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Has anyone got any of these to play with:

Cree XP-L HI T5 7C1 Warm White 3000K High CRI90


That is pretty cool. Quite LOL literally, because you know 3000K is actually a cool temperature, while ≈5700+K is actually warm. 


Just sent a private message to djozz, let’s see if he would like to test such emitter.


Looks like you already got to play with it, 1stein. Wink 

I found one old answer from djozz in one thread:
“I must have posted it somewhere a few months ago, what I recall the tint is not nice, yellow and I measured it well above the BBL. “

Still couldnt find that test post so gotta see whats what. If I dont like it then I will probably go for Osram white flat and see what the fuss is all about.

Got my 5000k cri90 LH351D today. Ordered it at 24.2 so kinda normal delivery time. Still waiting some parts and its time to update my HC30.

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I tested a bunch of Kaidomain emitters on P60 pills using the Texas Ace Lumen Tube calibrated with Maukka lights and a Sekonic C-800-U spectrometer. Output taken at 2s from turn on.

Kdlitker XPL2 3000K V4 7A reflector P60 Mid 236 lumens 3144K -0.0031 DUV 72.5 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.73 -23.0 R9 48.7 R12 67 Rf 99 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker XPL2 3000K V4 7A reflector P60 no lens Mid 259 lumens 3184K -0.0046 DUV 73.0 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.80 -20.2 R9 50.0 R12 66 Rf 100 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker XPL2 3000K V4 7A reflector P60 Highest 662 lumens 3179K -0.0040 DUV 72.6 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.77 -22.1 R9 49.1 R12 67 Rf 100 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker XPL2 3000K V4 7A reflector P60 no lens Highest 728 lumens 3233K -0.0043 DUV 72.8 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.79 -21.0 R9 49.6 R12 67 Rf 100 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker XPL2 3000K U6 7A CRI80 reflector P60 no lens low 24 lumens 3078K -0.0013 DUV 83.2 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.59 17.2 R9 70.2 R12 80 Rf 101 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX22
Kdlitker XPL2 3000K U6 7A CRI80 reflector P60 no lens mid 228 lumens 3156K 0.0003 DUV 82.8 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.59 15.4 R9 68.5 R12 80 Rf 101 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX23
Kdlitker XPL2 3000K U6 7A CRI80 reflector P60 no lens Highest 623 lumens 3268K -0.0029 DUV 83.2 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.67 18.4 R9 70.6 R12 79 Rf 102 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX24
Kdlitker 3x XPL HI 3000K T5 7C1 CRI90 P60 no lens Low 82 lumens 2976K 0.0022 DUV 94.0 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.42 65.9 R9 79.9 R12 91 Rf 98 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX19
Kdlitker 3x XPL HI 3000K T5 7C1 CRI90 P60 no lens Mid 371 lumens 3034K 0.0024 DUV 93.2 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.43 62.7 R9 78.8 R12 91 Rf 98 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX20
Kdlitker 3x XPL HI 3000K T5 7C1 CRI90 P60 no lens Highest 948 lumens 3100K 0.0029 DUV 92.0 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.43 57.8 R9 77.3 R12 91 Rf 98 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX21
Kdlitker 3x 219C 4000K D240 CRI92 P60 no lens low 24 lumens 3713K -0.0007 DUV 94.3 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.92 74.0 R9 71.6 R12 89 Rf 98 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX25
Kdlitker 3x 219C 4000K D240 CRI92 P60 no lens M1 106 lumens 3753K 0.0015 DUV 93.4 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.87 69.7 R9 70.4 R12 89 Rf 97 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX26
Kdlitker 3x 219C 4000K D240 CRI92 P60 no lens M2 390 lumens 3765K 0.0020 DUV 92.6 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.84 65.7 R9 70.6 R12 89 Rf 98 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX27
Kdlitker 3x 219C 4000K D240 CRI92 P60 no lens Highest 946 lumens 3800K 0.0030 DUV 91.4 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.80 60.2 R9 70.7 R12 89 Rf 98 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX28
Kdlitker 3x XPE-HEW 3000K Q3 7A2 CRI92 P60 no lens low 28 lumens 3215K -0.0017 DUV 90.9 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.58 61.1 R9 76.1 R12 89 Rf 101 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX29
Kdlitker 3x XPE-HEW 3000K Q3 7A2 CRI92 P60 no lens mid 150 lumens 3302K 0.0009 DUV 89.9 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.58 56.3 R9 72.9 R12 89 Rf 100 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX30
Kdlitker 3x XPE-HEW 3000K Q3 7A2 CRI92 P60 no lens Highest 468 lumens 3326K 0.0001 DUV 89.6 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.59 55.4 R9 73.4 R12 88 Rf 100 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX31
Kdlitker SST-20 3000K J3 HD2 reflector P60 no lens low 17 lumens 3165K -0.0017 DUV 95.4 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.53 87.4 R9 87.1 R12 92 Rf 104 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX32
Kdlitker SST-20 3000K J3 HD2 reflector P60 no lens mid 155 lumens 3138K -0.0015 DUV 94.6 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.50 82.7 R9 86.3 R12 91 Rf 104 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX33
Kdlitker SST-20 3000K J3 HD2 reflector P60 no lens Highest 419 lumens 3069K -0.0031 DUV 95.1 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.48 82.4 R9 88.6 R12 91 Rf 105 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX34
Kdlitker 3x XP-G3 8A3 2700K P60 no lens low 55 lumens 3104K -0.0011 DUV 74.0 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.63 -20.9 R9 49.7 R12 72 Rf 98 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX35
Kdlitker 3x XP-G3 8A3 2700K P60 no lens mid 273 lumens 3200K -0.0025 DUV 74.7 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.69 -17.8 R9 51.4 R12 72 Rf 98 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX36
Kdlitker 3x XP-G3 8A3 2700K P60 no lens Highest 895 lumens 3215K -0.0027 DUV 74.6 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.69 -18.0 R9 51.2 R12 72 Rf 98 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX37
Kdlitker 3x SST-20 3000K J3 HD2 P60 no lens low 42 lumens 2968K -0.0018 DUV 95.5 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.42 87.2 R9 88.6 R12 91 Rf 105 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX38
Kdlitker 3x SST-20 3000K J3 HD2 P60 no lens mid 211 lumens 3013K -0.0014 DUV 94.9 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 85.20 85.2 R9 87.3 R12 91 Rf 105 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX39
Kdlitker 3x SST-20 3000K J3 HD2 P60 no lens Highest 674 lumens 2960K -0.0022 DUV 95.0 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.43 83.9 R9 88.4 R12 90 Rf 105 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX40


These tested pretty accurate in terms of tint bin and CRI. But it's also possible that you might be getting something worst than what you want. I ordered a XML2 two years ago that was supposed to be 7A3 bin (which means rosy tint) but it ended up being far above the BBL with yellow/green tint. 

It would be nice if Kaidomain can test one emitter from each batch to ensure they are getting accurately labelled bins from their suppliers. Though I know it is difficult and time consuming to do but there are cheap $200 equipment that some people on BLF have used in-lieu of a spectrometer. 

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Kdlitker 3xSST-20 3000K J3 HD2 P60 no lens low 55 lumens 3104K -0.0011 DUV 74.0 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.63 -20.9 R9 49.7 R12 72 Rf 98 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX35 Kdlitker 3xSST-20 3000K J3 HD2 P60 no lens mid 273 lumens 3200K -0.0025 DUV 74.7 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.69 -17.8 R9 51.4 R12 72 Rf 98 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX36 Kdlitker 3xSST-20 3000K J3 HD2 P60 no lens Highest 895 lumens 3215K -0.0027 DUV 74.6 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.69 -18.0 R9 51.2 R12 72 Rf 98 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX37 Kdlitker 3xXP-G3 8A3 2700K P60 no lens low 42 lumens 2968K -0.0018 DUV 95.5 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.42 87.2 R9 88.6 R12 91 Rf 105 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX38 Kdlitker 3xXP-G3 8A3 2700K P60 no lens mid 211 lumens 3013K -0.0014 DUV 94.9 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 85.20 85.2 R9 87.3 R12 91 Rf 105 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX39 Kdlitker 3xXP-G3 8A3 2700K P60 no lens Highest 674 lumens 2960K -0.0022 DUV 95.0 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.43 83.9 R9 88.4 R12 90 Rf 105 Rg 2xVTC6 in K

Are you sure these two didn’t get mixed up somehow? I find it hard to believe a CREE hitting 95CRI and SST20 3000K at 74…

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Crap you are right!!! I looked under the optic and it’s actually the SST-20 3000K! It got swapped around with the XP-G3’s container. I edited my post above to correct the error.

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I got a shipped notice today for my order from mid January …

And today the order arrived Smile
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SKV89, I guess the “3xXPL-HI” entries in your above table have a typo, they should read “Kdlitker 3x XPL HI 3000K T5 7C1 CRI90 P60 no lens”. I would also separate de 3x term or element from all emitter names, looks better and cleaner.

Nice information, thanks.

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I got my order today as well,ordered 4/2/20,not bad.

The package was opened then taped back up with a green sticker;“examined by homeland security”

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Barkuti wrote:

SKV89, I guess the “3xXPL-HI” entries in your above table have a typo, they should read “Kdlitker 3x XPL HI 3000K T5 7C1 CRI90 P60 no lens”. I would also separate de 3x term or element from all emitter names, looks better and cleaner.


Nice information, thanks.

Thank. Fixed.

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That is pretty cool. Quite LOL literally, because you know 3000K is actually a cool temperature, while ≈5700+K is actually warm. 

Ermm… either i’m missing the joke or you have warm and cool mixed up here? Or i have warm and cool mixed up… (I’m hoping i’m missing the joke Big Smile )
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Well Marc E, CCT wise lower kelvin temperatures (cool temperatures) correspond to “warm white” light sources, while higher kelvin temperatures (warmer temperatures) correspond to “cool white” light sources. You can read the color temperature article in Wikipedia.

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A few questions for BanL.

 

The K6 flashlight host looks different between your site and your AliExpress store listings:

 

http://kaidomain.com/DIY-K6-LED-Flashlight-Host-175mm-x-64mm-Black

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32845429347.html

 

Besides the knurling, bezel and tailcap, dimensions are also a little bit different. 

So what are the correct photographs/pictures of the host?

 

Furthermore, in the site the reflector hole is listed as being ∅9 mm. Looking at the following AE article description picture,

 

 

I see the reflector matches the below one in the site:

 

http://kaidomain.com/S021807-57_8mm-D-x-55mm-H-SMO-Aluminum-Reflector

 

This reflector has a ∅12.3 mm hole so, what's the deal?

Thanks. 

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Barkuti wrote:

Well Marc E, CCT wise lower kelvin temperatures (cool temperatures) correspond to “warm white” light sources, while higher kelvin temperatures (warmer temperatures) correspond to “cool white” light sources. You can read the color temperature article in Wikipedia.

Aha, of course! I’m so focused on colour temp when i’m on here i forgot Kelvin is an actual temperature unit! Thanks for the reminder Big Smile
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BanL, what about ∅9 mm reflector hole Osram 3030 gaskets? Can you source them? A suitable gasket for your K6 host I spoke about, let's say. A CSLPM1.TG emitter inside a K6 should make a very throwy torch. 

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Barkuti wrote:

BanL, what about ∅9 mm reflector hole Osram 3030 gaskets? Can you source them? A suitable gasket for your K6 host I spoke about, let’s say. A CSLPM1.TG emitter inside a K6 should make a very throwy torch. 

Hi Barkuti

We don’t get 9mm reflector that is used on 3030 LED.

I will go to test the beam and make the gasket.

Thank you

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BanL wrote:
Barkuti wrote:

BanL, what about ∅9 mm reflector hole Osram 3030 gaskets? Can you source them? A suitable gasket for your K6 host I spoke about, let’s say. A CSLPM1.TG emitter inside a K6 should make a very throwy torch. 

Hi Barkuti

We don’t get 9mm reflector that is used on 3030 LED.

I will go to test the beam and make the gasket.

Thank you

Ban

I am interested in those gasket.

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I will go to test the beam and make the gasket. Thank you Ban

I would need them as well. If possible to make gaskets for narrower reflector openings also that would be great

 

 

 

WTB Titanium 4sevens 2xAA tube

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BanL already offers gaskets for 3030 leds and ∅7 mm reflector opening:

http://kaidomain.com/Flashlight-DIY-and-Tools/Misc-Parts/S028499-10mm-x-0_8mm-White-Plastic-Insulation-Gaskets-for-Osram-3030-Series-LED-5pcs

Given how item information is presented in KD's page, where only a part of the description is shown under the item's picture (see miscellaneous parts, for example), it would be a lot more useful to list gaskets using a different description format. People looking for gaskets mainly look for “a emitter size and/or type gasket for reflector hole diameter”, and so this information should be at the beginning of every gasket description, in my opinion. Item descriptions seem to be limited to 50 useful characters, I have just checked and any long item descriptions measures exactly 52 characters long, including two dots at the end. This way, the description of the above gaskets, which right now looks like

10mm(D) x 0.8mm(T) White Plastic Insulation Gasket..

would, for example, instead say

3030 Osram gaskets for 7mm reflector hole, 10mm(D)..

It is a lot faster to find suitable gaskets this way, and this translates into a better shopping experience in my honest opinion.  The character  set in the descriptions, though, has something to do with AliExpress.

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KD has a global 10% off deal code “mar” valid till the end of March.

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Good point Barkuti.

Search and description on KD is not friendly

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A thing to point out for BanL, is that Simon Mao (from the Convoy store) has ∅9 mm gaskets for 3030 emitters listed in his shop: Gasket suitable for 3030 LED and 9mm reflector hole. Simon may also be interested in ∅7 mm gaskets for 3030 emitters.

Message to be removed if BanL doesn't likes it. Innocent

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Barkuti wrote:

BanL already offers gaskets for 3030 leds and ∅7 mm reflector opening:


http://kaidomain.com/Flashlight-DIY-and-Tools/Misc-Parts/S028499-10mm-x-0_8mm-White-Plastic-Insulation-Gaskets-for-Osram-3030-Series-LED-5pcs


Given how item information is presented in KD’s page, where only a part of the description is shown under the item’s picture (see miscellaneous parts, for example), it would be a lot more useful to list gaskets using a different description format. People looking for gaskets mainly look for “a emitter size and/or type gasket for reflector hole diameter”, and so this information should be at the beginning of every gasket description, in my opinion. Item descriptions seem to be limited to 50 useful characters, I have just checked and any long item descriptions measures exactly 52 characters long, including two dots at the end. This way, the description of the above gaskets, which right now looks like


10mm(D) x 0.8mm(T) White Plastic Insulation Gasket..


would, for example, instead say


3030 Osram gaskets for 7mm reflector hole, 10mm(D)..


It is a lot faster to find suitable gaskets this way, and this translates into a better shopping experience in my honest opinion.  The character  set in the descriptions, though, has something to do with AliExpress.


Mon, 03/30/2020 – 15:49

Sure.

I will improve those keywords on the KD system.

Thank you for your advice.

I really enjoy all of you guys to give me the hints on making everything in an user friendly way.

Thank you

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Crap you are right!!! I looked under the optic and it’s actually the SST-20 3000K! It got swapped around with the XP-G3’s container. I edited my post above to correct the error.

What you think about tint qualithy of the XP-G3 8A3 compared to sst20 3000k
Thought 8A was around 2800k instead of 3200k on your measures
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I put them away already but from what I remember the XP-G3 has a more noticeable corona and tint shift so I think I recall the SST-20 looks better.

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I put them away already but from what I remember the XP-G3 has a more noticeable corona and tint shift so I think I recall the SST-20 looks better.

Hope xpg3 still rosy and not greenish at low current
I See that sst20 hd2 was old stock,now are in hb4,so tint less good?
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I See that sst20 hd2 was old stock,now are in hb4,so tint less good?

Wellp, I see people often complains about this tint preference thing, and over time I've come to conclude that it really doesn't bothers me much. I prefer close to BBL tints, and certainly don't complain at all seeing the light from my LH351D 4000K CRI90+ flashlights which technically is slightly greenish.

My advice is try one, what can I say. Innocent

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Quick question here, not exactly because I am interested right now but anyway I think it is good to be known. I saw an S3 21700 host available at Kaidomain some days ago. As options to choose from are orange peel or smooth reflector, and body colors in black, desert sand and purple. Would love to see photographs of the latter two. 

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Barkuti wrote:

Sari33 wrote:

I See that sst20 hd2 was old stock,now are in hb4,so tint less good?

Wellp, I see people often complains about this tint preference thing, and over time I’ve come to conclude that it really doesn’t bothers me much. I prefer close to BBL tints, and certainly don’t complain at all seeing the light from my LH351D 4000K CRI90+ flashlights which technically is slightly greenish.


My advice is try one, what can I say. Innocent

HB4 is above the BBL so the DUV is positive.

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Barkuti wrote:

Quick question here, not exactly because I am interested right now but anyway I think it is good to be known. I saw an S3 21700 host available at Kaidomain some days ago. As options to choose from are orange peel or smooth reflector, and body colors in black, desert sand and purple. Would love to see photographs of the latter two. 

Hi

I had posted the photo of three different color.

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Nice! The S3 looks like a great host for gifting lights to “advanced muggles”, aka non-flashoholic but technically competent recipients. Looks like SS bezel and integrated shelf?

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