beamshots "Lumapower" xm-l + 3x mc-e + 3x xr-e 44mm lens ...

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beamshots "Lumapower" xm-l + 3x mc-e + 3x xr-e 44mm lens ...

I made some beamshots, because I was very curious to know how perform the C8 clone lumapower mrv xm-l against my other lights.

The truth that I modified the driver of the lumapower, shorted the polarity protection diode, and got 3.5A instead of the original 2.2A.

the concrete wall is about 40m away

please don't blame my English Smile

 

control

1

 

small sun zy-c60 xr-e Q5 ~ 0.6A

2

 

 ultrafire wf501b mc-e 2.4A                  

3

 

mte ssc p7 modifed with an xm-l, OP ref and ~2.3A

mte

 

TR-1200 5xQ5

tr1200

 

3x mc-e 3x18650 ~3A

3xmc-e

 

and the lumapower xm-l ~3.5A

luma

 

+ some throwers

x2000

x2000

 

xm-l ~4A + 52mm lens

52mm

 

xr-e Q2 1.5A + 44mm lens

44m

 

3x xr-e Q2 + 3x 44mm lens

3x xr-e

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Edited by: viffer750 on 09/17/2011 - 05:11
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Is the 3x mc-e 3x18650 ~3A one you put together yourself or is this something one could buy somewhere?

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and long distance beamshots

The shutter speed was 3 sec, but the iso rating only 100, overall a little bit over exposed. (full moon's light on the background)

the church is 360m away

control

c

lumapower xm-l

lp

 

tr-1200

tr

 

x2000

x

 

xm-l 4A +52mm lens

52

 

xr-e 1.5A + 44mm lens

44

 

3x xr-e 3x 44mm lens

3x

 

 

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it's a "homemade" flashlight

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Well I'm impressed forget the shutter speed. 

How much for one like this? 

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Or for this one?  That's a bright thrower. 

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ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS wrote:

Well I'm impressed forget the shutter speed. 

How much for one like this? 

 

How would something like a Trustfire 3T6 compare to that?

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That's a good question.  I don't have one but maybe someone who does can chime in. 

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Trustfire t6

 

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Thanks for the beamshots .

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to the first post and pictures, camera settings was the following: 1sec shutter speed, and iso200

And I think my 3xmc-e light is almost the same as the new triple xm-l flashlights, trustfire sky-ray etc..., maybe a little brighter, becasue my light sucks over 3A from 3 pc 18650. I use relative old cells with this light (~150mOhm internal resistance), because of the direct drive. It could be to drive easily over 4A/emitter with newer cells, but I dont want to overstress them.

This google translate helps me alot, but I know it's not perfect. Smile

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Ok I still didn't get my questions answered.  Do you sell these lights are would you build a guy one?  If no, I understand.  Just curious.

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Nice beamshots, nice 3 x MC-E too.  Quite noticeable donut though.  Surprised that the 5 x Q5 did not throw as well....you got the more recent versions?  (only the first batch was driven aggressively)

For those who wants to buy the 100mm diameter 3 x MC-E, can try PAlight BG-03 and XTAR D31 howitzer.  Expensive though.

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Sorry, but this is a hobby for me and I do not want to sell or build more. Embarassed

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Yeah, it would be better with xm-l -or a better reflector-  but when I made this light, there was not yet only mc-e. It's a DX triple reflector SKU 11922.

 

ref

 

My tr-1200 with 2 cells goes 2.5 ampere, it's ~ 15W or more.

Earlier I made ceiling bounce test, and tr-1200 performed "35" relative value, and the C8 clone xm-l's score  was "40" at 3.5A. The throw capability is almost the same for the tr-1200 and C8 clone.

 

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viffer750 wrote:

Sorry, but this is a hobby for me and I do not want to sell or build more. Embarassed

Well if you change your mind let me know.  I would pay for a light like that if it is reasonable. 

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hi! viffer750, Could you show a picture of this flashlight? xr-e 3x 44mm lens (I'm impressed).

thanks.

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plafon wrote:

hi! viffer750, Could you show a picture of this flashlight? xr-e 3x 44mm lens (I'm impressed).

thanks.

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as you wish

3x

 

and spot size and intensity

above: x2000

left to right:

C8 clone xm-l 3.5A

tr-1200 5xQ5

xm-l 4A 52mm lens

xr-e 1.5A 44mm lens

3x xr-e 3x 44mm lens

 

spot

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Your triple Q2 aspheric seems to be able to comfortably outgun the SR90.  Do you have access to a lux meter?

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Yes, I have a cheap one from ebay, lx1010bs. I don't know how accurate this. I think it measures higher value than the real (20-30%). I have only relative peak lux values from 3 meters.

x2000 Q5 1.3A ~ 2300

C8 clone xm-l 3.5A ~ 4300

TR-1200 ~ 4300

xm-l 52mm lens ~ 8000 

xr-e 1.5A 44mm lens ~ 9200

3x xr-e 44mm lens ~ 24000

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Any info is better than no info.  BTW do you mind measuring from say at least 10m, preferably 15-20m?  What i am trying to do is to let the beam focus and smooth out, when you are farther out the hotspot peak intensity will be easier to get hold of and not only stay at a small place (it smooths out so to speak).  Also the meter sensor will not get overloaded, as you can see 24k is too much. Forget about the specs - most guys in the hobby know about the characteristics.

C8 XM-L @ 3.5 is pretty well known. XR-E @ 1.5A with a 44mm aspheric is also guessable. Yours is high but we still can make corrections and give educated somewhat accurate guesses and be around in ballpark.

Your XR-E @ 1.5A with 44mm is probably 55k region in true life (i am expecting decent heatsinking but not excellent, so you get around 1.1A-1.2A true relative performance unless you directly mount to pill). Triple XR-E aspheric is 2.6X, so you get 143k. Could be slightly higher than Olight SR90.

 

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okay, from 10m as I saw:

x2000 ~200                               @1m -30%= 14000lux         

c8 and tr-1200 both ~370            @1m -30%= 25900lux 

xr-e with 44mm lens ~810           @1m -30%= 56700lux 

3x xr-e 44mm lens ~2100            @1m -30%= 147000lux 

It's almost the same as from 3m.

These estimated values ​​are acceptable?

 

 

 

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Hi, viffer750.

You got a really nice collection.

Would it be possible to show us how did you mounted the 3*xr-e?

I would like to see it and know the distance between the dies, as I cannot figure it out.

The only multi-die I had seen with Aspheric lens are some MC-E which show clearly 4- dies on the wall, but it is not the case in your pictures.

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viffer750 wrote:

as you wish

3x

 

and spot size and intensity

above: x2000

left to right:

C8 clone xm-l 3.5A

tr-1200 5xQ5

xm-l 4A 52mm lens

xr-e 1.5A 44mm lens

3x xr-e 3x 44mm lens

 

spot

 

Smile 3 xr-e  44mm Very nice model.

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Hi,

here is the solution:

 

1

 

 hard to find the right focal point of the lenses, but much more harder focusing the 3 beams into one point, it's a nightmare. Smile

Because the lenses are put to the head, it can be fine-tune the beams, when you rotate the head:



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Haha Iove that futuristic effect.

 

Just one more question, is each of the three lenses 44mm? If so, what is the head diameter?

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Yes 44mm. But it had to grind the side of the lenses, because the head is only 82mm.

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/44mm-secondary-optics-glass-5-pack-4558

But be careful. I got in my first order almost perfect lenses, but some months later I got totally garbage lenses. 

here is the body:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/109-LED-Powerful-Bright-Light-Lamp-Torch-Flashlight-NEW-/130424562451?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item1e5de8e313

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The 109-led host is an excellent choice for a monster thrower as well.

A single, large projector lens from an automotive HID kit fits nicely in the bezel.

IIRC, the first DEFT was a similar setup.

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viffer750 wrote:

Hi,

here is the solution:

 

1

 

 hard to find the right focal point of the lenses, but much more harder focusing the 3 beams into one point, it's a nightmare. Smile

Because the lenses are put to the head, it can be fine-tune the beams, when you rotate the head:



That is impressive and inventive! Smile
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I am waiting for some new flashlights, so I should stop buying a bit till next month at least haha, but I would love to do something similar.

The best zooming I've got now is the Yezl T9 with the Ultrok x2000 big head lens (which is better than the original in the yezl), but this one looks like is far better than that in a bigger host.

Another question would be the battery/es you are using, it could be nice to do it with an 26650, which I guess could fit.