Is there a more budget version of this light?

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I know it's only 30 bucks but still seems like a lot for a single AAA light. Is there anything with similar size, specs, modes, brightness, same type of battery etc... for less money? Or is this a pretty unique combination of features and performance for a tiny single AAA light?

Titanium Innovations Illuminati CA1-AL LED Flashlight with Cree XP-G R5 LED, 1xAAA, 115 Lumens!

  • Material: Aluminum Alloy- Hard Anodized Black
  • LED: Cree XP-G R5 (1B)
  • Battery: 1 x AAA (lithium, NiMh, or alkaline) (We do not recommend or warrant using lithium ion rechargeable batteries)
  • Reflector: Textured Aluminum Alloy
  • Operating Voltage: 0.9-3V
  • 3 Output Levels
    • Low: 3 Lumens (30+ hours)
    • Medium: 30 Lumens (4+ hours)
    • High: 115 Lumens (90+ minutes)
  • Length: 2.66" (67.6mm)
  • Diameter: 0.54" (13.7mm)
  • Weight: 0.49oz (14g)

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You could go for the Olight i3 EOS Cree R5 $23.95

ITP A3 EOS 3 Modes Cree Q5 LED Mini Keychain Flashlight $20.50

Both lights are made by the same company Olight

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The ITP A3, Olight i3, Preon, Maratac AA and Illuminati is basically the same driver, but in different housing. They have also been made with different leds.

Check my website for roundup and beamshot comparisons of many AAA lights. I have not included the Illuminati Al and the i3, yet, but I have them and will include them in the next AAA beamshot.

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Nice tip how2, thanks! You got me interested in the new Olights. Anybody have the new Olight i3 or i2 that they can compare to an ITP A3 or A2? I definitely like the upgraded emitter and tailstanding capability of the Olight redesign.

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Thanks. I had actually seen those but the specs, performance, battery life, seemed better on the Titanium Innovations.

Here are the specs from the one I posted:

3 Output Levels

  • Low: 3 Lumens (30+ hours)
  • Medium: 30 Lumens (4+ hours)
  • High: 115 Lumens (90+ minutes)

And here are the ones from the Olight and ITP

Olight: Three output level : Low-Medium-High; Low 2.5 Lm (20hrs) - Med 20 Lm (1hr30mins) - High 70 Lm (40mins)

ITP : Upgrade Edition: Three output levels - Low 1.8 lumens (50 hours) -> Medium 22 lumens (4 hours) -> High 96 lumens (55 minutes)

Seems like the TI has a much longer battery life and is brighter. Are the specs misleading or inaccurate and they are all pretty much the same or is the TI's performance and battery life really somehow better?

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I just got an Olight i2 last week, Very nice light, looks like the bigger AA battery brother of the iTp A3.

No complaints so far, but I wish you could run it on 14500 batteries.

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Different led will give different output, i.e. a R5 led gives much more light than a Q5 led with the same power consumption. There is also differences between the program in the microprocessor: different pwm frequency, different low and medium levels and hidden modes on Preon.

In this beamshot I have 3 of them included, you can see different maximum output depending on led bin and different throw depending on led type (I used the titanium models, but it is the same for the aluminium models):


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So it is possible that based on the things you mentioned, the TI might really be brighter and have a longer battery life than the other two?

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It uses the R5, the other uses a lower bin led, so the Illuminati will be a bit brighter, but the large difference in specifications are probably due to different way to measure things. The driver used in these lights does not stabilize light output, it will change with battery voltage, this opens for many ways to measure the specifications.

A fresh 1.5 volt lithium battery with lumen measured when the light is turned on will give a much higher value than a alkaline measured 2 minutes after turn on.

And is runtime measured to 50% or 10% brightness and from what starting point?

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Ok, so if I'm noticing right, the Olight also uses an R5 so am I correct in thinking that that one would be the closest in specs compared to the TI? The TI comes with a lithium battery as opposed to the Olight which looks like it comes with an alkaline. Could this be the reason for the difference in rated specs? Also, do you think that with either the olight or the ITP if I ran them with a lithium battery I'd get similar performance to the TI?

And sorry if my questions might seem a little redundant but I'm completely new to this and I'm still trying to wrap my head around all of this stuff.

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ITP replaced the Q5s with R5s a while ago so there's a fair chance any new ones will be R5s even if the retailer says it's a Q5 as several people have found. Then again there is one retailer who's selling both ....

BTW if you compare the specs of the ITP A3 R5 and the Olight I3 I believe you'll find the Olight specs are lower/worse. It's generally believed this isn't because Olight changed anything in the driver but simply because with the Olight they follow ANSI but didn't with the ITP specs (well they probably couldn't because it didn't come with a battery). http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?319539-Olight-EOS-series-%28i1-i2-i3%29 http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?254660-GoingGear.com-New-iTP-replacements-from-Olight-i1-i2-i3-EOS-amp-i6-Paladin/page2

I'm not sure if TI is rated according to ANSI but if it is, then it should use the battery it comes with and the Energizer lithium primary will definitely do better then the Duracell alkaline primary the Olight comes with

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With both using R5, they will be very close in specifications. Using a lithium for measuring will give a brighter light and longer runtime.

If they follow the ANSI/FL1 they must measurement with the supplied battery. If no battery is supplied the specifications must be with the recommended battery.