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Great little backpack knife.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Multi-functional-Stainless-steel-mini-knife-EDC-tool-webbing-buckle-Molle-system-camp-survival-gear-Outdoor/32289073017.html

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Great little backpack knife. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Multi-functional-Stainless-steel-mini-knife-EDC-tool-webbing-buckle-Molle-system-camp-survival-gear-Outdoor/32289073017.html !http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/32289073017/Multi-functional-Stainles...EDC-tool-webbing-buckle-Molle-system-camp-survival-gear-Outdoor.jpg!

I like those, I’ll be having some of those next month when my finances recover from the FastTech sale.

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I got a couple of those, really like them, useful for the nastier tasks like prying, scraping etc when you don’t want to damage the edge on a decent knife.
They arrive fairly blunt with steep angles . I didn’t bother to sharpen them.

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thought i would post this deal.
Use the code NUCK CHORRIS AT http://www.edgeequipped.com/knucks/ for 10% off on all edged equipment

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At very long last, received my first "batch" (6 total) of Sanrenmu and Enlan blades from FastTech.

First impression:  Really worth the money!!!

Pros:  Exactly as pictured and measured on FastTech; Fit/finish much more than acceptable; Blades not dull out-of-the-box; Individually packaged in retail blister danglers which protected them from each other during shipping; No excessive oils/greases/gunks oozing out of them; Relatively clean surfaces; Mechanically operational; So far, lock-ups are perfectly stable and blades centered.

Cons: A few of them will be disassembled, cleaned and lighly lubed - actions around pivot are either gritty or a bit resistive; Perhaps a few internals may need stoned; May use a fine file or sandpaper to round just one or two sharp liner edges.

Neutral: Most will be sharpened before use.

Verdict:  I can think of no "knife-based" reasons to not buy, use and gift these gems!!!!!  Exceptional values!!!!!

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Sweet. Just bought 2 of those little backpack knives. Kinda hard to think that Aliexpress is going to expand in US if they don’t take paypal Sad

       
       
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I have emailed some of the venders and they have given me some PayPal accounts to pay to after they sent me a bill. not often but it does happen.

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wahoowad wrote:
Sweet. Just bought 2 of those little backpack knives. Kinda hard to think that Aliexpress is going to expand in US if they don’t take paypal Sad

They are too big to need PayPal.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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Has anybody seen any reviews or feedback about these Chinese Ontario RAT-18868 Folding Knives? I think I want one for $19

       
       
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Has anybody seen any reviews or feedback about these Chinese Ontario RAT-18868 Folding Knives? I think I want one for $19

!{width:90%}http://i.imgur.com/0oPKXTI.jpg!

I wouldn’t buy them personally. Not aus-8 steel, more like 3cr.

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The Burgh wrote:

At very long last, received my first “batch” (6 total) of Sanrenmu and Enlan blades from FastTech.

First impression:  Really worth the money!!!

Pros:  Exactly as pictured and measured on FastTech; Fit/finish much more than acceptable; Blades not dull out-of-the-box; Individually packaged in retail blister danglers which protected them from each other during shipping; No excessive oils/greases/gunks oozing out of them; Relatively clean surfaces; Mechanically operational; So far, lock-ups are perfectly stable and blades centered.

Cons: A few of them will be disassembled, cleaned and lighly lubed – actions around pivot are either gritty or a bit resistive; Perhaps a few internals may need stoned; May use a fine file or sandpaper to round just one or two sharp liner edges.

Neutral: Most will be sharpened before use.

Verdict:  I can think of no “knife-based” reasons to not buy, use and gift these gems!!!!!  Exceptional values!!!!!


I ordered two after reading this.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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That’s $6 less than Amazon. If it is genuine, it seems like a good deal.

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Has anybody seen any reviews or feedback about these Chinese Ontario RAT-18868 Folding Knives? I think I want one for $19

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If it is genuine, it seems like a good deal.

Genuine/original and Aliexpress seems far to be right aka I think that Rat1 is not genuine or again, is veeeery difficoult find some things original on Aliexpress… Wink

But…if you wanna try, I’ll wait for you report about Rat1 and than will decide if buy it or not from same vendor :bigsmile:

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If it is genuine, it seems like a good deal.

Genuine/original and Aliexpress seems far to be right aka I think that Rat1 is not genuine or again, is veeeery difficoult find some things original on Aliexpress… Wink

But…if you wanna try, I’ll wait for you report about Rat1 and than will decide if buy it or not from same vendor :bigsmile:

It’s an excellent heavy duty user knife for the money. I can’t certify wether the blade is made of AUS-8 or not but it easily performs at the same level like my 9Cr18MoV or 8Cr13MoV blades from Enlan. I grabbed both of mine HERE.

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could probably be certain that they are not aus-8

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downlinx wrote:
could probably be certain that they are not aus-8

I can’t comment that. I don’t want to achive the “keyboard metallurgist” title here. Big Smile

Certain sellers mark these ~$19 priced RAT folders as “little defect”. I wanted to be sure about the quality that’s why I ordered both of mine from a reliable seller.

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downlinx wrote:
could probably be certain that they are not aus-8

Certain sellers mark these ~$19 priced RAT folders as “little defect”. I wanted to be sure about the quality that’s why I ordered both of mine from a reliable seller.

Any reason to believe this seller isn’t selling the same knife as where you bought yours for $24? His is $19.

I wanted a bigger folder so recently ordered the Harnds Viper. It is sitting in my mailbox according to the tracking info. But I’m already having buyers regret because I didn’t get the exact color i wanted so thinking plan B is this $19 Rat1 clone.

       
       
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downlinx wrote:
could probably be certain that they are not aus-8

Certain sellers mark these ~$19 priced RAT folders as “little defect”. I wanted to be sure about the quality that’s why I ordered both of mine from a reliable seller.

Any reason to believe this seller isn’t selling the same knife as where you bought yours for $24? His is $19.

I wanted a bigger folder so recently ordered the Harnds Viper. It is sitting in my mailbox according to the tracking info. But I’m already having buyers regret because I didn’t get the exact color i wanted so thinking plan B is this $19 Rat1 clone.

I had plenty of pleasant deals with that seller I linked. I don’t know anything about this other cheaper seller.

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Just received an attractive knife in the mail today from FastTech.  First thing I did after inspecting and wiping it down was put it in my pocket.

"Authentic Sanrenmu 7078MUX-GVK"

Literally razor sharp. Perfect fit (3 finger) and cutting angle for my mid-sized hands.  Black back spacer works well with teal upper color.  Jimping and thumb insert are perfectly aligned for comfortable thumb grip.  Inset (not insert) tan scales make for perfect contour.  Opening action requires some effort/flick.

Please note that lock-up occurs with internal detents - manual closing requires a firm push-down on the spine of the blade.  This is not a liner/frame lock.  Okay with me as I don't put my EDCs to hard use requiring hard lockup.

$11.58 delivered????????  Insane bargain and value!!!!!!!  The knife I took out of my pocket was a CRKT Ken Onion Eros - a fantastic knife in its own right - at $115.79!  For me, exactly 10% of the cost for 90% of the knife (10% goes to the Eros for lightning fast deployment, true lockup and aesthetic beauty).

 

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Is the flip on this knife decent?

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Not decent yet.

Requires some constant light pressure the whole way to open.  I think that is due to the detents applying partial pressure until full open, at which time the detents snap into place.

Won't know for certain until I take it apart.

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I haven’t been able to get mine to flip well yet and I’ve had it for months. I even disassembled and polished the internals to see if I could reduce some friction. It helped, but it still requires a lot of wrist to get it to open. Other than that it’s a great pocket knife: crazy sharp and comfortable in the hand.

Edit: Oh lord, putting this knife back together is a nightmare. Still a fun knife, but you have been warned.

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Not decent yet.

Requires some constant light pressure the whole way to open.  I think that is due to the detents applying partial pressure until full open, at which time the detents snap into place.

Won’t know for certain until I take it apart.

The détente system causes enough drag so the smaller flippers need a bit of tinkering to get to work. The blades are not really heavy enough to have enough momentum to keep on going when the flipper leaves your finger. Sometimes loosening the pivot a bit will free them up enough.
These détente lock folders have been developed because the Chinese are clamping down on knives and locking knives are illegal in many places as are over 4” blades. The first one I know of to have this system was the SanRenMu M1.

From the small booklet included with a lot of SanRenMu knives.

I have several 9054s that flip well with a little wrist flick.
I strip them down and remove all the nasty thick oil that the pivots are lubed with for shipping stone everything flat that needs to be flat and re-lube them.
Then if you want to improve matters some more bend the détente arms slightly to give less pressure, a Digital Micrometer helps to get both arms equal, or you can eyeball them, If they aren’t in the same position as each other then the blade will be off centre. It can take a couple of tries to get is right but it does improve the action a lot.
The less pressure on the détente the less resistance to closing as well, although it is always going to be twice the effort needed to open the blade as there are two holes on one side of the tang and one on the other so one détente is engaged when closed and two when open.

A=détente balls on the end of the détente arms, B= open and closed détente holes with only one on the other side of the tang.

These 9054s are also available as a liner lock from Real Steel, the E77 Flipper, $30 though.

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I haven’t been able to get mine to flip well yet and I’ve had it for months. I even disassembled and polished the internals to see if I could reduce some friction. It helped, but it still requires a lot of wrist to get it to open. Other than that it’s a great pocket knife: crazy sharp and comfortable in the hand.

Edit: Oh lord, putting this knife back together is a nightmare. Still a fun knife, but you have been warned.

Did you by any chance mean the back spacer? Tricky little devil on one of mine. Big Smile

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AUS8 is a decent steel that is identical to 440B and really similar to 8CR13MOV . It does well with a good heat treat. Heat treat can be quite a time consuming (and expensive) process.

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Great chart!

Hadn't seen that one before.

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You’re welcome. Glad it helps!

I believe that different chemistries can perform similarly and that the heat treat is as important as the blade steel.

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Great chart!

Hadn’t seen that one before.

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It is odd that the three alloys on the far right in those graphs have drastically different composition and very similar properties. Maybe there is something left out about the last one, ZDP189/CowryX, as why would it do so well with only iron, carbon and chromium.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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Sorry I was thinking of aus-8A steel, which has vanadium inlaid into it.

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There hasn't been much discussion on this thread yet about DAMASCUS blades.  Some knives with damascus blades also have damascus bolster/scales - those are usually way out of "budget" range.

In the past year, I have had (and still have) a burning love/desire for damascus.  However, since I know that I'll rarely, if ever, use those blades, I fundamentally bought a few "budget" samples to whet my appetite.  Glad I did - I admire them often.

I paid $53.95 USD for the Kershaw Skyline Damascus (claims to use "Alabama Damascus," supposedly a legitimate composition) and $58.88 for the Boker Plus Gent II (2.75" blade, compared to the larger but identical Gent I at 3.25").  The Boker has the added appeal of an ebony handle.

Kershaw Skyline DamascusBoker Plus Gent II  

There may be more budget DAMASCI out there - I would love to hear about them!

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