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Eagle Eyes, X6, SE body fits into Convoy S2 head and the S2 body fits on the X6 head. The S2 tailcap fits on the X6 body but X6 tailcap doesn’t work with S2 body. (similar to what hank posted earlier)
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The old style extension tube for the Convoy C8 (from Fasttech) fits onto the Jacob body however, the tailcap for the jacob is a bit weird (requires a lot of tube to go into the tailcap) so now, the Jacob has a C8 tailcap as well.

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Note here what you find does and doesn’t lego together, collect them all ….

Remember as noted above:

  • even several of the very exact same flashlight may not have interchangeable parts.

Reports are reliable only for the exact parts someone checks, not generally safe to assume true for any particular model.

My guess is Chinese budget flashlights are assembled by people reaching into a big bin’o‘parts and trying them until they find a head, body, and tailcap that all are close enough to spec to screw together and not fall apart mostly.

For any given flashlight, some parts fit tight, some are loose, some won’t fit at all, and some are just right.

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How to headswap your way to an N219 Maratac, and a Maratac clickie
Tool and Maratac, both swaps work

How to headswap your way to an N219 Thrunite, for the cost of a worm.
Worm head works on Maratac, as well as on Thrunite Ti

3 out of 4 combos work. Only the Worm body with Maratac head does not work, but I dont use the worm body anyway, it lacks reversible pocket clip.

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Cool photos. I own several of these lights, too:

Out of curiosity, what’s with all the similarities between the Maratac lights and the Lumintop lights? I know Lumintop makes the Promethus Beta QR2 I’ve got, but do they also build Maratac’s lights, too?

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emarkd wrote:
I know Lumintop makes the Promethus Beta QR2 I’ve got, but do they also build Maratac’s lights, too?

imho, yes. Based on the appearance, the Worm, Beta, Maratac, and Tool are all Lumintop.
Love your copper pic too!

Beta head also works on a Maratac and on a Thrunite
BetaTac:

BetaNite:

and ThruTac, aka MaraNite

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Huh, I’ve got a Thrunite Ti as well. Never really even tried to lego them together, although they are very similar lights.

So I’m pretty sure that Thrunite builds their own lights, so it can be safely assumed that those two lights are built by different companies even though they’re very similar. Makes me wonder even more about Maratac. I guess they could have their own production facility and just be making very similar lights to the Lumintop line. I’d love to know something definite on that.

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I dont see any reason to swap a Thrunite and a Maratac, since neither offers High CRI. fwiw, the thrunite head will not light on a worm body, but it will light on the Maratac body. The Maratac head will not light on a Thrunite body, nor on a Worm body, Maratac head lights only on a Tool.

emarkd wrote:

… wonder …about Maratac… could have their own production facility… I’d love to know something definite on that.

you could ask CountyComm
Im just stating my opinion from personal observation, nothing official
Imo yes the Thrunite Company is separate from Lumintop. And No, CountyComm is not a producer of anything, imo they are just a US company reselling Chinese imports (supposedly to the US Military). Same with darksucks.com (Prometheus Beta) they are a US company reselling chinese imports too.

Note also that Thrunite uses MUCH lower low and Medium than Maratac and Tool, plus the Thrunite mode sequence is always LMH, Thrunite is not offered in MLH sequence like the Maratac and Tool. iow, Thrunite driver is very different than Lumintop driver. Also, Thrunite driver is NoPWM, while prior to Oct2015 Maratac, Tool and Beta were all PWM driven.

Look at these LED rings on post Sept 2015 production runs of Maratac, Tool, and Worm.. identical.. to me they all come from the same Lumintop factory.

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A placeholder for khas who has big Lego news in another thread:

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Skilhunt H02 shorty

I’ve got two bare BLF A6 tubes that [lego with the Skilhunt H02]

see http://budgetlightforum.com/node/43521 for pictures, it’s around this point in the thread:
Sun, 01/17/2016 – 03:20 #184

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Anyone tried this BLF A6 Flashlight 18350 Body Extension Tube on convoy s2+? Will this fit on the s2+?

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Reminder, report what you actually know — there’s enough variation that even several samples of “exactly the same light” may not swap parts easily.
We can’t tell you what you will find out with the parts you get — not with any real assurance it will or won’t work.

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P3D wrote:
Anyone tried this BLF A6 Flashlight 18350 Body Extension Tube on convoy s2+? Will this fit on the s2+?

Nope. It doesn’t fit.

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(if you’re set to view 300 comments per page, this should work: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/40642?page=16#comment-891644

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Wrathbringer27 Wed, 02/03/2016 – 08:27

The EE A6 18350 tube fits the [Kronos stainless steel-copper] X6!


https://www.flickr.com/photos/133685732@N07/24166616614
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The bare A6 tubes that don’t work on the BLF A6 fits a Skilhunt H02 :
It also fits a Skilhunt H15 but you need a tailcap from a H02 :

In the headband :

Family foto :

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EDITED, more thorough look:

The older Solarforce chromed steel clip (meant for the Solarforce tail threads) happen to very nicely fit over the KX5 head-to-bezel thread.

This is the old “deep carry/reversible” clip that, sad to say, Solarforce no longer has for sale.
It’s chromed steel — quite thin, and only slightly thicker than the gap on my KX5 between the head and bezel.
Check yours — see if there’s a gap between bezel and head, or if the bezel screws down tight on the head

The ring of the clip can be made even thinner with a little sanding, as the chrome plating made it rough and bumpy.


(The bezel is at the bottom, then the clip, then the ribbed part of the head is at the top, in this picture)

The regular Solarforce clip sold now does not fit, it has a smaller opening and is thicker (made of aluminum)

BUT SEE the big X5/X6 thread at Mon, 02/08/2016 – 14:24 #5594
search for “reflector fitment” for a caution to check

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Head form a “old” Convoy C8 with alu pill and the tube from Olight M3XS-UT JAVELOT :

The Javelot tube is a bit longer in the treads but it works.

The led is a XHP-50 driven direct from the two batteries.

A bit more info here :

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/43980?page=8#comment-909019

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Jaxman E2



It lego’s perfectly with the Convoy S2+, including short tube:

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Battery tube extension for Convoy C8!

Today I got this from Fasttech: Extension tube for 1*18650 C8…

And it really fits my Convoy C8 (new model with Integrated pill) nearly perfect.

Physical appearence:
Threads are a perfect match and run smoothly without lubrication. The thread on the switch side is a little too long, just so much that the o-ring is not touched by the switch unit. So it’s not waterproof but electrical connection is fine. A pair of LG Hg2 flattops rattles a little, two NCR18650Bs protected just barely fit, but the contact is closed.

Optical appearence:
the knurling seems identical to the C8, but the black anodizing is a little shiny. Not as matte as the C8. And of course between extension tube and switch cap the o-ring is visible. I’ll try to add a picture, but that normally doesn’t work (‘cause I’m too stupid to add a photo?!?)

On the cellphone picture the difference is more prominent than to the naked eye!

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The Jaxman UV also legoes perfectly with the S2+
And that includes Hoop’s new copper pills for the S2+, they fit perfectly in the Jaxman UV light and I’d guess also in the E2 that 1dash1 pictures above in the thread.

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Negative report: the Cometa is supposed to be an improved Jax Z1, but the Cometa doesn’t lego with the Z1 — several things are different
per Tom E, on Mon, 05/09/2016 – 15:27
at http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/940746#comment-940746
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hank wrote:
Negative report: the Cometa is supposed to be an improved Jax Z1, but the Cometa doesn’t lego with the Z1 — several things are different
per Tom E, on Mon, 05/09/2016 – 15:27
at http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/940746#comment-940746
(link will work if you’re viewing 300 comments per page, else find it by date in that thread)

Thanks for letting everyone know. Wink

I wasn’t sure whether to wait for the problem’s to be sorted out with the Cometa and then buy one or to just buy the Jax Z1 elsewhere, I know now. Smile

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Sharpie reports at http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/950000#comment-950000 that the Cu and Al X5 and X6 light parts Lego together fine, correcting what I thought I’d read somewhere:

Quote:
They do Lego, Manker/Banggood have the pieces…

… (same applies to the X6, I forget the Astrolux name for it)

Al body, copper head, Al. Bezel, perfect combination.

Light weight, durability, tail lock out, copper for the heat.

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This — sorry to say it’s sold out — is a body-and-tailcap that was being closed out recently.
Turns out it fits the head and tailcap threads of the X5, though the threads aren’t long enough and it needs an extra retaining ring or other filler to light up.
http://www.kaidomain.com/Product/Details.S022509
http://manager.kaidomain.com/UploadFiles/635140376727690000_med.jpg
“Optiled” is the name on the tube.

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Astrolux S41 and bare BLF A6 lego perfectly fine with each other. I can interchange heads, long or short tubes and switches as I want. Both lights work in any combination!

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Copied from http://budgetlightforum.com/node/47166

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KawiBoy1428

I found a Convoy L5 extension, in my junk box and it lego’s with the Jax Z1

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I was recently made aware by a fellow member that there is actually one component of the Jaxman Z1 that will lego with the Cometa. As I received a Jaxman Z1 a couple of days ago, I can now verify the information is 100% true. The component legos perfectly… Thumbs Up

The component would be ………………………………………. the lens cap. Facepalm

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The lens swaps too. I’m actually running the Z1 lens on my Cometa, because I have the old XP-G2 de-domed pulling 5.65 amps and it boosted the LUX up a bit. They fit each other better, no moving the lens around to get it on center. Weird!

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Thumbs Up Thanks, I was unaware of that. Good info…….

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Cross-reference for discussion elsewhere (Reddit’s flashlight forum)
Reddit summaries are sometimes useful when people haven’t been ‘through the wars’ as things developed and are wondering “what legos with what”
Brief excerpt follows; more at the original page of course
https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/4jfc9f/eagle_eye_hosts/

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the Eagle Eye A6 is not the A6 in the BLF A6. BLF designed the flashlight around the EE A6 and wanted/expected it to be constructed with the EE A6. However, AFAICT, Banggood couldn’t work things out with EE fast enough and contracted with Manker to produce the host. There may have been a belief that EE and Manker used the same factory. Either way, Manker produced them and it is Manker that should be held responsible for the notable issues with the BLF (and I think Astrolux) A6. AFAIK the Eagle Eye A6 is a higher quality host. Certainly Eagle Eye X6 host doesn’t suffer the quality control issues of the BLF/Astrolux A6.

EE hosts are at: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/1735126/search?origin=y&SearchText=host

And I“m wondering if there are triple spacers and optics made or that happen to fit them.

xref for discussion at BLF: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/46245

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Astrolux SC/Ultrafire C3 SS (1st version, 93mm).

If anything can go wrong, it will.
Matter will be damaged in direct proportion to its value.

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LOL, and so it does, not very useful perhaps, but a great find! Big Smile

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