Brightest LED flashlight for $20-$25

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Thanks for all the feedback! You all have been very helpful. Still a little confused with all the possibilities but you have all helped me narrow down my search.

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gherrmann19 wrote:
Thanks for all the feedback! You all have been very helpful. Still a little confused with all the possibilities but you have all helped me narrow down my search.

The good thing is, you can buy a couple as they are all so affordable. That way see what you like and what works well for which situations.
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One more questions. Does SMO mean the smooth reflector?

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gherrmann19 wrote:
One more questions. Does SMO mean the smooth reflector?

Yes, and “OP” means orange peel reflector

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So I am looking at the one in the link below. the one that is XML2 T6-4C that does not have SMO next to it. I would figure that would be the OP but it does not state that. Thoughts?

http://www.banggood.com/Convoy-C8-AK47-71358-8-Modes-white-light-LED-Fla...

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I would assume so. You can always contact BG and ask.

Just so you’re aware, the BG version is only 5-modes. The Fasttech version allows you to switch from 5-modes to 3-modes if you prefer no blinkies. (Fasttech is also $0.50 cheaper)

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Do you think the difference in the LED available between the 2 will make much of a difference? Does the XML T6-3C differ much from the XML2 T6-4C as far as light output? Thanks for helping me on this!

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Xml2 is 15ish% brighter, don’t think you’ll notice it with your eyes. Some of the fastech do come with xml2 instead oft xml thoug.

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Yeah fasttech doesn’t always update their listings

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gherrmann19 wrote:
So I am looking at the one in the link below. the one that is XML2 T6-4C that does not have SMO next to it. I would figure that would be the OP but it does not state that. Thoughts?

http://www.banggood.com/Convoy-C8-AK47-71358-8-Modes-white-light-LED-Fla...


The picture at that link shows a smooth reflector. I would then assume it’s smooth, not OP. But, as pilotdog68 has said, you should call Bang-good and ask them if you want to know for sure.

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DavidEF wrote:
The picture at that link shows a smooth reflector. I would then assume it’s smooth, not OP.
The pic shows only SMO. The picture does not change when you select OP. But as you said better to confirm with BG.
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I would go for XM-L2 over and XM-L. There is enough difference that you could notice it IMO. And the XM-L2 being newer is also more efficient.

Nothing wrong with the XM-L. But given the choice and for approx the same money, go with the latest emitter.

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If you’re interested in a Convoy C8, you should get it directly from Simon at Convoy. I don’t know his email address, but he goes by “convoy-flashlight” here. The ones he sells come with a SMO reflector and you can choose the tint for the XM-L2 and current for the driver.

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I would go for XM-L2 over and XM-L. There is enough difference that you could notice it IMO. And the XM-L2 being newer is also more efficient.

Nothing wrong with the XM-L. But given the choice and for approx the same money, go with the latest emitter.


I would agree, but there is a chance that if you order from Fasttech you may actually get an XML2 even if their description doesn’t say it. Also, I would take an XML with Fasttech’s driver over an XML2 with Banggood’s driver. I hate blinkies.

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As posted above ^^^ Simon is a great source as well.

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I sent an email to FT about being able to source it with a different LED than advertised.

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pilotdog68 wrote:
Just so you’re aware, the BG version is only 5-modes.

This isn’t true. At least not from my experience. I recently purchased both an S2+ and a C8 from BG and both were able to switch from 5-mode to 3-mode. I hate blinkies so that was the first thing I did after receiving them. I just swapped the drivers last night so I can’t go back and check but I swear that I switched mode groups on both of them.

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Hmm well that’s great if it’s true, Banggood just failed to mention that in the description.

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I think this Zoomie is just about the best deal going in my opinion. I had 3 and gave two away to friends.

I think it is a must have. Also is bright! Lots of information on here about them also.

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Still like the idea of buying two generic Ultrafire C8, if one breaks, it gives you an excuse to customize/modernist it with better parts.
If they do not break, then you still have a good value.

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Do NOT buy batteries from FastTech unless you want to receive them 60-90 days down the road.

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Still like the idea of buying two generic Ultrafire C8, if one breaks, it gives you an excuse to customize/modernist it with better parts. If they do not break, then you still have a good value.

Buy the best and do not worry about breakage. The lack of LVP alone makes those cheapies not worthwhile and many have XPE emitters.

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Just fyi, fasttech has a new expedited shipping option for batteries

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Tacoboy wrote:
Still like the idea of buying two generic Ultrafire C8, if one breaks, it gives you an excuse to customize/modernist it with better parts.
If they do not break, then you still have a good value.

If there was a big price difference, then yes. But the truth is, the Convoy’s hardly cost anything more. And with them you get good anodising, fit & finish and good threads. All things you can’t “mod” on a crappy light.

Sure some of the Ultrafire C8’s are ok, but none will likely be as nice as a Convoy C8.

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apt323 wrote:
I think this Zoomie is just about the best deal going in my opinion. I had 3 and gave two away to friends. I think it is a must have. Also is bright! Lots of information on here about them also. "Zeusray":https://www.dealmetic.com/product.asp?ID=FL05518[/quote]

2000 lumens is obviously bogus. I dislike supporting sellers that lie about their products, even if it is very common practice.

A C8 is good advice. You can easily craft a diffusor from a white opaque plastic bottle and turn it into a great lantern. Or just bounce the beam on a white surface.

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Take any claim with a pinch of salt, it’s not as if people like JetBEAM have always been completely honest.

The Zuesray has a good reputation on here and is a fantastic light for $7.99 including shipping. So good, that vinh over at CPF will sell you a Zeusray for $70!!!!

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Chicken Drumstick wrote:
The Zuesray has a good reputation on here…

“Had” a good reputation. As far as I know, it hasn’t been confirmed that they have started selling Zuesray lights that aren’t defective some way or another.

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