Review: Acebeam K60 (1 x XHP70 | 4 x 18650)

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Review: Acebeam K60 (1 x XHP70 | 4 x 18650)

Acebeam K60 (1 x XHP70 | 4 x 18650)

This flashlight was provided for review by Acebeam

Reviewer's Overall Rating: ★★★★★

 

Summary:

Battery: 4 x 18650
Switch: Tail switch (forward clicky) and Magnetic control ring
Modes: 7: 6 brightness modes & Strobe
LED Type: XHP70 (CW, bin not specified, about 6000K) 
Lens: Glass, AR coated
Tailstands: Yes
Price Payed: Review sample (current retail price $179)
From: Acebeam
Date Ordered: April 2015

 

Pros:

  • Bright! And I mean BRIGHT!!
  • Good UI
    • Magnetic control ring with six modes, Standby mode, and Cruel Strobe (conveniently at the other end of the magnetic control ring for quick access)
    • Forward clicky tail switch
  • Automatic step down at 3min to prevent overheating
  • Features state of the art XHP70 emitter, driven hard! No modding / current boost needed, ready to use!
  • Gets hot quickly on Turbo mode (= driven hard, good thermal transfer)
  • Near perfect regulation
  • Ok runtime on highest mode, good on other modes.
  • Good thermal characteristics
  • Low mode is low enough! (about 1lm!)
  • All modes are Current Controlled -> No PWM
  • Nice tint (for CW) - not even a hint of green, not too cold either
  • Great design & build quality
    • Good anodizing
    • AR coated lens
  • No-nonsense design: No in-light charging, non-complicated battery holder, keep it simple: Safer and more reliable, allowing you to enjoy this light for years.
  • Throws well (with pure power!)
  • Not too heavy for the size (& power)
  • Comes in a nice box, great for gifting!
  • Good operating instructions included (in English!)
  • Did I mention that it's bright? Like 5000lm OTF bright. Cool
  • Think of X60 power in smaller & lighter, belt-holsterable form! (and significantly more affordable too!)

Cons:

  • Gets hot quickly on Turbo mode (= don't leave it running on Turbo unattended!)
  • Not available as NW

Features / Value: ★★★★

The light comes in a nice cardboard case: [Not as nice as their earlier aluminum cases, but "good enough" and allows lower pricing]

 

It's nice to have the strategic info on the box, and the fact that the Manufacturer is telling the true numbers is even nicer.

 

Inside the case you can find the light and accessories. All well packed inside foam padding - making it practically impossible to break the light during shipping (even if Finnish post tries hard :)):

 

In the box are: Nice half-covering holster, lanyard, user manual (in plain English!), warranty card (24months), and the light itself.

 

 

The light itself features a big head (88mm diameter) with one state of the art XHP70 CW emitter, clear AR-coated glass lens, and LOP reflector:

 

Features are very good: All modes are current regulated, without PWM. Strobe mode is there if needed, conveniently placed to the end of magnetic control ring movement -> doesn't bother in normal usage, but is quickly accessible if/when needed.

Unlike some other Acebeam models, this light doesn't provide in-light charging or highly sophisticated battery carrier. I consider that as a good thing, making the light safer and more reliable.


UI is very good: 

- tailcap has a main switch, which is forward clicky, allowing momentary on
- between the head and body, in a convenient place, there is a magnetic control ring:
    - on the leftmost end, there's a nice low mode of about 1lm
    - turning the ring right over the first notch brings up the second mode of about 50lm, followed by 850lm, 1950lm, 3750lm, and 5000lm 


    - turning the ring right further allows to temporarily turn off the light (Standby) without moving hand to the tail switch [Nice! Acebeam listened to us. That was one of my complaints in the X60 review]
    - turning right over the standby mode brings up the strobe, which is very cruel, bright and disorienting (just think of 5000lm / 150kcd strobing towards your eyes!)

 

Highest (Turbo) mode has an automatic step-down feature: After 3min on, the light steps down to about 3500-4000lm to prevent overheating. If you would like to continue with maximum brightness, just turn the light off and on again(from the tail switch).

The light can be locked out by unscrewing the body tube for about half a turn. This prevents the light from accidentally turning on when transported in bag or something.

 

Value for money: Very Good!

 

Design / Build Quality: ★★★

Design is very nice and functional. Even though the head is large, the whole light is surprisingly light at 783g (ready to use). Bezel is lightly scalloped, allowing to see if the light was left on by mistake, but not being too aggressive. 

Glass is fairly thick (2.5mm) and AR coated:

 

Head has a lot of pretty deep cooling fins, which are very necessary when pushing out so many lumens.

 

Let's see some other details..

Body has a smooth and nice anodizing. Knurling is good, making the light feel good in hand without being slippery at all.

 

Emitter is well centered, as seen in this shot taken when light was in low (1lm) mode:

  

Here's a shot when light is turned off, showing the reflector quality. Reflector has light orange peel finish and it is totally flawless and beautiful:

 

The tail cap features a forward clicky main switch. Other side of the tail has a cutout, allowing easier access to the switch:  


The cutout also allows the light to tail stand stably even with the lanyard on:


Threads of the body tube are anodized, square, well lubed and of good quality:


Threads may look deformed in the above photo, but that's only because of the generous amount of oily lube. So generous that I managed to stain my photo backdrop with it: Undecided

Here the opposite part of those threads (in head). Nice and smooth. Note the amount of lube also here. I would suggest cleaning it away and replacing with thicker silicone lube. [I had accidentally left the light on highest mode and tailcap switch on when screwing in the body tube: The oily lube is conductive and started to make crackling sound when the current went through it..]

The spring is thick and works well with the high current and voltage needed for 5000 lumens:


Battery holder is 4S and follows same no-nonsense or KISS principle: It can even be inserted either way around:

 

Tailcap has two sturdy springs and the PCB is well secured with two screws.

 

Opening the screws allows us to see the other side of the switch:

 

Also the tailcap threads are square cut. There's no lube in these, as this side of the light shouldn't be opened in normal use.

 

Continuing to open the head: The driver is not accessible because of screws covered with strong glue:

 

So here are the parts normal user should ever open in this light: Head, battery carrier, and body tube. Nice and easy, isn't it? Cool

 

Wait, did you really think I would leave the head intact? Laughing

Tinkered with the screws a while, removed the glue, and now: Continuing to open the head.

 

This side of the driver looks pretty simple:

 

..but the other side is full of action: (note also the thick silicone wires)

 

Under the driver we can see that this light uses unibody design, which is good for thermal transfer. Emitter sits on a DTP copper star, which sits on top of the thick enough shelf (which is integral part of the head). Tip of the screw tells us that the emitter is tightened to the shelf by two screws (and thermal paste in between).

 

The reflector is surrounded by a thick O-ring, pressed down by lens and bezel. A well water tight solution.

Here's the business side torn apart:

 

Glimpse to the emitter. (what a beauty!) Note also the centering ring with a ridge thin enough not to cut significant amount of light.

 

Reflector is roughly 82mm x 66mm, and made of aluminum:

 

Lens is a bit larger, covering also the O-ring around the reflector:

 

 

Some measurements:
Length: 206mm
Head diameter: 88mm
Body diameter: 48.0mm
Tail diameter: 52.0mm
Lens diameter: 83.9mm
Lens thickness: 2.5mm
Reflector diameter: 82.0mm
Reflector depth: 66.5mm

Weight:
- 599g without cells
- 783g with 4 x 18650 cells (= ready to use)
- 796g with 4 x 18650 cells and lanyard (= ready to use) 


Compared to other lights:


In hand:


Both tail switch and control ring are accessible with one hand:


Included half-covering holster was a positive surprise to me. Light hangs there very well and the smaller size when light is out of the holster is a plus!

Upper part has a plastic loop for attachment:


..or you can simply hang it up to your belt with well gripping velcro:


Also the front side has large enough patch of that same good velcro:


Material feels good and durable:


All in all, big thumbs up to this holster!


 

And the bottom line in the quality: Acebeam is known of good quality lights and this one continues on the same level, if not above. Well done!

 

Battery Life: ★★★★

Good!

Measured runtime on Turbo/high with a fresh* set of 3400mAh KeepPowers was 56min to 50%. [* 1st discharge -> maybe bit less than full capacity]

And, as this light has lots of power, and it features good brightness levels, the user can always use the correct amount of light => best possible runtime for each use case! (Up to 2000h, based on manufacturer's rating)

 

Light Output: ★★★★★

Runtime graph:

This runtime test was performed indoors, with ambient temperature of 25°C, cooled with a small table fan on lowest setting. This light seems to be well regulated and handles the heat pretty well. Maximum temperature measured was 62°C, but medium wind or just holding the light in hand will keep the temperature low enough for the full runtime.

This light has a low voltage warning, so at 46min it started showing 3 blinks every 15s. After stepping down it continued with about 1lm over the 2h mark, with batteries at 3.05V at that time. That should guarantee that you can always get back from your hike. (A spare light is still recommended LOL

 

What would happen if I would reset the light after the step down kicks in? Let's try: 3minutes turbo, 2min stepped down, and repeat:

Very nice, no surprises here.


What if the light doesn't get *any* cooling? Let's try:

Well. You guessed it! A quite small, high driven XHP70 light will get hot. Smile Temperature in hottest part of the light (near the control ring: between emitter and driver) did go up to 71°C in only 10 minutes, and the whole light was pretty hot at that time. So hot that I wouldn't leave it alone running on high, at least not when indoors (or outdoors without even a light breeze).

Is this bad? Well.. Yes and no. This light is a hot rod and should be handled like one. Lower modes will provide enough lumens and throw for most situations. Use them if the absolute full blast is not needed. On the other hand, keeping the light in hand will help to keep the temperature down.

I have always said that and someone might wonder if that's true. Ok, let's try it!

Keeping the light in hand, occasionally alternating from right to left and back. Using hottest cells I currently had.

There. Temperature stabilizes to 50°C and doesn't rise from that. Ambient temperature was still 25°C. Not bad. Not at all. Smile


 

Light output measured on different modes is (OTF, after 30s):
- Considering the size of the light: Unbelievable 4750lm on High (5225lm initial)
- 3750lm, 1950lm, 850lm, and 50lm on middle modes
- 1lm on Low mode

So you can select the desired output level between 1 and about 5000 lumens. That's really useful in my books.

Measured throw was 152kcd / 780m. That's a nice figure too, isn't it? Smile

 

 

Outdoor beamshots:

All shots 2s, f5, ISO200, WB:Daylight.

Let's start with 100m shots:

 

 

Known good reference (Thrunite TN32):

 

Supbeam K60:

 

Mouse-over comparisons:

TN32 vs. K60: (mouse over for K60)


K40M vs. K60: (mouse over for K60)

 

And a bit longer range - 280m:

 

Known good reference (Thrunite TN32):

 

K60: 

 

Mouse over comparison:

TN32 vs. K60 (Mouse over for K60):

 

How about beam profiles then?

We occurred to have a misty night, so I went out to shoot some beam profiles projected in fog.

 

Some others for comparison:

X60 with 4D emitters.

 

X60M:

 

Summary: ★★★★★

Great flashlight for outdoors. Very powerful (= finally a light, which I don't feel urge to mod straight away!), but also easy to carry with you. Generous amount of light, and throws well, making it a near perfect light for most situations.

Being about as powerful as X60, but roughly "half the size, half the price", and simpler (= should be even more reliable).. Well.. I can't anything but recommend this light.

Just remember that this light is driven on same level than our usual mods are! Use the lower modes when you don't need full blast! They will provide good amount of light and longer runtimes. And do not to leave it running on turbo unattended, or it will get very hot.

 

Verdict: Highly recommended!

 

The End (pun intended):

 

Thanks for reading & watching. Hope you enjoyed the review!

And special thanks to Acebeam for providing this light for review.

=the=

 

Edited by: _the_ on 07/04/2015 - 03:00
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Great review!
That’s a keeper flashlight, it is a pity I didn’t buy it when there was a discount.

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well done review!

i was close to buy one – but now i kick myself i didn’t…

 

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Damn now you make me wanna buy that thing! Sad

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the does it again, thanks for the review Wink
Makes me want to see one with a neutral tint. (yes I’m a snob) LOL

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Gotta buy one of these bad boys, hardly bigger than my K40 and put out like 5 times the amount of light. Any deals going on for this light at the moment?

Imagine if it could be used for diving, OMG! Could extend the turbo timer because the water would keep it nice and cool!

Acebeam? Pretty please?

P.S: for the love of God would someone hurry up and organise a GB for this light!!!

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Excellent review. Thanks for producing the review and posting. A very impressive torch. Wish I had one!

 

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Very nice review!

After I bought my FF4 about 2 years ago, I found it difficult to find a better alternative, as its brightness and throw was a hard act to follow. Its only drawback, being an HID, was the lack of low lumen modes, very low “mpg” in battery consumption, etc.

Now comes this K60, approaching HID territory but with the good attributes of a led light, among others….I’m sold.

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Very creative and thorough review, not to mention those beautiful beamshots. Thank you very much the !

On the other hand, does anyone face the problem of unable to turn on the K60 after inserting the batteries carrier? Because this is what I face with my ex-K50 and I was very unhappy with this issue. Maybe those who have the K50 know what kind of problem I am talking about.

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Great review The Beer

I agree to your review, the K60 is an awesome light, the only thing I would ask AceBeam to fix is to add a small chamfer to the inside wall of the tailcap where you put your thumb to activate the light (Or just remove it completely!), as indicated in the picture (Great pics BTW!)

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Pretty surprising to see it out throwing the TN32! This light really is approaching HID territory.

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Nice review,this is the first Acebeam to make me want to part with some cash. Great beamshots and teardown thanks =the=. I was wondering is the led pcb aluminium or copper?

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amd comparison beam shots!I still can’t believe how this thing throws a wall lime a skyray but the wall keep on going and going and going,my son and I took his small sun modded with an xhp50 that was impressive than the k40 more impressive and than the x60 which kit up a hill at over 300 meters and the look on the cows faces when the light hit them I don’t know who was more shocked me or the cows lol! Does anyone know about the Acebeam x25 with the xpl yet?

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First of all, thank you everyone for the compliments!


Old Mate wrote:
I was wondering is the led pcb aluminium or copper?

Copper, with direct thermal path, just like in every higher end Acebeam light.

 

light junkie wrote:
Does anyone know about the Acebeam x25 with the xpl yet?

Do you mean T25 with XHP50? I have one of those. About 3200lm (OTF, 30s) and throws pretty well. Would be very suitable for a police or night guard.

 

Comparison to K60 (Mouse over for K60):

=the=

 

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The T25 is no slouch either! Great shots…

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The photos are very good as in all your reviews, appreciate the time you put into doing such complete review.

May I ask, there is always good weather on your night shots - do you edit the sky on pictures? Smile

Great review, I really enjoyed reading it!

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jamio wrote:

The photos are very good as in all your reviews, appreciate the time you put into doing such complete review.

May I ask, there is always good weather on your night shots - do you edit the sky on pictures? Smile

Great review, I really enjoyed reading it!

Thanks!

No, I don't edit the sky. Smile It's always good weather in Finland (or then I just happen to shoot during good weather LOL

Editing beamshots would be cheating, so I just convert them from NEF to JPEG (all photos of that set with the same settings - of course), crop if necessary, and resize.

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Hi Guys, can someone explain the below from Acebeam website re: the K60.

Also, any specials on this flash light atm?

caution:

highly recommend using unprotected high drain battery (ARC18650H-250A) which at least 20A 2500mAh, the circuit might be tripping if use protected one.

http://www.acebeam.com/acebeam-k60

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Thanks a lot for this great review!

Is there a mouseover comparison K40M vs K60 long distance? This is exactly the comparison I’m interested in.

the wrote:
Continuing to open the head: The driver is not accessible because of screws covered with strong glue:

Tinkered with the screws a while, removed the glue, and now: Continuing to open the head.

How did you remove the glue?
I have a K60 with defective driver I could probably repair or get a replacement driver for, but failed at the glued screws.
(The defect: it’s direct drive in all modes but low).
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light-wolff wrote:
Thanks a lot for this great review! Is there a mouseover comparison K40M vs K60 long distance? This is exactly the comparison I'm interested in.

Sure. Here we go: 280m beamshots:

..and same image, cropped:


light-wolff wrote:
How did you remove the glue? I have a K60 with defective driver I could probably repair or get a replacement driver for, but failed at the glued screws. (The defect: it's direct drive in all modes but low).

The answer is heat. Hot air (280°C if I remember correctly) applied directly to the glue makes it soft, after which you can press the screwdriver in.

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light-wolff wrote:
I have a K60 with defective driver I could probably repair or get a replacement driver for, but failed at the glued screws.
(The defect: it’s direct drive in all modes but low).

Is Acebeam willing to offer you replacement driver?
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bibihang wrote:
light-wolff wrote:
I have a K60 with defective driver I could probably repair or get a replacement driver for, but failed at the glued screws. (The defect: it’s direct drive in all modes but low).
Is Acebeam willing to offer you replacement driver?

I’m hoping Light-Wolff will stop back into the forum and answer this question. I’m in the market for either the AceBeam K60 or the Noctigon Meteor M43. I want to see how Acebeam handles this situation. I’m already not happy they’ve black-listed this forum due to the GB we’ve had for their lights. I certainly can understand their side of it, but this forum has been purchasing their products and writing some good reviews about their lights. Not to mention brought to their attention the charging issue with the battery carrier (or maybe forced them to fix it) In any event, no good deed seems to go unpunished.

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Richie086 wrote:
bibihang wrote:
light-wolff wrote:
I have a K60 with defective driver I could probably repair or get a replacement driver for, but failed at the glued screws. (The defect: it's direct drive in all modes but low).
Is Acebeam willing to offer you replacement driver?
I'm hoping Light-Wolff will stop back into the forum and answer this question. I'm in the market for either the AceBeam K60 or the Noctigon Meteor M43. I want to see how Acebeam handles this situation. I'm already not happy they've black-listed this forum due to the GB we've had for their lights. I certainly can understand their side of it, but this forum has been purchasing their products and writing some good reviews about their lights. Not to mention brought to their attention the charging issue with the battery carrier (or maybe forced them to fix it) In any event, no good deed seems to go unpunished.

I'd rather not continue this discussion in the review thread, but as it already started..

1. AceBeam has 24month warranty and K60 is a new light, so: Yes, they will either replace the light (their preferred solution, I guess) or send a new driver.

@Light-Wolff: I can help you to fix your light. PM me if interested. Smile

Another thing that came to my mind: I saw that kind of behaviour once - caused by magnets used as spacers in a light with magnetic control wheel. Too strong magnetic field mixed up the sensors.. (Solution was to use magnets as spacers only in the other end of the carrier)

 

2. I have heard rumors about AceBeam black-listing this forum. Did that really happen?

 

And my 2c about the battery carrier fix: Things tend to happen (very) slowly when dealing with companies from that country / region. Maybe, just maybe, we forced them to fix it too fast and that was one reason for the wrong / incomplete solution?

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Thanks for the additional photos, the difference between K40M and K60 is indeed impressive.

As for driver removal:
I tried hot air (reflow solder air gun), up to 550°C, I could poke the screwdriver in, but the screw wouldn’t move anyway. The glue didn’t become soft.

I purchased the K60 via HKE.
I suggested to HKE a driver replacement. They forwarded this to Acebeam.
But after I wrote them that I had failed in opening the driver, HKE offered that I return the light and they send it to Acebeam for repair.
Nice, but this could take 3 months altogeher. I don’t want to wait that long. So I’ll make another attempt to open it within the next few days.
I even considered to bore out the screws an then cut new threads, but because the screws got through the PCB this would also kill the vias on the screw holes through the PCB, probably a bad idea.

I’m quite sure that only the switcher FET is defective, easy to replace once the driver is out.

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the wrote:

2. I have heard rumors about AceBeam black-listing this forum. Did that really happen?

 

And my 2c about the battery carrier fix: Things tend to happen (very) slowly when dealing with companies from that country / region. Maybe, just maybe, we forced them to fix it too fast and that was one reason for the wrong / incomplete solution?


Bella doesn’t seem to reply Ronin42… M4DM4X also said that Acebeam is blacklisting all the vendors that are selling below MSRP Sad I really like their stuff. No idea why they did that considering BLF contributed greatly to their reputation and R&D

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Thanks for the replies everyone.

I believe Acebeam is willing to replace you with a new K60, but I am pretty sure they will require you to return your current K60 first and they will most probably not cover the return shipping fees, which is unfair to us.

I once received a K50 with some functionality issues and I had to pay the return shipping fees by myself to send it back. I did get full refund of the light itself though.

I too have heard stories like how Acebeam ignore and refuse to service some customers when they are not happy with these customers for some reasons, but I am not sure how true these stories are. I just kinda afraid that Acebeam will “blacklist” me all in a sudden for whatever reason it is after I have purchased their GB products. Speaking about GB, do we remember the K50 groupbuy organized by Old Lumens that dealing with Acebeam directly? While Acebeam dislikes the vendors to sell their products at below MAP, Acebeam has already done this by themselves before.

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bibihang wrote:
Thanks for the replies everyone.

I believe Acebeam is willing to replace you with a new K60, but I am pretty sure they will require you to return your current K60 first and they will most probably not cover the return shipping fees, which is unfair to us.

I once received a K50 with some functionality issues and I had to pay the return shipping fees by myself to send it back. I did get full refund of the light itself though.

I too have heard stories like how Acebeam ignore and refuse to service some customers when they are not happy with these customers for some reasons, but I am not sure how true these stories are. I just kinda afraid that Acebeam will “blacklist” me all in a sudden for whatever reason it is after I have purchased their GB products. Speaking about GB, do we remember the K50 groupbuy organized by Old Lumens that dealing with Acebeam directly? While Acebeam dislikes the vendors to sell their products at below MAP, Acebeam has already done this by themselves before.

Sounds like another typical acebeam scam scenario. File a paypal dispute immediately and escalate your claim as soon as paypal allows it. Do not cancel your PP dispute until you have received a fair solution. Now would also be a great time to file for a 100% refund to get rid of it (if you so chose) and demand that acebeam pays return shipping. Channel all your communications to acebeam through the paypal dispute system so that paypal supervisors can be made aware of the entire situation. Copy/paste your prior emails through the paypal dispute system if necessary. Acebeam should pay return shipping, repair your light and pay for its return. If they refuse, simply tell the PP supervisor that its ridiculous and unfair that you should have to pay return shipping for an expensive item that you just received and they will likely decide in your favor. If the paypal dispute ends in an email againts you, call paypal and ask to speak with a claims representative. Dont back down and state your case. As far as I am aware, I have NEVER lost a paypal dispute across many thousands of transactions. Just be truthful and factual and let the other party put their foot up their arse. Acebeam is famous for their blunders and lies and always loses.

The problem with Acebeam is that they consider any constructive criticism an insult that they just cant cope with. They would rather run and stick their heads in the sand like an ostrich, and hope it all goes away before it bites them in the ass. Even when we told them in great detail how to correct the large amount of shoddy engineering built into their products, most comments went completely ignored. This was also true throughout over 100 direct emails I sent to Bella (acebeam CS). The members of this forum have been the guinea pigs and R & D for this thankless evasive company. We pointing out the many problems with their lights and how they needed to correct them. Except for the dangerous rechargeable cell carrier problems (which apparently still remains a shitty fail today), they have done nothing to acknowledge their problems and correct them, even though others explained in great detail how to rectify their flaws!

Now for the 4th time, acebeam needs to change their company name again. Through their repeated horrendous failures as a manufacturer, FAILBEAM sounds perfect! (other 4 letter words would be far more appropriate, but I’ll leave that for others to decide).

Want to keep your light and use it? If you have one of these lights or similar, turn it off or reduce the output when the selector ring becomes too hot to hold comfortably. Hopefully this will prevent the driver and cells from frying themselves. Repeated use will eventually overheat the batteries, making them too hot to touch! Just be aware of this and use good judgement.

If you experience a failure, please let us all know in the appropriate threads so others can read before making a purchase decision… ie: throwing away good money.

Acebeam always asks us to be quiet about our broken or failed lights that they send us. DO NOT FALL FOR THAT TRICK! POST IT HERE AND ACROSS ALL APPROPRIATE THREADS SO THERE ARE NO SECRETS!

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The problem is I only realized the unable-to-turn-on issue after about 5 months of using, which was already well beyond the Paypal protection period. Sad I don't know why I didn't find it out earlier, maybe the issue only occur after some times or I didn't use it frequent enough. Anyway some people told me that I was lucky to be able to get full refund from Acebeam even just for the light itself.Undecided

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