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Knowing that my King Kong 26700 5000mAh cell is most likely my strongest and certainly highest capacity, I set out to make it work in the L2 this morning. First of all, the forward clicky had to go. The actual pcb the switch is on has a white outline of a smaller Omten style switch, so I removed the clunky forward switch and put a small Omten in it’s place. Then I took the switch assembly/tail cap out to the lathe. The spacer for the switch that allows the rubber boot to interface appears to be black Delrin, so I machined that down to a wider cup to fit completely over the smaller switch, then machined off the raised top portion that fits into the boot. That allowed the switch/spacer/boot to work together at a smaller overall height. Then I machined the inside of the tail cap to allow the longer 26700 room to fit, leaving a ledge wide enough for the battery tube to still make solid ground contact and fit the same as usual.

So now I have a reverse clicky with a through pcb spring bypass that allows the King Kong 26700 to produce 6A at the tail and the light makes 1566 lumens from the XP-L HI. Poifect! :bigsmile:

As far as focus goes, I didn’t do anything different. The 20mm Noctigon is screwed to the emitter shelf, the white centering ring sits on top of the Noctigon and the reflector mates to it nicely. Beam profile is tight, I’ll get a new lux reading a bit later. Should be more than the 212Kcd previously. At any rate, I’m very pleased with it and happy to have the high capacity cell in place.

Ah! Pictures! lol, I’ve forgotten, will get on that….

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Thanks for offering such a great tailcap mod-service dale! Very generous of you!
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My Favorite Modded Lights: X6R, S8 , X2R , M6, SP03

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Dang, nice work once again Dale! 6A is pretty darn good!

Add me to that tailcap mod list Smile

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Gorgeous light, no doubt about it

Very nice design on the head, really liking the lines and mass

Anodizing is quite nice, typical of Convoy lights, and the raised blocks on the tube are great for grip… the knurling could have stood being deeper but it works anyway

THIS is how square threads should be! I like the raised rib being the same dimension as the channel, very solid. Notice the KK 26700 standing proud of the tube

A few things here. First, yes, I brain farted on the brass retaining ring and made it overly wide in the center. I cut the entire ring at 20.20mm and then enlarged the opening in the head of the light, re-cut threads to match how I had my lathe already set up instead of trying to match the existing threads. Goofed somewhere and the driver will fit through the “retaining ring” Duh! So I soldered the snot out of it. Ugly, but very functional. lol Second, the shelf surrounding the driver was anodized, as was the end of the battery tube. Huh? So I cut the ano off and cleaned it off the end of the tube with a file. I didn’t want ground to rely on the threads so now I have a solid ground through the host. Wink Sometimes I also like to solder a copper disc on top of the spring so that there is a flat large surface area for a flat top cell to make contact with. I don’t know if it helps, but it looks neat. lol

Here you can see how much I had to relieve the inside of the tail cap for the KK 26700. Critical to this was the smaller Omten switch and a reduction in the depth of the spacer between the switch and boot.

Quick and dirty, like I said…

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Nice!! I think I'd like to keep mine single cell - sure looks great this way.

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I used to like the HD2010 for a thrower in the 26650 class, this L2 is like the evolution of that light. Much better looking, much more refined, with the same diameter but considerably deeper reflector. And it’s about time! lol (I’ve got the L2 sitting beside a grey 2010 that pulls 6.49A on it’s de-domed XM-L2) The beam profile is nicer in the L2, tighter hot spot from the HI, overall nicer light by a good margin.

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When’s the second round of pics coming? Wink

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Thanks for the pics Dale. Im tempted. Did you get rid of the red barrel or something? Wink

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Well this is cool. I didn’t know about this light except I saw it online and wanted one but they were all out of stock

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The standard 97yd shot to the 55 gallon oil drum, Canon G1X ISO1600, f/5.6, 1/2 second exposure, manual settings manual focus, 2 sec timer on a tripod.

4X optical zoom (112mm equivalent)

Same camera settings, 4X Optical, white barn is 610 yds distant

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oooh I like it. Thanks for the beamshots. How about some comparison shots with other similar sized lights? (to show size of the L2)

My Favorite Modded Lights: X6R, S8 , X2R , M6, SP03

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in comparison to Yezl Y3

reflectors of Convoy L2, Yezl Y3, Convoy C8

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Thank you for the pictures of the reflectors. That adds a nice perspective.

Here is another shot of it with other known lights for size comparison.

I have to say I love the L2. Even stock it out throws almost anything I own. Thanks Dale for giving us a better idea of this light’s potential. SWEET!!!

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I got it as host only, really like it. Such a nice chunky, well built light. However, the reflector has some imperfections, little dents, not too happy about that. Still not sure what I’m going to do with it, XP-L HI, XP-G2 or even XP-E2, someone figured out a way to dedome a 219C properly?

I think I’ll play around with it today. Let you know how it goes.

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Gorgeous light, no doubt about it

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!A few things here. First, yes, I brain farted on the brass retaining ring and made it overly wide in the center. I cut the entire ring at 20.20mm and then enlarged the opening in the head of the light, re-cut threads to match how I had my lathe already set up instead of trying to match the existing threads. Goofed somewhere and the driver will fit through the “retaining ring” Duh! So I soldered the snot out of it. Ugly, but very functional. lol Second, the shelf surrounding the driver was anodized, as was the end of the battery tube. Huh? So I cut the ano off and cleaned it off the end of the tube with a file. I didn’t want ground to rely on the threads so now I have a solid ground through the host. Wink Sometimes I also like to solder a copper disc on top of the spring so that there is a flat large surface area for a flat top cell to make contact with. I don’t know if it helps, but it looks neat. lol

Quick and dirty, like I said…

Very pleased that I have ordered one. Thanks for the pictures.

To many flashlights, too many batteries. Wife is going to kill me Smile
Q8 (Still coming), S2+: 10, SRK style: 6, C8: 10, L2: 3,  L6: 2, Couri XM-L2: 1 LuckySun BLF SE: 3, EagleEye X6: 2   and lots more....

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A comparison shot of a convoy C8 and convoy l5 (/clone).

Mine came with a little damage but I’m not complaining.

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chouster wrote:
I got it as host only, really like it. Such a nice chunky, well built light. However, the reflector has some imperfections, little dents, not too happy about that. Still not sure what I’m going to do with it, XP-L HI, XP-G2 or even XP-E2, someone figured out a way to dedome a 219C properly?

I think I’ll play around with it today. Let you know how it goes.

I really like this light overall. I’m passing the info on to Simon about the little damage stuff though. Dale’s came without a switch retaining ring and yours a dented reflector? That is not cool. On happier note I can tell you with certainty that Simon will take care of it and replace any missing or damaged parts. He did confirm that the light absolutely does come with a switch retaining ring and he offered to ship one to replace it but Dale already made his own. Contact Simon and I’m sure he will replace the reflector. Mine is flawless and all should be.

Ooh and more exciting news! Simon is making a run of the double length X6 type tubes for us! I’ll let you know the details soon. They will be unbranded. :bigsmile:

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Chouster, how do you like it compared to the Y3?

My Favorite Modded Lights: X6R, S8 , X2R , M6, SP03

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J-Dub74 wrote:

Ooh and more exciting news! Simon is making a run of the double length X6 type tubes for us! I’ll let you know the details soon. They will be unbranded. :bigsmile:

Damn! I hate you! :bigsmile:
Now I have to buy another L2……..
Although, not sure about that. I absolutely want a dual cell tube but don’t really have a use for it at the moment 0:) .(the current driver wont work with 2 cells, right?)
I guess that’s part of being a flashaholic. 8)

Damn guys, help me out. What should I do with the L2 I already have and what should I do with that dual cell tube?…

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I have a second host on the way. :bigsmile:

The LD-2 from LED4Power can run the 2 cell configuration and at 6A or even more, so it’s a splendid candidate for a driver for the 2 cell L2 with an MT-G2 or XHP-70 in it. Wink Oh boy, this is gonna be fun! An LD-2 driven L2 with MT-G2, 2 cell TOO sweet! Big Smile

(perfect timing too, I only have 10 MT-G2 lights and it’s been a while since I’ve built one.)

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thijsco19 wrote:
J-Dub74 wrote:

Ooh and more exciting news! Simon is making a run of the double length X6 type tubes for us! I’ll let you know the details soon. They will be unbranded. :bigsmile:

Damn! I hate you! :bigsmile:
Now I have to buy another L2……..
Although, not sure about that. I absolutely want a dual cell tube but don’t really have a use for it at the moment 0:) .(the current driver wont work with 2 cells, right?)
I guess that’s part of being a flashaholic. 8)

Damn guys, help me out. What should I do with the L2 I already have and what should I do with that dual cell tube?…

Yeah, you’re right I should stop. It’s costing us too much money. I’ll tell Simon to cancel the tubes…

NOT!!! As my good friend Dale told me if you want the double length for looks and feel you can still run a single cell configuration with a dummy cell to bridge the gap. I may end up doing that. I’ll probably wait for the L6 for a 4 die emitter setup. I can’t get over the throw on the current L2 so I just want more power pushed through a XPL-HI emitter with the smooth reflector. My stock L2 hangs really well against almost all my modded lights. I think I’m in love. Love

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@J-Dub74

Thanks man. I ordered the host from Simon, but that one is still on it’s way. The one I received is the one I ordered a few days later from Banggood. Contacted their CS about it, sent some pictures their way.

@PD68

In terms of build quality, it’s much better than the Yezl. Also in terms of heat transfer. The Yezl has it’s fins on the head, but the LED and the driver sit in the middle part. The Convoy is much heavier and feels much beefier. Yezl has side switch plus reverse tail clicky, Convoy has forward tail clicky, no e-switch, what I personally prefer in that kind of light (with the Yezl that e-switch doesn’t bother me, because I have a LD1 in there and don’t have to change grip to switch modes). Also the threads on my Yezl are really not that great, especially the none-anodized ones between battery tube and middle part, no comparison to the ones on the Convoy, which are very nice thick square-cut threads, that came lubed and feel great. The only threads I don’t really like on the Convoy are the driver retaining ring threads and the driver retaining ring itself. Threads on it are thin and the ring itself is also too thin for my taste, seems fragile to me. Had Convoy C8 driver retaining threads and ring ruined lately, also very thin ring with very little threading on it. The ring from the Convoy L2 at least is made out of brass and doesn’t appear to be that fragile.


As long as it works it’s not a real critique, it’s more of a suggestion for improvement.

Yeah, I think with the reflector I may had bad luck. I’d recommend buying this light, it’s great, and I’d recommend buying it from Simon.

I put a XP-L HI on sinkpad in there together with a FET-driver with guppydrv, that I had lying aroung, wanted to do it quick without any fine adjustments, and than see how the beam looks like and if I have to raise the emitter or so. So yeah, now there’s a XP-L HI in there, just used the spacer for XM-L2 that came along with it. Hotspot is very tight and there’s a corona that’s quite big, but not ugly, I like it.

Since my Yezl and L2 have the same XP-L HI, they should be quite comparable, although the Yezl has the 5A-LD1-driver whereas the L2 has a DD/FET-driver. I’m going to do some beamshots as soon as I can.

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XP-L HI works really well in the L2

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That’s it.
Going to put a XP-L HI and fet +1 driver in there.
I have some reverse clicky’s on order so when they arrive I try to put one in the L2.

Does anyone know of a driver that has a input voltage for 1 *and *2 cells and an amperage of around 4 – 5A? (for single 3v emitter use)
Really want to use this light as a thrower with 2 or 1 cell.

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Surprisingly, my L2 host showed up today Smile, along with a Blue S2+ host and the blue and red shorty tubes Smile. Tracking # never worked. Wow, the L2 is a beauty. Also got in the supposed XP-L V6 0D LED's from FastTech.

I was curious about the reflector size (width) - it's 54 mm I.D. compared to 51.5 mm I.D. of an HD 2010, plus of course the obvious larger depth.

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Thanks for all the pictures. My L2 host arrived and thought it would help to add some more pictures and possibly some info.

I marked the reflector to see if it contacted the head in an area besides the top rim where it rests. As you can see, only minor contact on the second “shelf” up.
Also the host came with the ring, spring, screws, and 18650 spacers in a bag.



Wow, this is a large tailcap.

A whole lot of bezel

I got another one coming destined for a double length tube.
Thanks for any help.

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I want one… but it looks too short for what I want. I think pictures I saw elswhere looked bigger. I prefer something the size of maglight 3 D for stashing in the seat pouch of my truck So it’s easy to grab when I need. Anything smaller and I tend to lose it. lol

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For accuracy, it wasn’t the switch retaining ring that was missing in my host kit, it was the driver retaining ring. The switch was installed in the tail cap on mine with only the 2 “flower” 18650 adapter’s being loose in the tube. The centering ring, spring, and 2 screws were in a small ziploc bag inside the tube.

See this shot from Inkidu? The black ano around the driver bay? Why did they kill electrical conductivity in this area? My battery tube had anodized threads on one end, bare threads on the other. But the bare threads had ano on the end of the tube where it would hit this ano around the driver… this would mean that only the threads would conduct the ground through the host. I fixed that on mine, but it’s definitely something that should be addressed in my opinion. Lockout can come from the switch/tail cap if that’s necessary, hence the anodized threads on that end of the tube.

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I might have missed this piece of information, but is it possible to make new L2 that is in the making to be wide enough to take 3 or 4 AA batteries in carrier?

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Doesn’t look like it veer, the walls would be too thin if it was bored out that much.

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