In-depth vid review: Manker Quinlan T01 Compact Thrower (XP-L HI | 1 x AA / 14500)

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In-depth vid review: Manker Quinlan T01 Compact Thrower (XP-L HI | 1 x AA / 14500)

Wow! What a great little thrower with flexible battery options. LOTS of material covered in my in-depth review of this light including throw measurements with my new Sper Scientific NIST calibrated light meter. More written material to come but hit up this vid for now: 

  

SPECS

T01_Specs

 

 

UI - GENERAL & PRO MODES

T01_Modes

 

 

 

THROW SUMMARY

ThrowSummarySpecs

ThrowSummary

 

STANDBY DRAIN

StandByDuration

The standby drain with NiMh is so miniscule at  6μso as to be truly inconsequential. With a LiIon cell, it's slightly more @ 18.4μbut again just as inconsequential. 

 

RUNTIME

T01_RT_Chart

 

UPDATE 5/20: Manker disclosed that there is a hidden Engineering Mode that one can use to help match the Vf of the LED so as to prevent the pre-flash issues that occur on some units. Here's a vid on how to access that mode on the T01 as well as U11:

 

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Disclosure: T01 provided by Manker for review.

Edited by: turboBB on 05/20/2016 - 00:58
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Hum…500 lumens for 1 hour sustained and no step down on one eneloop?

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http://budgetlightforum.com/node/24847
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On Eneloop XX and yeah reasonably "sustained". Doesn't get all that hot either, great efficient circuit in there.

EDIT: The factory specs/UI modes added along with charts of various measurements I recorded.

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Good review man although the explanation on the XP-L stuffs and naming of the other flashlights could be skipped/speeded to reduce the review time.

Now to the thing that leaves me perplexed. Why has it to be ‘manker’ and no other big names (excluding zebralight) to come with a 500 lumens 1AA flashlight?

To me it really looks like a copy of the ZL. Not that I mind but I find the head bulky and I dont really like throwy lights in this category. If only Manker would make a Neutral tint AND a flood model, I would be in for one. As it stands, throw + cool emitter bulky head, I’ll pass.

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http://budgetlightforum.com/node/24847
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http://budgetlightforum.com/node/11324?page=2#comment-254983

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Can you guess at the tint? Is it the typical 1A cool white?

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@MountainKing - thx, I cater to a broad range of viewers so usually take time to explain things but I'll separate that out into primer vids in the future. Appreciate the constructive feedback!

I'm sure other mfg's will be out with similar models soon enough. Have been waiting for an heir to the XR-E's of yore and can finally say it's here! Will pass on your suggestions to Manker.

@1dash1 - I'd say my particular sample is right around there but closer to the lower left of 1A on the ANSI White chart. It's definitely a cool tint with a very light purplish tinge to the hotspot.

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Thanks!

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TurboBB,

If you programmed the modes you wanted in pro mode, if you switch back to gerneral mode; will the programmed mode carry over to the general mode?

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@dG2K2 - Yes and vice versa.

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G'Day turboBB,  Smile

 

Greatly enjoyed review with a lot of Valuable info.

 

Thank you Very Much,

George

 

Edit:

Pity about the battery length limitation

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OMG is this review a lot of data!

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@keengeorge - You're welcome! I've suggested to Manker to make tube ~1-2mm longer to account for longer batteries.

@Ronin42 - but we like that don't we? I'm a data geek at heart... ^_^

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I’ve seen it for $70 or so on amazon and ebay….. it’s right up there with the zebralight, so I’ll stick with a zebra until I can get this for $35 or so.

Any price comments?

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I can’t believe I ate the whole thing. I mean I can’t believe I watched the whole thing! A 47 min light review. Must have been something in there that kept my interest. Well done! Great light. Not sure why I haven’t purchased one yet. This video alone is a strong selling point. Yes, it’s nice looking, great UI/programmable, king of the AA lights, etc….. but ultimately just another light that does what my other 60+ already do – shine light. I suppose if I got rid of my computer/internet I wouldn’t buy any more lights :bigsmile:

this one is beckoning strongly.

thanks for an amazing review turboBB. That’s one NICE test room you have there!

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@wishiwereaskibum - in case you didn't see M4D M4X's thread, apparently he's able to get these at a pretty decent price (I'm not related to him nor do I make any referrals off this, just passing along as PSA).

@saypat - Thx! It's really important that I'm able to reproduce the results consistently so I'm very happy I have this space in the attic for that. I'll be putting anno's in my vid's from now for easier navigation between the sections.

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From the figure but I didn’t see 500 lm for one hour with one Emerlop AA. The figure shows it lasted less than 30 minutes from 500 lm to 200 lm. (The dark purple curve). This is more reasonable by simple math.
Considering the flashlight loss and according to XP-L Hi spec., it probably take 1.5A at 3v. Assume the average voltage of the Enerlop is 1.25v, the time it can last is equal to (1.25*2.5/1.5/3) x efficiency = 0.694 x efficiency (hours). Lasting 0.5 hours corresponds to efficiency of 72%. I think it is pretty good for such 1.2 to 3.x v converter.
Did I missed anything?

MountainKing wrote:
Hum…500 lumens for 1 hour sustained and no step down on one eneloop?

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@twinclouds - the mfg quote of 1hr is for the non- Constant Current run (the dark purple curve with a step down). I my reply to MK, I missed the "no step down" part of his comment and only focused on the sustained part.

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I see. That makes sense to me now. Thanks for your clarification.
Another question I want to ask is: From your experience, how accurate are the Cree’s specs? As discussed previously, it appears to me that XP-L V5 is not as bright as XM-L2 U3, but it was list slightly higher than the latter in the spec. The bin number V5 and U3 are misleading also.

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@twinclouds – the mfg quote of 1hr is for the non- Constant Current run (the dark purple curve with a step down). I my reply to MK, I missed the “no step down” part of his comment and only focused on the sustained part.

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twinclouds wrote:
From your experience, how accurate are the Cree's specs? As discussed previously, it appears to me that XP-L V5 is not as bright as XM-L2 U3, but it was list slightly higher than the latter in the spec. The bin number V5 and U3 are misleading also.

Sorry I've not specifically tested any lights with the two emitters you mentioned (nor am I in the habit of testing bare emitters) but based on the lights I've tested, I'd say they're reasonably accurate (of course take this with grain of salt since I don't have a professional IS but I'm reasonably confident with consistency of my PVC LMD). I think we need to keep in mind that Cree's specs are under optimal conditions (think stable power supply with sufficient heat sinking) and under those scenarios and based on what I've see of the tests some folks have conducted here, I've no reason to doubt the accuracy of their bare emitter claims.

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Hello great review, I have a question about the programmable mode.

When your on the programmable side does it remember (memory) the blinky section ?

Can I be in programmed Medium and double click to the Turbo (without step down). And the double click back to Level 2 ???

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Thx Chad and no, it will not memorize any of the blinkies or the CC Turbo mode.

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Still sounds like a great little AA light. I was hoping I could jump back and forth without having to cycle other modes.

BG has black and white, both in US warehouse. I cant decide on color…..

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I think they both look great but as per my feedback to them, it'd be neat if they came out with contrasting color variations like Olight's S1 line. Given most of my lights are Black, I do like this particular raw color.

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Would be great if Manker made a AA extension tube for 2 AA’s

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Have you tested the current drawn from NiMh AA to produce 500 lm? If the LED takes current of 1.5A at 3v, which is necessary to produce 500lm according to the spec, the current drawn from the AA should be 1.5A*3V/1.25V/efficiency. Assuming efficiency is equal to 0.7, the current will be >5A. Their boost driver must be very powerful and efficient. I am wondering if it is possible to get such a driver anywhere on the market.

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@twinclouds - Using the standard leads of my Fluke 289, current was ~2A with Eneloop XX; of course, there can be a bit of resistance like this. It'd likely be higher with thicker wires.

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I can't believe I ate the whole thing. I mean I can't believe I watched the whole thing! A 47 min light review. Must have been something in there that kept my interest. Well done! Great light. Not sure why I haven't purchased one yet. This video alone is a strong selling point. Yes, it's nice looking, great UI/programmable, king of the AA lights, etc..... but ultimately just another light that does what my other 60+ already do - shine light. I suppose if I got rid of my computer/internet I wouldn't buy any more lights :bigsmile: this one is beckoning strongly. thanks for an amazing review turboBB. That's one NICE test room you have there!

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Thanks. However, if this is the case, how it can generate 500lm? Unless the current is much higher without the multimeter. Still, in that case I really double it can produce 500 lm.

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@twinclouds – Using the standard leads of my Fluke 289, current was ~2A with Eneloop XX; of course, there can be a bit of resistance like this. It’d likely be higher with thicker wires.

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Gotta keep in mind that ANSI FL1 only calls for max measurement between 30sec and 2 minutes. I don't doubt it achieved 500lms, just not sustained. Based on this standard, even if it only hit 500lms for a fraction of a second and if that's what they achieved from an average of three samples, then that's what they can quote.

I know how we love to bash Chinese lumens but keep in mind SureFire was one of the mfg that helped come up with the ANSI FL1 standard and they don't measure their lights any differently.

As per my Runtime chart, I achieved 493 "lms" measured at 30 seconds on my PVC LMD (however it was still dropping after 30 seconds). It's no integrating sphere of course but I've been pretty happy with the results especially in comparison to other measurements I've seen for this contraption.

Again keep in mind that mfg specs are typically produced under the best conditions (just like the original EPA testing for automobile mpg before it was revised). They also don't provide the ambient temperature or age of the battery (for rechargeable's) which can have a huge impact on this type of testing. 

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I agree with you that under the best conditions, these specs could be met. So they are not being dishonest but still not telling the whole truth.

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Bingo. While the ANSI FL1 was a step in the right direction to help standardize flashlight specs, they are not perfect. IMO, the Runtime Chart is more valuable in helping one determine the true performance of a light. SureFire claimed 400lms for their M3LT (last SF light I tested) and they are generally respected for being honest about their claims but just look at that runtime chart: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/7639

Sure it's 400lms but not for a meaningful amount of time. 

I feel that all mfg's should start publishing runtime charts for their lights. This would leave no doubt as to the true performance above and beyond the published specs.

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