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I am liking the looks of the ironwood handled knife. Got a link to it?

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Fixed Blade D2 Steel with Micarta handles for $40 shipped

Thought i would throw up this deal for guys in the US
http://www.amazon.com/Knife-King-Handmade-Bushcraft-handle-Razor/dp/B00K...

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DBCstm wrote:
I just ordered this one, couldn’t help myself. Ebony wood handles on a 440 blade, it’s small…only a 2 1/4” blade. But the style is so elegant and it was only $10.40 shipped!

I discovered a site called GP Knives. They have a lot of semi-custom blades from African makers and such. Some gorgeous works and really nice prices. Gonna get a fixed blade of one of those, probably with that desert burl wood, beautiful stuff! I’ve got a “NEED” for a damascus blade. Don’t have one. Must acquire…

Edit: a link to the Ebony Buck mini on Ali Express

I got my Elk Ridge. Very nice. Used it to trim fat off meat. The rivets holding the scales are dead flush, like I used to do with a sharpening stone.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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Nagao Higonokami friction folder was added to my budget collection this week.

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This thread is problematic. I should not have opened it. Omg. Gonna spend a fortune or drive myself crazy trying not to.

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Anyone else use rough rider knives? I am a big fan of the traditional canoe and trapper style knives instead of anything tactical orientated so the rough riders really suit, cheap and incredibly high quality.

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Anyone else use rough rider knives? I am a big fan of the traditional canoe and trapper style knives instead of anything tactical orientated so the rough riders really suit, cheap and incredibly high quality.

I have a few. Smile
They are incredible for the price, the Granddaddy Barlow with saw cut bone scales if fantastic, the large leg knives are truly large and the Stockman with red jigged bone is a bit more expensive it is a superb knife.
I have the “Once in a blue Moon” trapper as well as toothpicks and the knife opener. That is one thing that I can criticise – the backsprings are way too strong on most of them.
I believe that Smoky Mountain Knife Works commissioned them, well good on them they got me back into the traditional style folders again.
There is a Ganzo that is worth considering if you like the traditional style knives, the G725-M Stockman pattern with Krupp 4116 steel.

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Here are three imports from China. Copies of the Hungarian and the Vallotton, and the Elk River fixed blade mentioned elsewhere in this thread.

The Elk River is a beautiful little knife, very shiny. The sheath is… adequate.

The Vallotton is very well made and solid, if I could ping it on one thing the blade would be better running on bronze washers than the nylon/teflon ones it has. The etching on the blade was a little shaky, but that’s about it.

The Hungarian is… I think perfect about sums it up. It feels good in my hand, it came very sharp, and the full flat grind would make it one heck of a slicer. It does have bronze washers and it opens as smooth as glass. It has me contemplating the affordability of the original, it’s that good. The polished G10 feels much better in hand than the bi-directional FRN on my Endura.

I completely agree with that, I have the Vallotton and the Hungarian. The Vallotton might look “dressy” but it is a very strong, almost overbuilt knife well capable of hard use.
The Hungarian is as you describe – perfect. I particularly like the way the linerlock is treated, recessed into the bolster allowing it to disengage and flush enough so it doesn’t dig into your fingers.
The genuine one is £210 in the U.K. the copy cost around £15 an amazingly good knife, to put that into perspective the Spyderco Bug is £14 and the Honeybee is £18, both made in China like the clone.

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I guess budget knife is a relative term. I am far enough along my knife collector journey to have it really bad for the designs of Hinderers, Striders, Medfords as well as the art of custom handle work in the likes of TuffThumbz.

Way too much time spent on Usual Suspects Network forum I suppose.

But at this stage I am not about to drop $500-1200 on a custom knife. So to me, a really well done $75-120 Chinese manufactured Kevin John is a budget knife if it delivers a near experience or close performance.

With that said, I would recommend folks take a look at the earlier designed faux Strider SMF double gunner grip to get that custom feel. Like the Praetorian,..it just feels like quality when you hold it, solid lock up, holds an edge well…and has that nice snap when you open it.

Where can a quality Strider clone like that be bought?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUBDxm4-Qk4

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Speedsix wrote:
KaiserSosa wrote:
I guess budget knife is a relative term. I am far enough along my knife collector journey to have it really bad for the designs of Hinderers, Striders, Medfords as well as the art of custom handle work in the likes of TuffThumbz.

Way too much time spent on Usual Suspects Network forum I suppose.

But at this stage I am not about to drop $500-1200 on a custom knife. So to me, a really well done $75-120 Chinese manufactured Kevin John is a budget knife if it delivers a near experience or close performance.

With that said, I would recommend folks take a look at the earlier designed faux Strider SMF double gunner grip to get that custom feel. Like the Praetorian,..it just feels like quality when you hold it, solid lock up, holds an edge well…and has that nice snap when you open it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUBDxm4-Qk4

Sorry. Where can a quality Strider clone like that be bought?

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Speedsix wrote:
Sorry. Where can a quality Strider clone like that be bought?

Have a look at these:

Strider RC Kevin John version
Strider SNG Kevin John
Strider 7 Kevin John
You should consider the Kevin John versions if you want top quality with top steel.

Strider RC
Strider RC tanto
Strider SNG
Strider tanto
Strider SMF 1
Strider SMF 2
Strider SMF 3
Strider SMF carbon
Strider SMF Ti
Strider Ti 2
Strider G10

As I see my wish list I need more birthdays in a year! Big Smile

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does anyone have any experience with the Enlan Bee M027

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I like mine.

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isti242 wrote:
I like mine.

thank you isti

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Can you recommend a good seller for both the Vallotton and Hungarian?

I see prices ranging from $15.99 and up. Wondering if they’re all form the same manufacturer or if there’s different grades of these.

Thanks!

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does anyone have any experience with the Enlan Bee M027 !{height:400px; width:400px}http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/32317796236_1/Enlan-Bee-M027-Pocket-EDC-Outdoor-Camping-Survival-Tool-Folding-Knife-Blade-Wood-Handle-8Cr13MoV-Blade.jpg!

Good knife, when I first saw it I thought that the photo had been distorted but they really are that shape. the description on FastTech lists the scales as Pakkawood, – sawdust and resin but mine look like rosewood, they polish up really well.
The slightly larger EL-05 is a good one as well just a bit heavy for the size but a capable knife.
The overall look makes them less threatening than black G10 as well which has got to be a bonus.

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pcruz wrote:
Can you recommend a good seller for both the Vallotton and Hungarian?

I see prices ranging from $15.99 and up. Wondering if they’re all form the same manufacturer or if there’s different grades of these.

Thanks!

A good source for the Hungarian.

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pcruz wrote:
Can you recommend a good seller for both the Vallotton and Hungarian?

I see prices ranging from $15.99 and up. Wondering if they’re all form the same manufacturer or if there’s different grades of these.

Thanks!

Hungarian – DIY Knives $20

Vallotton $28, I bought mine from the place above, DIY Knives but they aren’t listing them now, I’ve had a look at some others and can recommend this one, Y-Start Knives, I’ve bought from them several times and had one go missing, started dispute and was refunded in 24Hours, re-ordered the same knife and it turned up no bother.

The prices are up to you, sometimes you get a new store wanting to build the business up and they sell very close to their own cost, as they get more successful the prices creep up.
One little tip I’ve noticed that if you place an item in your wish list and leave it a while, a week say, the price comes down.
AliExpress don’t store your credit card number and using the Escrow system the stores don’t get it anyway. Personally I’ve had no problems buying from them in around 50 orders.

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pcruz wrote:
Can you recommend a good seller for both the Vallotton and Hungarian?

I see prices ranging from $15.99 and up. Wondering if they’re all form the same manufacturer or if there’s different grades of these.

Thanks!

I can’t tell you about these but I can tell you that I bought two U.K. Pen Knife clones, they were bladed objects that looked O.K. and sort of worked but I expected more.
I ordered two more from a different store and couldn’t be more pleased, exactly as they should be. Different manufacturers maybe, different grades definitely.
By the way, the model of UKPK that is for sale on AliExpress is the early G10 scaled model not the plastic handled one in production now, the originals go for over $100, the four of mine cost less than $40 and I have a pair of good quality – not up to Spyderco’s I’m sure – EDC legal knives.

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downlinx wrote:
does anyone have any experience with the Enlan Bee M027
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I like mine, though I haven’t used it.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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mattyts wrote:
Anyone else use rough rider knives? I am a big fan of the traditional canoe and trapper style knives instead of anything tactical orientated so the rough riders really suit, cheap and incredibly high quality.

This is a Rough Rider pearl handled whittler.

It is almost as nice as antique whittlers I have appear to have been when new, but not quite as compact. The overlapping blades don’t quite fill the space as completely. The whittler is a style I like because it is compact. Two springs, each working one small blade and one side of the main blade. Click the picture for full size and zoom in on the spring.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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Regarded purely as a titanium framelock with flipper opening this is a remarkably good knife. The blade is claimed by the vendor to be 9Cr18MoV, which if it has a reasonable heat treatment is a good cutlery steel. It opens very quickly and smoothly on the flipper, and adequately using the traditional thumb hole.

It is that smoothness of opening that caused me to have to send an email to Customs, as a knife that opens this readily can be classed as a flick knife. The Customs agent was kind enough to check for himself and decided that since you can make it not open completely on the flipper it would be passed, but faced with that I think I’ll avoid ordering any more flippers with ball bearing pivots. Brass washers as used in the Enlan and Inron flippers have enough friction that they don’t open without a good flip of the wrist. No CRKT Ripple for me unless I buy it from a local shop who have already dealt with all the law related paperwork.

It locks up securely, but has a little roughness when opening the lock, perhaps something common to titanium framelocks. The handle is very comfortable (as you’d expect) but there’s a slightly sharp tip on the pocket clip when gripping it.

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I have the brown G10 version but 8Cr13MoV steel, $27, steel framelock, ball bearing and flips well. When I bought mine it was the only one I could find listed. Since then there are way more options and price ranges. I’m happy enough with mine, ball bearings, sharp blade and generally a well made knife.
The genitalmen of U.K. customs are lot more stringent in their rulings, if they notice that a knife has a flipper they automatically call it a gravity knife and away it goes.
A lot get through as the volume of post from China is massive, too much obviously to check every parcel. One reason I only ever put one knife per order. I only lose one knife if the parcel gets inspected.
My jaw hit the floor when they opened re-packed and sent on my Medford Praetorian clone!!

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Freman wrote:

Regarded purely as a titanium framelock with flipper opening this is a remarkably good knife. The blade is claimed by the vendor to be 9Cr18MoV, which if it has a reasonable heat treatment is a good cutlery steel. It opens very quickly and smoothly on the flipper, and adequately using the traditional thumb hole.

It is that smoothness of opening that caused me to have to send an email to Customs, as a knife that opens this readily can be classed as a flick knife. The Customs agent was kind enough to check for himself and decided that since you can make it not open completely on the flipper it would be passed, but faced with that I think I’ll avoid ordering any more flippers with ball bearing pivots. Brass washers as used in the Enlan and Inron flippers have enough friction that they don’t open without a good flip of the wrist. No CRKT Ripple for me unless I buy it from a local shop who have already dealt with all the law related paperwork.

It locks up securely, but has a little roughness when opening the lock, perhaps something common to titanium framelocks. The handle is very comfortable (as you’d expect) but there’s a slightly sharp tip on the pocket clip when gripping it.

The roughness is probably a combination of the surface texture of the lock and mating surface, and Ti’s tendency to be a bit gummy (like aluminum), meaning instead of sliding over the hills and valleys it sticks a bit. You’ll notice some high end ti framelocks use a hardened steel insert to eliminate this problem.

Bronze (not brass) washers are capable of very low friction when they are properly sized, parallel, and have a high grit finish and the blade has a similar high grit finish and parallel sides. The very first knife I made was an automatic with phosphor bronze washers. After busting 2 springs because of them being overworked I left the spring out(that fires it open). If I hold the knife horizontally and push the release mechanism the blade will drop from open to 90° down just from the weight of the blade.

If your blade gets too easy to move as the washers and blade bed in, all you have to do is tighten the pivot and it’ll bind up again. Obviously the only people worried about this are the ones who live in places where gravity knives are illegal.

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Lansky LKN333
anyone have experience with the knife?
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Kloepper Knife Works wrote:
The roughness is probably a combination of the surface texture of the lock and mating surface, and Ti’s tendency to be a bit gummy (like aluminum), meaning instead of sliding over the hills and valleys it sticks a bit. You’ll notice some high end ti framelocks use a hardened steel insert to eliminate this problem.

Bronze (not brass) washers are capable of very low friction when they are properly sized, parallel, and have a high grit finish and the blade has a similar high grit finish and parallel sides. The very first knife I made was an automatic with phosphor bronze washers. After busting 2 springs because of them being overworked I left the spring out(that fires it open). If I hold the knife horizontally and push the release mechanism the blade will drop from open to 90° down just from the weight of the blade.

If your blade gets too easy to move as the washers and blade bed in, all you have to do is tighten the pivot and it’ll bind up again. Obviously the only people worried about this are the ones who live in places where gravity knives are illegal.

Yes, I have an Enlan EL01 that after much lubrication and practice can be flipped without any wrist action. My only concern is getting them past Customs which is populated by non-knife-enthusiasts enforcing laws written by people who think a switchblade is “scary”. On the other hand I was in one of those mass Chinese import shops yesterday, and low and behold a push button automatic in their knife display counter.

That’s the advantage of importing stuff by the containerload. Customs can’t check everything.

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Lansky LKN333 anyone have experience with the knife? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IJ93WW2/ref=s9_wish_co_d23_g200_i2 !{height:400px; width:400px}http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/718jIImDvIL.SL1500.jpg!

Yes, mine was probably the worst knife I have ever had, gritty stiff, over strong backspring, vicious snap from open to the half stop and you have to put so much pressure on the blade to close it your hand is likely to be in the way.
I really should have sent it back but I thought I could fix it, easy enough to take apart – the backspring was so poorly machined that only one side was touching the tang of the knife causing galling and the grittyness. I won’t be repairing it yet because I don’t want the mess of my dremel ru…………Oh hell tell the truth the knife doesn’t warrant the cost of the tooling to repair it.
Some really nice touches like the four way pocket clip, then it’s let down by being held by one screw, a flat screwdriver type, all the rest of the screws are Allen head.

Don’t let my POS deter you, I’m sure I just got a bad one. Four and a half stars out of five on Amazon and most other reviews liked them.

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The Enlan Bee EM01 is my favorite EDC knife ever. I like the size and the design fits my eye perfectly. Not the absolute best steel, but it’s not hard to get is shaving sharp, or difficult to keep it that way!

I’ve given a couple away as gifts too!

[quote=boxsurly]I’m waiting for these

Enlan Bee EM01

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I had great experience with EL01S and figured I would have been satisfied by EM01 too, but upon receiving a couple of those I found them to be much too small for my taste. I cannot operate such a small knife properly, so those will be gifted to less of a knife-snob folks.

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There’s nothing wrong with the EM01, reasonable steel that Enlan knows how to heat treat and a good size for many people.
I bought one a while back to pair it with an EL-01 that I was going to re-scale with Kirinite, only a photoshop for now unfortunately.

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