vietnam MFG.
Variable quality,assembly of.
Could be lucky. But they tend to be luck of the draw.

For Half decent, A lot of Chef’s use as good beaters.
Go to Hocho Knives. and check out the Tojiro Japanese.
Genuine VG10 triple layer. Worth the money.
I have several, use daily.

Above. Slippy polished timber handles.
You seriously use the knife.
Get a small tube of Clear Silicon.
Smear it very lightly over the scales.
It gives a lot more grip. But you lose the “polished” look.

I ended up buying the Stratos.. Shipped to son in N.C.
He’ll pass it on with sister in law.
She flight crew on Quantas Aust/US runs.

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teus wrote:
I’m curious to try a folding knife from Aliexpress. I liked my CRKT M16, until I lost it. Great knife and exactly the right size. Bigger knives start to scare people around here. I would like something with a better grade of steel.
Omega_17 wrote:
You can easily tell if its real D2 or not. Since its not a stainless steel you will easily get light rust stains on the blade. All my no-name titanium D2 knifes are fake but not my Ganzo and Sanrenmu.
Ganzo seems to make good knives and the D2 is legit. All of them seem slightly bigger than what I’d like. What are all those clones like? Good for show, but crap quality? Any brands you would recommend, besides Ganzo and Sanrenmu?

The M16-14FK is one of my favourite.

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I’ve got a Y-Start —02 D2 blade.

Alongside my Ganzo SanRenMu and Harnd’s.
I’d say it Maybe, a touch better that Harnds.
and a step up from other two.
F&F. Bearings. Balance in hand and feel.

That’s only My view.
With the models of the Knives I own.

There’s an awful lot out there.
Probably 98% of them better than my choices of blades.
Who knows.. I’m happy.

Ah well. I’ve got a Cold Steel 6in fixed, and an Iseya “I” Hammered series. 7 1\2in Santoku on the way.

Old one is Tojiro triple lam VG10. (I looove the blade shape and feel)
Tojiro are Very nice working blade.
But wife saw this and said X-Mas…
If you want a X-Mas. THEY are a niiice Light piece of mid range 33 layer laminate.
So I keep telling myself.

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teus wrote:
Doing some research, supposedly the D2 steel of Ganzo is lab tested and genuine. Hardness of 62, a bit on the high side. No idea how good the heat treating is. Even if it’s not great, it should still be better than the AUS6/AUS8 knives I’m used to. Bladeforums has a few topics about this, what a dumpster fire. They probably have a point, about the fakes and lower quality control. They’re clinging on to the past or their pride, treating anything Chinese as inferior.

I love Blade Forums but the place isn’t without difficulties. For instance, it’s very difficult to have a rational conversation about Ganzo knives over there. I understand opposition to counterfeits and clones, especially when some makers are contributors to the forum. I personally find counterfeits deplorable. That’s not what Ganzo does though. Sure, they have borrowed design elements and arguably a few clones. The difference is that they’re not trying to pass them off as something else, or lying about their steel content. There are also considerations regarding the historical progression of technology, the intricacies of intellectual property across different geopolitical zones and markets, etc. The hate usually feels a little misguided or poorly founded. Sometimes, it just boils down to anti-Chinese sentiment.

An interesting point made by Kevin Cleary is that some of the people advocating that hate might be unknowingly carrying a Ganzo-made knife. Given that many American or other companies have contracted to have their knives made in China anyway, Ganzo is one of the companies that might have made them.

Anyway, Ganzo’s D2 has been independently tested by various YouTubers. The HRC has been pretty good but that may have set artificially high expectations. From what I recall, cut testing puts Ganzo’s D2 on par with other budget D2 lines from China such as Steel Will’s. Given that Ganzo is delivering near the bottom of the price pool and competing with a lot of knives using 8Cr13Mov; I’d say that’s a win.

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Xanadu NEW 14C28N steel tactical camping folding Knives G10 handle hunting Self-defense tool EDC cutter YX622
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Anyone have any budget front flippers like this?

Any others you can link me to would be cool…thanks

I think I have to have one to play with.

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